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Old August 16th 03, 07:56 PM
George Buyanovsky
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I have questions about relativity of microwave background radiation
map.

---------------- Thought experiment:
Observer A gathers information upon the area close to event horizon
(for instance - microwave background radiation map). Observer B
accomplishes the similar observation from different observation point.
"Different observation point" means that B and A move relatively each
other, or B is separated from A by distance. The particular redshift
distribution patterns have to be different for A and B =(?) we may
expect a different microwave background radiation maps as well. The
more relative speed or distance the more different map would be
acquired. Analogy with traditional horizon is good illustration (only
for distance). The implication of it is striking (for me). The
conditions shortly after Big Bang are a relative matter. Actually, it
means that past is a relative matter. The "0/1" is a relative matter.
And even more, the near Big Bang conditions may cause different
fundamental laws of physics (see Smolin/Linde) and all subset of laws
which still is able to manifest what I perceive as "background
radiation map" and would allow me to keep self-identity, all this
subset (may be beyond as well) is free to be chosen. May be "free
will" is the direct implication of this freedom. The consequence of
this is that the multiverse construct is not something hypothetical it
is a daily life routine. Probably my assumption about "different map"
may be wrong.
----------------
This thought experiment shows that the reality itself may be a
relative matter.

Questions:

-Is it wrong assumption about "different map"?
- If maps are different does it cause the relativity of past?

I would appreciate your comments.

Thanks,
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Old August 19th 03, 11:55 PM
George Buyanovsky
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Ulf Torkelsson wrote in message ...
Effectively this
means that it is not possible to measure any primordial dipole pattern
in the microwave background, since A and B will measure different dipole
components, and will not agree on who is at rest.
Therefore their
images of the microwave radiation will differ in the details, though we
expect the two images two have the same statistical properties. If the
statistical properties of the images would differ,


You are evidently right about technical aspects of microwave
background radiation (MBR) measurements. I had considered the thought
experiment as an abstract construct. Assume that we are able to filter
out any contribution to MBR beyond/after some duration (D) after Big
Bang. If D tends to zero the MBR map difference tends to be
statistically undistinguishable for any observer. However the patterns
fluctuation will keep the constant rate for any singular sub area of D
(I may explain why). These fluctuations are consequences of ideal
picture (this is the key). The fluctuation for D-0 has to cause the
different matter (galaxy) distribution (however statistically (for
13-15 billions light years observation) it has to be
undistinguishable). Again it is a consequence of ideal picture not a
technical limitation of measurements.

Regards,
George Buyanovsky
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Old August 19th 03, 11:55 PM
George Buyanovsky
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Default Relativity of microwave background radiation map.

Ulf Torkelsson wrote in message ...
Effectively this
means that it is not possible to measure any primordial dipole pattern
in the microwave background, since A and B will measure different dipole
components, and will not agree on who is at rest.
Therefore their
images of the microwave radiation will differ in the details, though we
expect the two images two have the same statistical properties. If the
statistical properties of the images would differ,


You are evidently right about technical aspects of microwave
background radiation (MBR) measurements. I had considered the thought
experiment as an abstract construct. Assume that we are able to filter
out any contribution to MBR beyond/after some duration (D) after Big
Bang. If D tends to zero the MBR map difference tends to be
statistically undistinguishable for any observer. However the patterns
fluctuation will keep the constant rate for any singular sub area of D
(I may explain why). These fluctuations are consequences of ideal
picture (this is the key). The fluctuation for D-0 has to cause the
different matter (galaxy) distribution (however statistically (for
13-15 billions light years observation) it has to be
undistinguishable). Again it is a consequence of ideal picture not a
technical limitation of measurements.

Regards,
George Buyanovsky
 




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