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Bright blue light observed in night sky
Robin Wier wrote:
"CNJ999" wrote in message ups.com... The description is precisely what might be expected from seeing a distant but intense electric transformer or major powerline arc. Since the actual source was hidden by a nearby building, it would be impossible to tell if the source was situated low in the sky or simply at the horizon. Likewise, the writer says the flash was 40-degrees wide and high, impying a source very close to zero elevation...or simply at groundlevel. An electric arc can be extremely bright and intense even at a distance beyond which sound will carry. It is intensely bluish and will also tend to momentarily blind your night vision ("...the light being sucked out of the sky"). Likewise, such an event often will have a duration of a second or two. Considering the description, I see no reason to believe this was a celestial phenomena. CNJ999 Here in Phoenix, AZ, the city sits on a large, flat valley floor. Intense t-storms often produce such events. I refer to them as "blown transformers". On rare occasions two "go off" side by side in quick succession. These produce a double flash not unlike the OP's observation. At the right distance these can easily fill a large portion of the sky with a beautiful blue-green hue lasting 1-3 seconds. A blown transformer sounds like a cannon going off, though (I had one across the street wake me up at about 3 am a couple years ago). Was there any accompanying sound? |
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Anonymous AtWork wrote: A blown transformer sounds like a cannon going off, though (I had one across the street wake me up at about 3 am a couple years ago). Was there any accompanying sound? There is audiable sound only if the transformer failure is relatively nearby. I've seen their sky show at a distance of around 3-8 miles without any sound being heard (I live in an area where such failures are relatively common). CNJ999 |
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Bright blue light observed in night sky
"Chris L Peterson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 05:53:58 -0400, "George" wrote: I was thinking maybe it was an Iridium flare. Here is a chart of the iridium flares that were possible to see over victoria over the last 48 hours If nothing else, this should rule it in or out one way or another: The maximum intensity of an Iridium flare is only about -8, and the description provided by the OP made it sound as if the event was much brighter than that. Personally, I've never seen an Iridium flare as anything other than white. But people's perception of both color and intensity is quite variable, and as you note, the possibility of an Iridium flare is very testable. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com It was just a thought. I saw a very bright one about a year ago, but I don't remember if it had any color other than white. Someone else suggested that it could have been a transformer or an electric arc, which seems a reasonable explanation, except I don't think he mentioned anything about the loud boom that usually accompanies a blown transformer. George |
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Bright blue light observed in night sky
I saw something similar while driving along the freeway one time.
I finally figured out it was the spark from an electric train, combined with a light fog. I only figured it out because the train line ran alongside the freeway at one point, and a train just happened to go past and make a bit of a spark which lit up the entire area. Any train lines (or tram line) in the direction of the flash? There was a heavy fog the next morning, so it may have been the start of the fog at that time. Rob. "CNJ999" wrote in message ups.com... The description is precisely what might be expected from seeing a distant but intense electric transformer or major powerline arc. Since the actual source was hidden by a nearby building, it would be impossible to tell if the source was situated low in the sky or simply at the horizon. Likewise, the writer says the flash was 40-degrees wide and high, impying a source very close to zero elevation...or simply at groundlevel. An electric arc can be extremely bright and intense even at a distance beyond which sound will carry. It is intensely bluish and will also tend to momentarily blind your night vision ("...the light being sucked out of the sky"). Likewise, such an event often will have a duration of a second or two. Considering the description, I see no reason to believe this was a celestial phenomena. CNJ999 |
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Bright blue light observed in night sky
Frack,
It could be a lot of things...but I would suspect that the explanations with the highest probabilities are either an electrical transformer that exploded, a large meteor, or lightening at or below the horizon. My money is on the electrical transformer. They can be quite spectacular when the blow. Randy L. -- Remember: Any landing that you can walk away from, is a landing that you can be fined, sued, or prosecuted for. "Frackshat" wrote in message ups.com... Hi there, Here is a description of a very stange phenomenon I observed last night. I have no idea what caused this. If anyone has any good ideas please let me know. (A web search only reveals a couple of similar experiences, but most of them seem to be posted on "UFO" type forums, and hence the conversations tend to become a bit... muddy.) I was in Cheltenham, Victoria (Australia), outside looking at the stars. It was about 10:30 pm, Sunday June 4th. Conditions were clear; there was no cloud and the stars were as bright as ever. The moon was almost exactly half, and was towards the West - probably WNW about 40 degrees above the horizon. My first observation was of the sky actually dimming. (This could have been because I had just blinked and opened my eyes at the time that an initial flash was fading. However, it left me with the impression that the the light in the sky had been sucked away, and then emitted in the flash that as to follow. In fact the more I think about, this initial impression is also my considered lasting impression - it was as though the light was being sucked into a single point and then released in a huge silent explosion of light. Stupid as that sounds, read on...) The flash followed almost immediately. I would estimate that between the time I saw the sky start to fade until the blue flash began was about half a second. The blue light flash was very bright, and it filled probably 40 degrees of the horizon and to a height of about 40 degrees. It seemed to have a point source, but that was obscured by a building so I can't say what was at the middle of it. I heard no noise, but I was not in an entirely silent environment; I think I would have heard a loud noise such as thunder, but not a quieter one such as the sound of a distant flare. The glow seemed to come from ground level or not much above, from a direction roughly SSE. It was more a pulse than a flash, lasting less than a second. The colour of the flash I would describe as not a natural colour. That is not to say that this was not a natural phenomenon, but the colour was not like any other you usually associate with the sky - it was not the blue of the sky, lightning or stars. It was darkish, yet very bright. Not dark blue, but tending more towards dark than light blue. Perhaps a bit like a luminescent ocean blue. Someone I was with also saw the light, although she had her eyes half-closed so did not get a good look at it - she described it as whitish. Perhaps she had seen the initial flash that I had missed? My intial thoughts were that it might have been: - a flare, but the spread was too wide and I saw no moving object. - an explosion, possibly of an electrical station, but there was no noise, the colour was wrong and the house lights stayed on! - lightning, but it did not come from above and it did not flicker. Perhaps it was some sort of "Aurora"? I have never seen anything like it and I can't explain it. -- ff |
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Frackshat wrote: I was in Cheltenham, Victoria (Australia), outside looking at the stars. It was about 10:30 pm, Sunday June 4th. Conditions were The power failed in Mordialloc and Aspendale at about that time... And yeah, as others have said, transformers do go off "with a bang", and a fantastic blue flash... -- Scrap the 00 to post direct. "We all should present legal cars. I'm embarrassed we've presented a car that's ineligible." Mark Skaife, Chief Sook, HRT.12/11/04 (It must hurt to say illegal!) "Speed limit near schools lowered to 40 grams per student" - CNNNN |
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