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CO2 and Deforestation: Back of the envelope calculation.
Back of the envelope cutting TREES and CO2
=== http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/gl.../deforest.html 40 million acres per year. Trees destroyed each YEAR! CO2 stored per acre per year: 3.67 metric tons CO2 . Calculation of CO2 in atmosphere. http://micpohling.wordpress.com/2007...he-atmosphere/ 1750-1960 Produced 1190 million tons CO2 per year into atmosphere. From 1960 to 2007 produced 12,127 million tons per year. For drill we will assume that trees are on average 50 years old and all CO2 stored in trees ends up being freed by burning, decay etc. 40 x 3.67 x 50 = 7140 million tons of CO2 EACH YEAR produced by Forest destruction! Note that this is 60% of the CO2 increase that is being claimed as ONLY due to fossil fuels. And there is one more thing: The trees cut down are no longer sucking up CO2 so their YEARLY UPTAKE must be ADDED to the total which is another 150 million tons per year. The point of this exercise is not to produce an exact theory of CO2 and deforestation but simply to do a quick calculation to show that deforestation is likely a MAJOR cause if not THE major cause of the alarming, dramatic and accelerating CO2 levels in the atmosphere that is being attributed to fossil fuel use. I’d say we are damn lucky CO2 does NOT cause “global warming”! |
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CO2 and Deforestation: Back of the envelope calculation.
On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 14:07:28 -0400, bjacoby
wrote: I’d say we are damn lucky CO2 does NOT cause “global warming”! http://www.nature.com/nature/journal.../410355a0.html Increases in greenhouse forcing inferred from the outgoing longwave radiation spectra of the Earth in 1970 and 1997 John E. Harries, Helen E. Brindley, Pretty J. Sagoo & Richard J. Bantges Space and Atmospheric Physics Group, Blackett Laboratory, Imperial College, London SW7 2BW, UK Correspondence to: John E. Harries. Correspondence and requests for materials should be addressed to J.E.H. (e-mail: Email: ). The evolution of the Earth's climate has been extensively studied (1, 2), and a strong link between increases in surface temperatures and greenhouse gases has been established (3, 4). But this relationship is complicated by several feedback processes--- most importantly the hydrological cycle--- that are not well understood (5, 6, 7). Changes in the Earth's greenhouse effect can be detected from variations in the spectrum of outgoing longwave radiation (8, 9, 10), which is a measure of how the Earth cools to space and carries the imprint of the gases that are responsible for the greenhouse effect (11, 12, 13). Here we analyse the difference between the spectra of the outgoing longwave radiation of the Earth as measured by orbiting spacecraft in 1970 and 1997. We find differences in the spectra that point to long-term changes in atmospheric CH4, CO2 and O3 as well as CFC-11 and CFC-12. Our results provide direct experimental evidence for a significant increase in the Earth's greenhouse effect that is consistent with concerns over radiative forcing of climate. Global, Regional, and National Fossil-Fuel CO2 Emissions http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/emis/overview_2006.html Stable isotope ratio mass spectrometry in global climate change research http://www.bgc.mpg.de/service/iso_ga...PG_WB_IJMS.pdf Global oceanic and land biotic carbon sinks http://bluemoon.ucsd.edu/publication...eeling2006.pdf Measurements of the Radiative Surface Forcing of Climate http://ams.confex.com/ams/Annual2006...per_100737.htm How do we know more CO2 is causing warming? http://www.skepticalscience.com/empi...use-effect.htm Changes in Atmospheric Constituents and in Radiative Forcing http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-re...1-chapter2.pdf NOAA: Past Decade Warmest on Record According to Scientists in 48 Countries; Earth has been growing warmer for more than fifty years http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories...heclimate.html Scientific Evidence - Increasing Temperatures & Greenhouse Gases http://www.whrc.org/resources/primer_fundamentals.html The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect http://www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm "Attribution of the present-day total greenhouse effect" http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2010/...idt_etal_1.pdf "Infrared radiation and planetary temperature" http://ptonline.aip.org/journals/doc...s_1/33_1.shtml http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~rtp1/pap...odayRT2011.pdf "Te - the surface temperature of the earth if there were no atmosphere, is known as the effective emission temperature. It is determined solely by the insolation and the planetary albedo. On Earth, Te is much colder than the observed global-mean surface temperature of 15C or 288 K. The difference must be due to the atmosphere. The warming effect of the atmosphere, known as the greenhouse effect, is best understood as follows. The atmosphere is opaque in the infrared, which means that the mean emission level is lifted off the ground. The mean temperature at the emission level (i.e. the mean brightness temperature) must be Te in order for emission to match absorbed insolation. But the atmosphere has a positive lapse rate, and so the temperature at the ground must be greater than Te." Wow! Taken from the excellent free lecture notes on Physical Meteorology, Page 132. http://mathsci.ucd.ie/met/msc/PhysMe...tLectNotes.pdf The History of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide on Earth http://www.planetforlife.com/co2history/index.html "Proof of the Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect:" http://arxiv.org/abs/0802.4324 Infrared Radiation and Planetary Temperature http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~rtp1/pap...odayRT2011.pdf Attribution of the present-day total greenhouse effect http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2010/...idt_etal_1.pdf Scientific Evidence - Increasing Temperatures & Greenhouse Gases http://www.whrc.org/resources/primer_fundamentals.html Actual Calculations: The Physical Chemistry of Climate Change (Fritz Franzen) http://edu-observatory.org/Franzen/index.html The radiative forcings give a decent picture of why the earth is globally warming. As you can see there are many contributors to the radiative forcing, with human generated CO2 leading the way. http://edu-observatory.org/olli/IPCC_SPM.2.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rcings.svg.png -- REALITY NEEDS ALLIES! "RESPECT ARE - COUNTRY SPEAK ENGLISH" --- sign at a "tea party" rally |
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CO2 and Deforestation: Back of the envelope calculation.
On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 16:32:10 -0600, Desertphile
wrote: On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 14:07:28 -0400, bjacoby wrote: I’d say we are damn lucky CO2 does NOT cause “global warming”! http://www.nature.com/nature/journal.../410355a0.html Increases in greenhouse forcing inferred from the outgoing longwave radiation spectra of the Earth in 1970 and 1997 John E. Harries, Helen E. Brindley, Pretty J. Sagoo & Richard J. Bantges Space and Atmospheric Physics Group, Blackett Laboratory, Imperial College, London SW7 2BW, UK Correspondence to: John E. Harries. Correspondence and requests for materials should be addressed to J.E.H. (e-mail: Email: ). The evolution of the Earth's climate has been extensively studied (1, 2), and a strong link between increases in surface temperatures and greenhouse gases has been established (3, 4). But this relationship is complicated by several feedback processes--- most importantly the hydrological cycle--- that are not well understood (5, 6, 7). Changes in the Earth's greenhouse effect can be detected from variations in the spectrum of outgoing longwave radiation (8, 9, 10), which is a measure of how the Earth cools to space and carries the imprint of the gases that are responsible for the greenhouse effect (11, 12, 13). Here we analyse the difference between the spectra of the outgoing longwave radiation of the Earth as measured by orbiting spacecraft in 1970 and 1997. We find differences in the spectra that point to long-term changes in atmospheric CH4, CO2 and O3 as well as CFC-11 and CFC-12. Our results provide direct experimental evidence for a significant increase in the Earth's greenhouse effect that is consistent with concerns over radiative forcing of climate. Global, Regional, and National Fossil-Fuel CO2 Emissions http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/emis/overview_2006.html Stable isotope ratio mass spectrometry in global climate change research http://www.bgc.mpg.de/service/iso_ga...PG_WB_IJMS.pdf Global oceanic and land biotic carbon sinks http://bluemoon.ucsd.edu/publication...eeling2006.pdf Measurements of the Radiative Surface Forcing of Climate http://ams.confex.com/ams/Annual2006...per_100737.htm How do we know more CO2 is causing warming? http://www.skepticalscience.com/empi...use-effect.htm Changes in Atmospheric Constituents and in Radiative Forcing http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-re...1-chapter2.pdf NOAA: Past Decade Warmest on Record According to Scientists in 48 Countries; Earth has been growing warmer for more than fifty years http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories...heclimate.html Scientific Evidence - Increasing Temperatures & Greenhouse Gases http://www.whrc.org/resources/primer_fundamentals.html The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect http://www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm "Attribution of the present-day total greenhouse effect" http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2010/...idt_etal_1.pdf "Infrared radiation and planetary temperature" http://ptonline.aip.org/journals/doc...s_1/33_1.shtml http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~rtp1/pap...odayRT2011.pdf "Te - the surface temperature of the earth if there were no atmosphere, is known as the effective emission temperature. It is determined solely by the insolation and the planetary albedo. On Earth, Te is much colder than the observed global-mean surface temperature of 15C or 288 K. The difference must be due to the atmosphere. The warming effect of the atmosphere, known as the greenhouse effect, is best understood as follows. The atmosphere is opaque in the infrared, which means that the mean emission level is lifted off the ground. The mean temperature at the emission level (i.e. the mean brightness temperature) must be Te in order for emission to match absorbed insolation. But the atmosphere has a positive lapse rate, and so the temperature at the ground must be greater than Te." Wow! Taken from the excellent free lecture notes on Physical Meteorology, Page 132. http://mathsci.ucd.ie/met/msc/PhysMe...tLectNotes.pdf The History of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide on Earth http://www.planetforlife.com/co2history/index.html "Proof of the Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect:" http://arxiv.org/abs/0802.4324 Infrared Radiation and Planetary Temperature http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~rtp1/pap...odayRT2011.pdf Attribution of the present-day total greenhouse effect http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2010/...idt_etal_1.pdf Scientific Evidence - Increasing Temperatures & Greenhouse Gases http://www.whrc.org/resources/primer_fundamentals.html Actual Calculations: The Physical Chemistry of Climate Change (Fritz Franzen) http://edu-observatory.org/Franzen/index.html The radiative forcings give a decent picture of why the earth is globally warming. As you can see there are many contributors to the radiative forcing, with human generated CO2 leading the way. http://edu-observatory.org/olli/IPCC_SPM.2.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rcings.svg.png Not even a "thank you" from the alarmist. -- "RESPECT ARE - COUNTRY SPEAK ENGLISH" --- sign at a "tea party" rally |
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CO2 and Deforestation: Back of the envelope calculation.
On Jul 4, 11:07*am, bjacoby wrote:
Back of the envelope cutting TREES and CO2 ===http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange2/current/lectures/defo... 40 million acres per year. Trees destroyed each YEAR! CO2 stored per acre per year: 3.67 metric tons CO2 . Calculation of CO2 in atmosphere. http://micpohling.wordpress.com/2007...h-co2-by-weigh... 1750-1960 *Produced *1190 million tons CO2 per year into atmosphere. *From 1960 to 2007 produced 12,127 million tons per year. For drill we will assume that trees are on average 50 years old and all CO2 stored in trees ends up being freed by burning, decay etc. 40 x 3.67 x 50 = *7140 million tons of CO2 EACH YEAR produced by Forest destruction! Note that this is 60% of the CO2 increase that is being claimed as ONLY due to fossil fuels. And there is one more thing: The trees cut down are no longer sucking up CO2 so their YEARLY UPTAKE must be ADDED to the total which is another 150 million tons per year. The point of this exercise is not to produce an exact theory of CO2 and deforestation but simply to do a quick calculation to show that deforestation is likely a MAJOR cause if not THE major cause of the alarming, dramatic and accelerating CO2 levels in the atmosphere that is being attributed to fossil fuel use. I’d say we are damn lucky CO2 does NOT cause “global warming”! Which fossil fuels (aka hydrocarbons) do not consume atmosphere? Which hydrocarbons w/atmosphere are not negative energy? Assuming Earth was chemically and thermal-dynamically balanced before modern humans ever came along, and if we modern humans contribute 70 TW/hr, where's the problem in figuring out this GW/AGW thing? http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” |
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CO2 and Deforestation: Back of the envelope calculation.
On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 15:42:16 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth
wrote: On Jul 4, 11:07*am, bjacoby wrote: Back of the envelope cutting TREES and CO2 ===http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange2/current/lectures/defo... 40 million acres per year. Trees destroyed each YEAR! CO2 stored per acre per year: 3.67 metric tons CO2 . Calculation of CO2 in atmosphere. http://micpohling.wordpress.com/2007...h-co2-by-weigh... 1750-1960 *Produced *1190 million tons CO2 per year into atmosphere. *From 1960 to 2007 produced 12,127 million tons per year. For drill we will assume that trees are on average 50 years old and all CO2 stored in trees ends up being freed by burning, decay etc. 40 x 3.67 x 50 = *7140 million tons of CO2 EACH YEAR produced by Forest destruction! Note that this is 60% of the CO2 increase that is being claimed as ONLY due to fossil fuels. And there is one more thing: The trees cut down are no longer sucking up CO2 so their YEARLY UPTAKE must be ADDED to the total which is another 150 million tons per year. The point of this exercise is not to produce an exact theory of CO2 and deforestation but simply to do a quick calculation to show that deforestation is likely a MAJOR cause if not THE major cause of the alarming, dramatic and accelerating CO2 levels in the atmosphere that is being attributed to fossil fuel use. I’d say we are damn lucky CO2 does NOT cause “global warming”! Which fossil fuels (aka hydrocarbons) do not consume atmosphere? Which hydrocarbons w/atmosphere are not negative energy? Assuming Earth was chemically and thermal-dynamically balanced before modern humans ever came along, and if we modern humans contribute 70 TW/hr, where's the problem in figuring out this GW/AGW thing? It isn't a problem of figuring out the effects: it's a problem of rejecting the facts and evidence. http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” -- "RESPECT ARE - COUNTRY SPEAK ENGLISH" --- sign at a "tea party" rally |
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CO2 and Deforestation: Back of the envelope calculation.
On Jul 5, 7:56*am, Desertphile wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 15:42:16 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: On Jul 4, 11:07*am, bjacoby wrote: Back of the envelope cutting TREES and CO2 ===http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange2/current/lectures/defo... 40 million acres per year. Trees destroyed each YEAR! CO2 stored per acre per year: 3.67 metric tons CO2 . Calculation of CO2 in atmosphere. http://micpohling.wordpress.com/2007...h-co2-by-weigh.... 1750-1960 *Produced *1190 million tons CO2 per year into atmosphere. *From 1960 to 2007 produced 12,127 million tons per year. For drill we will assume that trees are on average 50 years old and all CO2 stored in trees ends up being freed by burning, decay etc. 40 x 3.67 x 50 = *7140 million tons of CO2 EACH YEAR produced by Forest destruction! Note that this is 60% of the CO2 increase that is being claimed as ONLY due to fossil fuels. And there is one more thing: The trees cut down are no longer sucking up CO2 so their YEARLY UPTAKE must be ADDED to the total which is another 150 million tons per year. The point of this exercise is not to produce an exact theory of CO2 and deforestation but simply to do a quick calculation to show that deforestation is likely a MAJOR cause if not THE major cause of the alarming, dramatic and accelerating CO2 levels in the atmosphere that is being attributed to fossil fuel use. I’d say we are damn lucky CO2 does NOT cause “global warming”! Which fossil fuels (aka hydrocarbons) do not consume atmosphere? Which hydrocarbons w/atmosphere are not negative energy? Assuming Earth was chemically and thermal-dynamically balanced before modern humans ever came along, and if we modern humans contribute 70 TW/hr, where's the problem in figuring out this GW/AGW thing? It isn't a problem of figuring out the effects: it's a problem of rejecting the facts and evidence. *http://groups.google.com/groups/search *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” -- "RESPECT ARE - COUNTRY SPEAK ENGLISH" --- sign at a "tea party" rally I must continually reject those unwilling to interpret the best available science. It's called mainstream obfuscation, and those opposed to any GW/AGW that's human caused are always good at obfuscating their butts off. The all-inclusive affects of humans isn't insignificant. http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” |
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CO2 and Deforestation: Back of the envelope calculation.
On Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:54:33 -0700, Brad Guth wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:56Â*am, Desertphile wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 15:42:16 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: On Jul 4, 11:07Â*am, bjacoby wrote: Back of the envelope cutting TREES and CO2 ===http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange2/current/ lectures/defo... 40 million acres per year. Trees destroyed each YEAR! CO2 stored per acre per year: 3.67 metric tons CO2 . Calculation of CO2 in atmosphere. http://micpohling.wordpress.com/2007...w-much-co2-by- weigh... 1750-1960 Â*Produced Â*1190 million tons CO2 per year into atmosphere. Â*From 1960 to 2007 produced 12,127 million tons per year. For drill we will assume that trees are on average 50 years old and all CO2 stored in trees ends up being freed by burning, decay etc. 40 x 3.67 x 50 = Â*7140 million tons of CO2 EACH YEAR produced by Forest destruction! Note that this is 60% of the CO2 increase that is being claimed as ONLY due to fossil fuels. And there is one more thing: The trees cut down are no longer sucking up CO2 so their YEARLY UPTAKE must be ADDED to the total which is another 150 million tons per year. The point of this exercise is not to produce an exact theory of CO2 and deforestation but simply to do a quick calculation to show that deforestation is likely a MAJOR cause if not THE major cause of the alarming, dramatic and accelerating CO2 levels in the atmosphere that is being attributed to fossil fuel use. I’d say we are damn lucky CO2 does NOT cause “global warming”! Which fossil fuels (aka hydrocarbons) do not consume atmosphere? Which hydrocarbons w/atmosphere are not negative energy? Assuming Earth was chemically and thermal-dynamically balanced before modern humans ever came along, and if we modern humans contribute 70 TW/hr, where's the problem in figuring out this GW/AGW thing? It isn't a problem of figuring out the effects: it's a problem of rejecting the facts and evidence. Â*http://groups.google.com/groups/search Â*http://translate.google.com/# Â*Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” -- "RESPECT ARE - COUNTRY SPEAK ENGLISH" --- sign at a "tea party" rally I must continually reject those unwilling to interpret the best available science. It's called mainstream obfuscation, and those opposed to any GW/AGW that's human caused are always good at obfuscating their butts off. The all-inclusive affects of humans isn't insignificant. http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” Wait... aren't you the guy who wants to dig tunnels on the moon and don't believe in special relativity? |
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CO2 and Deforestation: Back of the envelope calculation.
On Jul 5, 6:06*pm, Marvin the Martian wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:54:33 -0700, Brad Guth wrote: On Jul 5, 7:56*am, Desertphile wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 15:42:16 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: On Jul 4, 11:07*am, bjacoby wrote: Back of the envelope cutting TREES and CO2 ===http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange2/current/ lectures/defo... 40 million acres per year. Trees destroyed each YEAR! CO2 stored per acre per year: 3.67 metric tons CO2 . Calculation of CO2 in atmosphere. http://micpohling.wordpress.com/2007...w-much-co2-by- weigh... 1750-1960 *Produced *1190 million tons CO2 per year into atmosphere. *From 1960 to 2007 produced 12,127 million tons per year. For drill we will assume that trees are on average 50 years old and all CO2 stored in trees ends up being freed by burning, decay etc. 40 x 3.67 x 50 = *7140 million tons of CO2 EACH YEAR produced by Forest destruction! Note that this is 60% of the CO2 increase that is being claimed as ONLY due to fossil fuels. And there is one more thing: The trees cut down are no longer sucking up CO2 so their YEARLY UPTAKE must be ADDED to the total which is another 150 million tons per year. The point of this exercise is not to produce an exact theory of CO2 and deforestation but simply to do a quick calculation to show that deforestation is likely a MAJOR cause if not THE major cause of the alarming, dramatic and accelerating CO2 levels in the atmosphere that is being attributed to fossil fuel use. I’d say we are damn lucky CO2 does NOT cause “global warming”! Which fossil fuels (aka hydrocarbons) do not consume atmosphere? Which hydrocarbons w/atmosphere are not negative energy? Assuming Earth was chemically and thermal-dynamically balanced before modern humans ever came along, and if we modern humans contribute 70 TW/hr, where's the problem in figuring out this GW/AGW thing? It isn't a problem of figuring out the effects: it's a problem of rejecting the facts and evidence. *http://groups.google.com/groups/search *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” -- "RESPECT ARE - COUNTRY SPEAK ENGLISH" --- sign at a "tea party" rally I must continually reject those unwilling to interpret the best available science. *It's called mainstream obfuscation, and those opposed to any GW/AGW that's human caused are always good at obfuscating their butts off. The all-inclusive affects of humans isn't insignificant. *http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...e.google.com/# *Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” Wait... aren't you the guy who wants to dig tunnels on the moon and don't believe in special relativity? What do you have against TBMs excavating into our moon? Relativity is a theory that can be replaced by other laws of physics. Photons are also nonzero mass, at least half of their 2D time, and dark/transparent matter does seen to exist or rather coexist. Something weird is still going on with Venus. “Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...79402364691314 Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel) http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” |
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CO2 and Deforestation: Back of the envelope calculation.
On Jul 4, 7:07*pm, bjacoby wrote:
Back of the envelope cutting TREES and CO2 ===http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange2/current/lectures/defo... 40 million acres per year. Trees destroyed each YEAR! CO2 stored per acre per year: 3.67 metric tons CO2 . Calculation of CO2 in atmosphere. http://micpohling.wordpress.com/2007...h-co2-by-weigh... 1750-1960 *Produced *1190 million tons CO2 per year into atmosphere. *From 1960 to 2007 produced 12,127 million tons per year. For drill we will assume that trees are on average 50 years old and all CO2 stored in trees ends up being freed by burning, decay etc. 40 x 3.67 x 50 = *7140 million tons of CO2 EACH YEAR produced by Forest destruction! Note that this is 60% of the CO2 increase that is being claimed as ONLY due to fossil fuels. And there is one more thing: The trees cut down are no longer sucking up CO2 so their YEARLY UPTAKE must be ADDED to the total which is another 150 million tons per year. The point of this exercise is not to produce an exact theory of CO2 and deforestation but simply to do a quick calculation to show that deforestation is likely a MAJOR cause if not THE major cause of the alarming, dramatic and accelerating CO2 levels in the atmosphere that is being attributed to fossil fuel use. I’d say we are damn lucky CO2 does NOT cause “global warming”! Every now and then, some nutbar comes on here and says this. Read this, will you? CO2 most certainly does cause warming. You are simply ignorant of the fact and the physics - like others of your ilk: http://www.jcsda.noaa.gov/documents/...fraRadTran.pdf Now come back on and tell us that CO2 does not cause global warming. You won't, because you can't justify your idiot assertion. You'll probably have a go at me instead for showing you up as a nutbar again. *)) |
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CO2 and Deforestation: Back of the envelope calculation.
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 05:43:12 -0700 (PDT), Dawlish
wrote: On Jul 4, 7:07*pm, bjacoby wrote: I’d say we are damn lucky CO2 does NOT cause global warming! In the same sense that we're damn lucking there's no such things as death and taxes. Every now and then, some nutbar comes on here and says this. Read this, will you? CO2 most certainly does cause warming. You are simply ignorant of the fact and the physics - like others of your ilk: http://www.jcsda.noaa.gov/documents/...fraRadTran.pdf Now come back on and tell us that CO2 does not cause global warming. You won't, because you can't justify your idiot assertion. You'll probably have a go at me instead for showing you up as a nutbar again. *)) The cultist will ignore the facts, the evidence, and the laws of physics. He has a political ideology to further.... -- "RESPECT ARE - COUNTRY SPEAK ENGLISH" --- sign at a "tea party" rally |
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