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50-page brochure (Russian and English) about Progress M50
FYI:
A very handsome 50-page brochure (Russian and English) about Progress M50 and background can be downloaded in pdf form from http://www.federalspace.ru/video/Progress_M50_www.pdf Specific mission details (in Russian) can be read at http://www.federalspace.ru/Start1Show.asp?STARTID=574 JimO www.jamesoberg.com |
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50-page brochure (Russian and English) about Progress M50
"Jim Oberg" wrote in message ... FYI: A very handsome 50-page brochure (Russian and English) about Progress M50 and background can be downloaded in pdf form from http://www.federalspace.ru/video/Progress_M50_www.pdf Thanks for the link. It sounds like those "DVD's and magazines" that the popular press reffered to are listed in the payload as part of this: Crew support complex/hardware elements (flight data files, 3 packages for the crew members, video and photographic material) .............................................23 kg Since "video and photographic material" are listed last, I'm guessing that DVD's and magazines don't make up the bulk of that 23 kg. Jeff -- Remove icky phrase from email address to get a valid address. |
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50-page brochure (Russian and English) about Progress M50
"Jeff Findley" wrote:
Since "video and photographic material" are listed last, I'm guessing that DVD's and magazines don't make up the bulk of that 23 kg. In 4-5 kg I imagine you could fit at least 6 medium sized magazines (SI, Time) and an equal number of DVD's. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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50-page brochure (Russian and English) about Progress M50
"Derek Lyons" wrote in message ... "Jeff Findley" wrote: Since "video and photographic material" are listed last, I'm guessing that DVD's and magazines don't make up the bulk of that 23 kg. In 4-5 kg I imagine you could fit at least 6 medium sized magazines (SI, Time) and an equal number of DVD's. I'm really surprised that Bob was bitching about this, considering it's such a small part of the Progress payload. The Russians have had a long standing tradition of sending up such morale boosting personal items to their space stations, so I'm sure they think it's worth the weight. Jeff -- Remove icky phrase from email address to get a valid address. |
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50-page brochure (Russian and English) about Progress M50
I'm really surprised that Bob was bitching about this, considering it's such a small part of the Progress payload. The Russians have had a long standing tradition of sending up such morale boosting personal items to their space stations, so I'm sure they think it's Not really as complaint, under normal circumstances I wouldnt of brought it up. But given the tight supply situation perhaps a space suit part might have been a better choice? HAVE A GREAT DAY! |
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50-page brochure (Russian and English) about Progress M50
"bob haller" wrote in message ... I'm really surprised that Bob was bitching about this, considering it's such a small part of the Progress payload. The Russians have had a long standing tradition of sending up such morale boosting personal items to their space stations, so I'm sure they think it's Not really as complaint, under normal circumstances I wouldnt of brought it up. But given the tight supply situation perhaps a space suit part might have been a better choice? As Derek said in his replies, when times are tough, these morale boosting materials are *more* important. With weight at a premium on the LEM, you still thought that hitting a golf ball on the moon was worth it. On such a short trip, the need for this (in terms of morale) would be far less than on a six month stay on ISS. Jeff -- Remove icky phrase from email address to get a valid address. |
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50-page brochure (Russian and English) about Progress M50
"Jeff Findley" wrote:
"Derek Lyons" wrote in message ... "Jeff Findley" wrote: Since "video and photographic material" are listed last, I'm guessing that DVD's and magazines don't make up the bulk of that 23 kg. In 4-5 kg I imagine you could fit at least 6 medium sized magazines (SI, Time) and an equal number of DVD's. I'm really surprised that Bob was bitching about this, considering it's such a small part of the Progress payload. bob goes out of his way sometimes to find things to bitch about. But this really does fit his pattern. The Russians have had a long standing tradition of sending up such morale boosting personal items to their space stations, so I'm sure they think it's worth the weight. However bob is more interested in the appearance (replacing badly needed supplies with luxury items) than the reality ('luxury' items that help keep the crew sane). D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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50-page brochure (Russian and English) about Progress M50
"Derek Lyons" wrote in message ... However bob is more interested in the appearance (replacing badly needed supplies with luxury items) than the reality ('luxury' items that help keep the crew sane). You've nailed it. I think I'll start calling him Shallow Bob, so I'll never forget his motivation. Jeff -- Remove icky phrase from email address to get a valid address. |
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"Jim Oberg" wrote in message ...
FYI: A very handsome 50-page brochure (Russian and English) about Progress M50 and background can be downloaded in pdf form from http://www.federalspace.ru/video/Progress_M50_www.pdf Specific mission details (in Russian) can be read at http://www.federalspace.ru/Start1Show.asp?STARTID=574 JimO www.jamesoberg.com Nice find. Far more interesting than the fact the ISS crew get magazines and DVDs to me was the Soyuz LV upgrade timeline. While the aurora/onega stuff seems likely to be viewgraph engineering, the Soyuz 2A and 2B and perhaps the Kourou pad seem to be fairly firm. Anyone know if this is true, or just more 'if we had the money' dreaming ? Incidently, the Soyouz 2B gives an extra 1000kg to LEO from Baikonur, which should be plenty for extra heat sheild that the seemingly implausible CSI http://www.constellationservices.com/ plan would require. Hmmm... It is also interesting to see the same LV gets about 2.5x the payload to geostationary from Kourou compaired Baikonur. That should provide an attractive option for medium sized GEO sats. |
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hop wrote:
Incidently, the Soyouz 2B gives an extra 1000kg to LEO from Baikonur, which should be plenty for extra heat sheild that the seemingly implausible CSI http://www.constellationservices.com/ plan would require. Hmmm... I was under the impression that the Soyuz had lower performance now than it used to, as the Soviets used to use Sintin rather than stock Kerosene. The Russians ran out of money to keep Sintin production running sometime in the mid '90s. |
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