Will China Beat the United States Back to the Moon?

Sheesh.

1. Nobody cares except the Chinese commies.
2. Old Russian hardware = well-tested, reliable hardware.
3. The United States will soon be too broke to try.

On Nov 7, 4:01 pm, richard schumacher wrote:
Sheesh.

1. Nobody cares except the Chinese commies.
2. Old Russian hardware = well-tested, reliable hardware.
3. The United States will soon be too broke to try.

I'll buy most of that! especially your No.3
--
Brad Guth

On Nov 7, 1:22 pm, gaetanomarano wrote:
On 6 Nov, 13:27, "Mark R. Whittington" wrote:

Recently, during an address on the space economy to coincide with the
fiftieth anniversary of the start of the space age, NASA Administrator
Michael Griffin made the assertion that China would beat the United
States to the Moon.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ina_beat_the_u...

this is the third time (after a Congress audition and an university
speech) that Mr. Griffin says that

I think it's right... China will win the new ("commercial", not
"military" like in '60s) "moon race"

some thinks he repeat this "alarm" to force the politics to give more
funds to NASA and more quickly

but, unfortunately for NASA and USA (and also for Europe and Russia)
China will win the race since:

1. the russian hardware is too old and they don't invest enough money
to renew it

2. the european efforts for (orbital and lunar) manned flights (with
european vehicles) is nearly ZERO

3. only USA has enough money to go back on the moon, but the NASA
plans and strategy is too much SLOW and COMPLEX

That's rather odd, as I'm being robo moderated by Google/NOVA. I'm
seriously impressed as all get out.

BTW, I also agree with Michael Griffin, that China is going to
commercially accomplish our moon first, although the moon's L1 is
certainly more than good enough.

Your No.3 is only because our NASA's team of Third Reich Yids and
those crews of rad-hard astronauts haven't quite gotten us around to
accomplishing that little pesky part about our having walked upon the
moon. First things first, is that we'll need a reliable fly-by-rocket
lander, plus a whole lot more punch than anything our Third Reich
Saturn V had to deliver, unless it's of a one-way ticket to ride.
--
Brad Guth

Mark R. Whittington wrote:
Recently, during an address on the space economy to coincide with the
fiftieth anniversary of the start of the space age, NASA Administrator
Michael Griffin made the assertion that China would beat the United
States to the Moon.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ates_back.html


How many races to be first to the moon is the USA expected to win?

Sylvia.

On Nov 7, 5:53 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
Mark R. Whittington wrote:
Recently, during an address on the space economy to coincide with the
fiftieth anniversary of the start of the space age, NASA Administrator
Michael Griffin made the assertion that China would beat the United
States to the Moon.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ina_beat_the_u...

How many races to be first to the moon is the USA expected to win?

How about winning the first one?
--
Brad Guth

BradGuth wrote:
On Nov 7, 5:53 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
Mark R. Whittington wrote:
Recently, during an address on the space economy to coincide with the
fiftieth anniversary of the start of the space age, NASA Administrator
Michael Griffin made the assertion that China would beat the United
States to the Moon.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ina_beat_the_u...
How many races to be first to the moon is the USA expected to win?

How about winning the first one?
--
Brad Guth


Well, anyone who doesn't believe that the USA have already landed a man
on the moon will presumably also refuse to believe any future such
claim. I wonder whether those people will be consistent and also refuse
to believe that any other country has landed a person on the moon in due
course.

Sylvia.

On Nov 7, 1:22 pm, gaetanomarano wrote:
On 6 Nov, 13:27, "Mark R. Whittington" wrote:

Recently, during an address on the space economy to coincide with the
fiftieth anniversary of the start of the space age, NASA Administrator
Michael Griffin made the assertion that China would beat the United
States to the Moon.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ina_beat_the_u...

this is the third time (after a Congress audition and an university
speech) that Mr. Griffin says that

I think it's right... China will win the new ("commercial", not
"military" like in '60s) "moon race"

some thinks he repeat this "alarm" to force the politics to give more
funds to NASA and more quickly

but, unfortunately for NASA and USA (and also for Europe and Russia)
China will win the race since:

1. the russian hardware is too old and they don't invest enough money
to renew it

2. the european efforts for (orbital and lunar) manned flights (with
european vehicles) is nearly ZERO

3. only USA has enough money to go back on the moon, but the NASA
plans and strategy is too much SLOW and COMPLEX

3) That's only because it has never actually been done before, and
it's not likely that other than the likes of robust rad-hard android/
robotics will ever be deployed onto the moon's surface by China within
this century. However, with sufficient shielding, the moon's L1 is
technically doable as a space depot/gateway (aka Clarke Station).

China is going to wipe our silly infowar/infomercial spewing butts,
and then some. We'll need to get used to it, or else.

I also agree with Michael Griffin, that China will likely accomplish
that moon of ours, before we do.
--
Brad Guth

Sylvia Else wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On Nov 7, 5:53 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
Mark R. Whittington wrote:
Recently, during an address on the space economy to coincide with
the fiftieth anniversary of the start of the space age, NASA
Administrator Michael Griffin made the assertion that China would
beat the United States to the Moon.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ina_beat_the_u...
How many races to be first to the moon is the USA expected to win?

How about winning the first one?
--
Brad Guth


Well, anyone who doesn't believe that the USA have already landed a
man on the moon will presumably also refuse to believe any future
such
claim. I wonder whether those people will be consistent and also
refuse to believe that any other country has landed a person on the
moon in due course.

THAT's why he so hot and bothered about the Chinese. If they go to
the Moon and bring back pictures of the US landing sites complete with
footprints and whatnot it will ruin his pet conspiracy theory. If the
US goes back first then he can always claim that they faked it all up.

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--John
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On Nov 7, 8:19 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On Nov 7, 5:53 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
Mark R. Whittington wrote:
Recently, during an address on the space economy to coincide with the
fiftieth anniversary of the start of the space age, NASA Administrator
Michael Griffin made the assertion that China would beat the United
States to the Moon.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ina_beat_the_u...
How many races to be first to the moon is the USA expected to win?

How about winning the first one?
--
Brad Guth

Well, anyone who doesn't believe that the USA have already landed a man
on the moon will presumably also refuse to believe any future such
claim. I wonder whether those people will be consistent and also refuse
to believe that any other country has landed a person on the moon in due
course.

Sylvia.

You got fly-by-rocket lander? (didn't think so)

You got rad-hard Kodak film that oddly can't manage to photograph
Venus? (didn't think so)

You got sufficient main rocket that'll get nearly 50 tonnes into a 100
km circular orbit of our moon within just slightly better than 3 days?
(I didn't think so)

Excluding your NASA/Apollo quran; What physics or independent science
have you, that which obviously our crack NASA/Apollo wizards having
almost entirely lost track of their own raw data, which gives us the
proof-positive as to that rad-hard EVA of moonsuit walking on our
PHYSICALLY DARK moon?

You folks can't or wouldn't dare run a fully interactive 3D orbital
simulator, because you're all nothing but a bunch or collective incest
of born-again semitic Third Reich liars.
--
Brad Guth

On Nov 8, 7:32 am, "J. Clarke" wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On Nov 7, 5:53 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
Mark R. Whittington wrote:
Recently, during an address on the space economy to coincide with
the fiftieth anniversary of the start of the space age, NASA
Administrator Michael Griffin made the assertion that China would
beat the United States to the Moon.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ina_beat_the_u...
How many races to be first to the moon is the USA expected to win?

How about winning the first one?
--
Brad Guth

Well, anyone who doesn't believe that the USA have already landed a
man on the moon will presumably also refuse to believe any future
such
claim. I wonder whether those people will be consistent and also
refuse to believe that any other country has landed a person on the
moon in due course.

THAT's why he so hot and bothered about the Chinese. If they go to
the Moon and bring back pictures of the US landing sites complete with
footprints and whatnot it will ruin his pet conspiracy theory. If the
US goes back first then he can always claim that they faked it all up.

Was that another breaking wind worth of infomercial/infowar farts?

If Japan or China does their far better than NASA thing of
photographing our physically dark and nasty moon that's so unavoidably
anticathode reactive, it'll likely show us those artificial craters
worth of our NASA/Apollo impacts, of their one-way hard landings, and
that's about it.
--
Brad Guth