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Old February 12th 07, 10:25 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.research,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.space.shuttle
Brad Guth[_2_]
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Since accomplishing most anything upon or even anywhere near our moon
seems rather Usenet taboo/nondisclosure (off limits), and since folks
here in Usenet land of all that's spook/mole orchestrated as
anti-think-tank naysayism, or otherwise stuck in damage control mode
simply can't manage to behave themselves, much less focus constructively
upon the original topic at hand; here's yet another of my constructive
GS(global shading) contributions, of related research work in progress
to sha

Though not impossible, it is simply not all that likely that Earth's
moon emerged from within mother Earth, whereas more likely as having
materialized from an incoming glancing sucker punch, such as by that of
a Sirius Oort cloud icy item, as for Earth having received a nasty blow
(say having created an arctic ocean basin like impression, along with
causing that seasonal tilt), by a very icy proto-moon (possibly of 4,000
km).

For a brief example; If the orbital distance were made half and thus
the velocity would have to double because the mutual gravity of
attraction would have become 4X, therefore we'd have introduced 16 fold
more inside and out worth of centripetal/tidal energy to deal with, and
I'm not all that sure mother Earth would have stayed glued together at
that level of horrific gravitional and internal tidal forced trauma,
much less for cutting that orbital distance by yet another half (making
its previous orbit at 96,100 km and velocity of 4.092 km/s) would have
to impose yet another 16 fold factor, or rather suggesting 256 fold
worse global warming trauma than what we currently are suffering from
the existing tidal and thereby unavoidable GW affects as is.

The mainstream argument(s) against my icy proto-moon argument, as to
what's not quite adding up, soon becomes a real physics ****-off; How
much time did it take for that moon which supposedly emerged from within
Earth, to have reached the orbital altitude of 96,100 km, then having
migrated from 96,100 km out to where it's currently operating at 384,400
km? (thus far, none of those spendy computer simulations seem clean
enough)

If within the regular laws of physics and by way of scientific matter of
fact, suggesting that we do seem to have at our disposal 2e20 joules of
potential mascon tidal energy via the mutual Earth/moon gravity and the
for ever ongoing centripetal force to deal with, as applied energy
that's coming or ongoing per each and every second, as such that's
actually imposing a rather great potential of interactive planet--moon
energy that's obviously existing and ongoing, or simply as coming or
going as to/from somewhere or otherwise having to coexist as real
energy.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/cf.html#cf
AJ Gravity Equations Formulas Calculator

http://www.ajdesigner.com/phpgravity...tion_force.php
Just for our calculating the Earth/moon static or passive worth of
gravitational force:

object 1 mass (m1) = 5.9736e24 kilogram
object 2 mass (m2) = 7.349e22 kilogram
distance between objects (r) = 384.4e6 meters

grams of gravitational force(F) = 2.021492e22 g
The kg of gravitational force = 2.021492e19 kg

Here's some more of this weird physics math that doesn't quite fit the
status quo mold, suggesting as to what it'll create by way of our having
placed 7.35e22 kg at Earth's L1 if we excluded the sun itself, which of
course can't ever be the case.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/cf.html#cf
r = 1.5376e9 meters
M = 7.35e22 kg
V = 112e3 m/s (if in relation to Earth's 24 hr rotation)
Centripetal force: Fc = 5.996254e23 N = 6.11448e22 kgf
6.11448e22 kgf * 9.80665 = 5.996e23 joules Earth--L1

However, since the notion of having our moon relocated at Earth's L1 is
essentially having diverted such into no longer orbiting us, there's
actually zero centripetal interaction taking place (Earth is simply
rather nicely spinning for no apparent reason at the end of this mutual
and somewhat nullified sol/moon/Earth gravity string), whereas
Sol--Earth L1 is supposedly the primary gravity influence of what takes
back or rather nullifies all of the moon's gravity as well as having
eliminated the centripetal force of whatever's equivalent in joules
worth of implied energy:

As for the sol--moon orbital interaction, as having established a
7.35e22 kg planetoid of orbital Fc = 44.4975e25 joules

object 1 mass (m1) = 1.989e30 kilogram
object 2 mass (m2) = 7.35e22 kilogram
distance between objects (r) = 148060290 meters
gravitational force (F) = 4.5375282969184E+25 kgf
The kgf as energy.s = 4.5375283e25 * 9.80655 = 44.4975e25 joules

Obviously the opposing gravity force/energy relationship that's
involving mother Earth has to be taken into account. I simply haven't
gotten that far.

In other words, with our moon relocated out to Earth L1, we/Earth lose
out on the original 2e20 joules, replaced by the sol/moon combined
gravity and tidal influence that's going to become considerably less
imposing than what we'd had ongoing from having that horrific amount of
nearby orbiting mass of 7.35e22 kg and cruising at 1.023 km/s. However,
we/Earth get to deal with our fair share portion of the 44.4975e25
joules while that moon becomes our local planetoid that's cruising
within Earth's L1, as our binary partner on behalf of offering that much
needed shade.

Since we're talking about the existing Fc as a centripetal force per
second, therefore the conversion over to joules is also of one that's
based upon a second by second basis.

1 joule = 1 W.s (watt second)
3600 j = 1 W.h (watt hour)
1 watt hour of applied energy is therefore worth: 3600 joules
1 joule/sec as applied for an hour thereby also = 3600 joules

Each kgf (kg of applied force/m/s) = 9.80665 joules

There's roughly 2.0394e19 kgf of Fc (centripetal force) that's
continually second by second as ongoing opposing force between Earth and
our unusually massive and nearby orbiting mascon/moon.

The second by second amount of centripetal force becomes:
2.0215e19 * 9.80665 = 19.824e19 joules

Per hour, that amount of second by second applied energy becomes worth:
2e20 j * 3.6e3 = 7.2e23 W.h (watts per hour), or 7.2e20 kw

At 7.2e20 / 5.112e14 m2 = 1.408e6 kw/m2

Obviously we're not getting ourselves mascon/moon roasted or otherwist
tramatised to death by way of that horrific amount of applied energy,
though a small portion of that mutual (inside and out) tidal induced
energy is unavoidably becoming thermal energy via friction (inside and
out). In addition to the Fc of 7.2e20 KW.h, there's also a touch of the
moon's IR/FIR as terrestrial influx, although because we're continually
being science data starved, as without having moon/L1 data, is why I've
not yet accounted for the reflected and secondary worth of such IR/FIR
energy that's received by Earth.

The slight portion of the mascon gravity that's offset by centripetal
force is what I'm suggesting is capable of global warming us inside and
out, as listing below:
0.1% = 1.408 kw/m2
0.01% = 140.8 w/m2
0.001% = 14 w/m2
0.0001% = 1.4 w/m2

However, since I'm on such a Usenet taboo or banishment status of a
need-to-know basis, and since I clearly do not already know all there is
to know, is why some of my math could be unintentionally skewed or even
dead wrong. Therefore, if your wizardly expertise should know any
better, perhaps you could simply share by telling us how much or how
little of that total amount of nearby mascon gravity and centripetal
force of applied tidal energy is actually keeping us a little extra warm
and toasty. My swag is leaning towards the 0.001% of the 7.2e20 KW.h,
as being worth 14 w/m2. Of course that's applied inside and out,
including a tidal forced atmosphere and otherwise all the way down to
the very core of Earth, and thereby affecting most everything in between
that's in any way fluid or capable of getting moved along by such
forces.

Therefore, take away our moon and subsequently a major portion of our
surface environment becomes rather extra snowy and icy cold to the
touch, not to mention rather albedo reflective to boot, perhaps even ice
age cold enough as to reestablish a few of those badly receding glaciers
and otherwise expand those polar caps. At least that's what the regular
laws of physics and of replicated science has been suggesting. That's
not my excluding or disqualifying the human GW factor of our global
dimming via soot and by having added those nasty elements (including
h2o) into our frail environment that's obviously anything but within
energy balance, that are directly and/or indirectly polluting our oceans
and atmosphere, like none other or even by what the entire collective of
known species other than human can accomplish (are we humans good at
raping and sucking the very life out of mother Earth, or what).
However, as bad off as that sounds, I simply do not place more than 25%
responsibility onto ourselves, and perhaps that's even worth as little
as 10% of the ongoing global warming demise that's plaguing us until we
manage to relocate that pesky moon of our's.

Too bad there's not one American supercomputer that's worthy of running
any of this analogy, at least not without blowing out their mainstream
status quo CPUs. Apparently only of what's Old Testament faith based,
or as hocus-pocus and/or cloak and dagger analogies can be run as fully
3D interactive computer simulations. As God forbid, you certainly
wouldn't want to rock thy good ship LOLLIPOP with the truth, now would
we.

Unfortunately, our ongoing demise of our highly protective
magnetosphere, at the rate of -0.05%/year, may eventually overtake the
GW factor, as being the more human DNA and of other forms of life
ultimate lethal demise of these two ongoing gauntlets, which added
together are going to represent more trauma than most such forms of life
as we know of can manage to evolve our way through, or otherwise survive
via applied technology.

Perhaps if the status quo gets its usual brown-nosed Skull and Bones
worth of big-energy buttology certified way, whereas life on Venus
(though naked humanly hot) isn't looking quite as bad off as we've been
faith-based mainstream informed.
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Brad Guth


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Old February 21st 07, 07:23 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.research,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.space.shuttle
Brad Guth[_2_]
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Default The Moon, LSE-CM/ISS, Venus and beyond, with He3 to burn

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Of all the nifty and scientifically valuable sorts of nearby places that
we can affordably and safely reach with our existing fly-by-rocket
technology as of decades ago, Venus L2 is certainly a cool enough place
to be situated, with secondly being that of our establishing a mostly if
not entirely robotic science platform at our moon's L2, that's really
nearby us.

There's no actual need of our terraforming Venus, as a fairly newish
planetology it's doing just fine and dandy as is, along with having a
billion fold more raw energy to burn (sort of speak) than Iraq, and
better yet because Venus energy is 100% renewable and actually it's
relatively clean energy at that. With some of our best applied
technology, we could actually go there and perhaps visit directly with
whomever or whatever had accomplished those rather sizable
modifications. However, terraforming our moon may be of some local
interest, especially once having relocated that moon into Earth's L1
sweet spot for obtaining some badly needed shade, and having China
accomplish their LSE-CM/ISS is simply a solid win-win for the old
gipper.

However, are the few and far between likes of "Joann Evans" and "Martha
H Adams" dead and gone?

It seems as though, all that's left within this mostly Usenet brown-nose
land of unlimited butt-suckings are those MI/NSA~MIB spooks and moles,
doing their usual Old Testament thing of acting out and/or reacting
rather badly as though functioning exactly like the Jewish sorts of
Third Reich (aka Skull and Bones). Am I wrong?

Take to mentioning or otherwise sharing anything about intelligent other
life, or much less that of forbid any honest thoughts of sharing upon
intelligent design and of applied technology as utilized on behalf of
whatever we as well as ETs should be capable of, then sit back and watch
as all of Usenet status quo hell brakes lose, as though having gone
Mormon or perhaps Amish on us, and of otherwise going absolutely naysay
postal like a certain Pope did to those nice Cathars.

If I show folks a perfectly good picture (of better pixel truth worthy
image than offered by most any visual spectrum CCD format) of what's
offering us sufficient physical evidence as a perfectly deductive form
of reasonably interpreted proof, as to sharing in whatever's
existing/coexisting as intelligent other life upon Venus, and suddenly
it's WW-III, if not a whole lot worse.

Share most any honest thought pertaining to our extremely large and
nearby moon that's truly a one of a kind orb by way of its ratio to that
of the associated planet, and at best you've got yourself another nasty
all-or-nothing gauntlet, as having created another butt-load of causing
seriously big trouble in NASA's River City.

Contribute an honest thought as to resolving our ongoing lack of clean
or even dirty energy and of the partly human associated global warming
fiascos, then watch as faster than a speeding bullet you've got more
than your fair share of those big-energy and pro-government brown-noses
that start coming out of the wood, as well as emerging out of those
mainstream status quo cesspools, like so many infomercial butt-flapping
clowns popping out of those silly little cars.

It's literally an ongoing bloody joke, as to what we're continually
doing to ourselves and to that of our badly failing environment, yet
those silly mainstream clowns keep arriving as though having an endless
supply of those spendy little clown cars that realty have the world's
worse possible EMPG ratings, and of their total dependence upon nasty
oil and/or of spendy and otherwise polluting fuel alternatives that we
can imagine. Unfortunately, this is all decades old news, and in some
instances it's simply too far gone past the point of no return.

In spite of the best available truths, every effort has been made to
disqualify or otherwise stock, bash and to banish upon allowing any form
of local or private America establishing the best applied technology of
clean and renewable energy. It's as though they (big-energy and
bigger-government) want us to pay that $1/kwhr or the equal worth in
whatever other forms of energy, while further insuring we'll have
established zilch worth of local or private alternatives to fall back
upon.

Our ongoing avoidance of our moon, of the moon's nifty L1, of anything
Venus or even that of establishing something/anything at VL2, and
especially that of our having avoided any chance of taking the nearby
Sirius star/solar system seriously, is absolutely and rather insanely
the most taboo/nondisclosure form of intellectual and scientific
blockage via mainstream crapolla that simply shouldn't exist, that is
unless you're stuck forever within some kind of pagan form of heathen
naysay mode of unlimited denial.

If you've got any better insider clue(s) as to what's going on, please
do share.
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Brad Guth


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