The rigid airship (fat waverider/shuttle) to/from hell:

"sal" wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:06:14 +0000, Brad Guth wrote:

There is no "bad weather" on Venus

Give it a rest, and stop cross-posting. I had set the followups to the
groups where that message you replied to was actually sort of on-topic.

There's nothing but bad weather on Venus.
? Such as one or perhaps 2 m/s ? or are you talking about the
geothermal driven thermal dynamics of those vertical differential flows
that could be fairly impressive.

Silly boy/gal. Besides your own shadow, what the heck are you silly
anti-everything and/or naysay/denial upon most everything that's under
the one and only Jewish sun, as representing such mainstream status quo
minions that are obviously so deathly afraid of the truth and nothing
but the truth.

Perhaps the other intelligent life that's existing or as ETs coexisting
on Venus are Muslim or somewhat Cathar related with a capital "C" and a
serious need to kick a few of our less than holy Catholic Pope like
butts before they get around to all the other butts that badly need
their fair share of kicking.
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Brad Guth wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message

Brad, your fantasy airship will NEVER approach the beauty and elegance
of Josh Geller's. Powered by Volkswagen engines pumping helium through
garden hoses, crewed by semi-naked women and heated by the burning of
bales of marijuana, Geller's airship is the finest that talk.bizarre
has to offer.

In other words, you know of nothing about waverider spaceplanes or rigid
airship technology, nor much less that of any related physics.

Of course not. That's because this is talk.bizarre that you are crossposting
to.

Gee whiz, why the heck didn't you just say that you are totally airship
dumbfounded, and simply admit that you otherwise don't believe in the
regular laws of physics. Wouldn't that have been so much easier?

Talk.bizarre isn't ABOUT the laws of physics. It's about railroad track
solvent, and sex with reptiles, and about Cuban vacuum cleaners. Brad,
if you want to talk about airships and physics you are not in the right
newsgroups. Airships and physics are just too mainstream status quo for
talk.bizarre. Now, if you're willing to have sex with reptiles and post
long descriptions about it, or eat a huge piece of jimsonweed and drive
a riding mower through a shopping mail, THEN that would be relevant for
talk.bizarre.

But Brad, your postings are just too boring and routine for our newsgroup.
Please stop crossposting here.

Is "talk.bizarre" the same Usenet group as as "talk.dumbfounded",
"talk.dumb.dumber" or perhaps "talk.bigot"?

No, but it IS connected to alt.roger-carasso and alt.meredith-tanner.
hairy-douchebag. Not to mention alt.i.have.too.many.heads.
--scott
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message


Is "talk.bizarre" the same Usenet group as as "talk.dumbfounded",
"talk.dumb.dumber" or perhaps "talk.bigot"?

No, but it IS connected to alt.roger-carasso and alt.meredith-tanner.
hairy-douchebag. Not to mention alt.i.have.too.many.heads.
--scott

Very good to know that about your "talk.bizarre" that supposedly has no
topics related to reality nor much less related to any truth(s).

"Forrest Whittaker: Is he the worst actor of all time, or one of the
greatest?"

"Six years on, how is the Fascism?"

"Unacceptable"

"Love thy vanquished and abused atheist neighbor: Pray that GOD heal his
heart and other damaged internal organs."

"Slumming, through the Death Threats, with You (was: America vs. the
Commie Mommy State.)"

"Trapped in the rail yard elevator"

"A True Patriot Warrior"

And so forth. It's good to know that you too are just another a pagan
born-again liar and a certified bigot to boot.
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Brad Guth wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
Is "talk.bizarre" the same Usenet group as as "talk.dumbfounded",
"talk.dumb.dumber" or perhaps "talk.bigot"?

No, but it IS connected to alt.roger-carasso and alt.meredith-tanner.
hairy-douchebag. Not to mention alt.i.have.too.many.heads.

Very good to know that about your "talk.bizarre" that supposedly has no
topics related to reality nor much less related to any truth(s).

The truth is seldom bizarre, Brad. It's usually pretty boring. Here
in talk.bizarre we'd much rather talk about how Jeff Vogel ran his baby
through the washing machine, or how steroids make you gay, rather than
anything truthful.

Brad, talk.bizarre is like the Weekly World News of Usenet. The stuff
you post isn't HALF weird enough here.
--scott

And remember, Kids, Fail to Suck Day is just around the corner.

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sal wrote:
As I recall, zeppelins -- to which this seems closely related -- were
limited to something like a 4000 foot ceiling.

This is incorrect. As far back as October 1914, the Zeppelin L-55 reached a
height of 24,000 feet (after it engaged in an 11-ship airship bombing
attack against England during WWI; the airships encountered 45 to 50 mph
winds and 5 of the 11 ships were lost).

I've got a fair number of books about airships on my bookshelf and based on
their reading, I can say that the Wikipedia article is relatively well done
and worth reading to clear up some misconceptions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airship

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message


The truth is seldom bizarre, Brad. It's usually pretty boring. Here
in talk.bizarre we'd much rather talk about how Jeff Vogel ran his baby
through the washing machine, or how steroids make you gay, rather than
anything truthful.

Obviously your "Jeff Vogel ran his baby through the washing machine" is
exactly the sorts of hocus-pocus crapolla of what sick and perverted
wizards like yourself would much rather be talking about, while others
are kindly contributing their weirdness by way of sharing and thereby
discussing interesting and somewhat outside the box sorts of weird stuff
that could actually matter, such as there being other intelligent life
on Venus (exoskeletal Cathars or whatever Venusian Muslims), and/or we
have the little extra matter of fact that our extremely robust and
nearby mascon of a physically dark and nasty moon that has been global
warming us to death ever since the arrival of that big old icy
proto-moon, and obviously we're stuck with having it's salty remainder
that's still orbiting us and thereby having been causing a great deal of
global tidal friction, plus having caused all sorts of tidal related
currents (inside and out) of motivating various thermal energy
transferrance, that which simply wouldn't have been so gosh darn
horrific if our environment were merely having to go by those solar
induced tides.

Brad, talk.bizarre is like the Weekly World News of Usenet. The stuff
you post isn't HALF weird enough here.
--scott

And remember, Kids, Fail to Suck Day is just around the corner.

Obviously your lower than gutter scum sucking mindset via your extremely
brown nose of buttology suck-up status quo is exactly where it belongs
(squarely between those butt-cheeks of your next innocent victim), along
with all of your other anti-Muslim and pro-Jewish friends that would
like nothing better than to get whomever's the next Christ almighty
trouble maker placed right back on another stick, and for having the
likes of your born-again Roman puppet GW Bush arround for accomplishing
that dastardly task was obviously perfectly fine and dandy by way of
your previously proof-tested Third Reich collaborating minion status
quo. (sorry if that analogy wasn't quite bizarre enough)

In your perverted pro-petafile and pro-polluted world of continuing to
rape mother Earth for all she's worth, and for otherwise having
perpetrated and thus promoting whatever best sucks and blows to your
rusemaster black heart's content, whereas clearly all that matters is
achieving one more lie after another until each and every one of those
NASA/Apollo rad-hard cows and/or invisible/stealth unfiltered Kodak
moments comes home for good. (sorry once again if that wasn't
sufficiently bizarre)

As your having previously stipulated "the truth is seldom bizarre" and
"the stuff you post isn't HALF weird enough". I'm terribly sorry about
all that, as I'll simply have to try harder next time.
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Jim Logajan wrote:


I've got a fair number of books about airships on my bookshelf and based on
their reading, I can say that the Wikipedia article is relatively well done
and worth reading to clear up some misconceptions:



If you don't have a copy yet, get "The Zeppelin In Combat" by Douglas H.
Robinson.
This is a _superb_ book with several hundred great vintage photos*, and
was originally published several decades ago with the input and full
cooperation of the German W W I Zeppelin veterans.
This is _the_ book on German Zeppelin operations in the First World War:
http://www.amazon.com/Zeppelin-Comba.../dp/088740510X
And it has very high quality paper in it, and a superb and tough binding
on it as well.
Meanwhile, Luftschiff fans, der Kaiser orders you to get your 3D glasses
out and get a look at just how big these airships were, via vintage
stereo-opticon views of them; particularly check out the view looking
into the interior of the horizontal tail fin...as that one will knock
your eyes out: http://www.3d-historisch.de/Zeppelin...3D-Galerie.htm

* What's wonderful about those photos is that thanks to the camera
technology of the era, the best photos were taken using a huge film
emulsion plate rather than film on a roll, and the fidelity of the
photos is superb due to that fact. The book has two-whole-page sized
reproductions of some of them, and the level of detail visible is amazing.
They used top-grade semi-gloss paper for the book, and thank God they
did, because it really lets the the photos be seen in their original
full glory.

Pat

On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:18:09 -0600, Pat Flannery
wrote:

If you don't have a copy yet, get "The Zeppelin In Combat" by Douglas H.
Robinson.

....And then there was the unmade Hammer film "Zepplin v.
Pteredactyls", which had a pair of Zeps attempting to rescue an
expedition to a "Kong-class" island, only to find it guarded by
pteredactyls. Hammer went bankrupt while this was in pre-production,
but IIRC the plan was to use stop-motion directed by a couple of
former Harryhousen animators. This one might have been campy enough to
have become a cult favorite!

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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:28:29 +0000, Jim Logajan wrote:

sal wrote:
As I recall, zeppelins -- to which this seems closely related -- were
limited to something like a 4000 foot ceiling.

This is incorrect. As far back as October 1914, the Zeppelin L-55 reached
a height of 24,000 feet (after it engaged in an 11-ship airship bombing
attack against England during WWI; the airships encountered 45 to 50 mph
winds and 5 of the 11 ships were lost).

Well well -- I should have checked my facts rather than relying on my all
to fallible memory...


I've got a fair number of books about airships on my bookshelf and based
on their reading, I can say that the Wikipedia article is relatively
well done and worth reading to clear up some misconceptions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airship

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sal wrote:

:On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:28:29 +0000, Jim Logajan wrote:
:
: sal wrote:
: As I recall, zeppelins -- to which this seems closely related -- were
: limited to something like a 4000 foot ceiling.
:
: This is incorrect. As far back as October 1914, the Zeppelin L-55 reached
: a height of 24,000 feet (after it engaged in an 11-ship airship bombing
: attack against England during WWI; the airships encountered 45 to 50 mph
: winds and 5 of the 11 ships were lost).
:
:Well well -- I should have checked my facts rather than relying on my all
:to fallible memory...

There seems to be some disagreement on the facts. The raid he's
referring to was actually in 1917, not 1914. The actual altitude (an
all time record for airships that stood until August of this year,
when it was surpassed by a Russian airship) was 24,606 feet. L-55 was
one of the five airships lost in the raid he mentioned. The other
four were shot down over France while returning from the raid. L-55
crashed in central Germany due to damage sustained because of the
excessive altitude, which she maintained over France to avoid the
fighters.

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