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Old December 4th 08, 06:12 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Pat Flannery
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Sounds like a great beginning for a 1950's Sci-Fi movie plot:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28023860/
Seriously, if it is from another star system, this would be worth
getting a sample return mission to.
So we sent out a probe to do a flyby of it... and as the probe
approached, we first saw written on the surface of the comet those words
of terror that could spell the doom of mankind: "Space Battleship Yamato
is destroyed...all your anime are belong to us." :-D
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Old December 4th 08, 06:53 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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Pat Flannery wrote:
Sounds like a great beginning for a 1950's Sci-Fi movie plot:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28023860/
Seriously, if it is from another star system, this would be worth
getting a sample return mission to.
So we sent out a probe to do a flyby of it... and as the probe
approached,....


Hmm. This has all the makings of a "Star Trek" episode. Oh, wait.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masks_(TNG_episode)

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Old December 4th 08, 07:12 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Pat Flannery
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Dave Michelson wrote:

Sounds like a great beginning for a 1950's Sci-Fi movie plot:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28023860/
Seriously, if it is from another star system, this would be worth
getting a sample return mission to.
So we sent out a probe to do a flyby of it... and as the probe
approached,....


Hmm. This has all the makings of a "Star Trek" episode. Oh, wait.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masks_(TNG_episode)


Oh, I remember that one now...they hardly ever re-run it...with good
reason. :-)

Pat
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Old December 5th 08, 04:52 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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On Dec 4, 1:12*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Sounds like a great beginning for a 1950's Sci-Fi movie plot:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28023860/
Seriously, if it is from another star system, this would be worth
getting a sample return mission to.
So we sent out a probe to do a flyby of it... and as the probe
approached, we first saw written on the surface of the comet those words
of terror that could spell the doom of mankind: "Space Battleship Yamato
is destroyed...all your anime are belong to us." :-D


On a more serious note, devoid of any anime nonsense, it seems to me
that the energy requirements to intercept an extrasolar comet on a
hyperbolic trajectory would be too great.
Too much fuel would be needed to even catch up to it.
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Old December 7th 08, 04:46 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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On Dec 5, 12:50*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
wrote:
On a more serious note, devoid of any anime nonsense, it seems to me
that the energy requirements to intercept an extrasolar comet on a
hyperbolic trajectory would be too great.
Too much fuel would be needed to even catch up to it.


This one has entered a short period solar orbit:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/96P/Machholz

Pat


A better source for this information:
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=96P%2FMachholz+1

I do not trust Wikipedia for anything as any bozo can edit it.
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Old December 8th 08, 07:39 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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"OM" wrote in message
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:42:46 -0600, Pat Flannery
wrote:

I've got to get back over there again and see if what I wrote
has been corrected by anyone with the new data on our favorite real
sea
monster


...Or reverted by some teenage limey catamite who thinks s/he owns the
article because they used two dozen sock puppets to vote themselves
admin powers. You'd be surprised at the number of admins who pulled
that stunt to get their admin rights.
OM

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It's off topic ... when I see text like this, I think
it illustrates the kind of family its writer grew up
in. Grew up? Well, I mean in a calendar sense here.

Titeotwawki -- mha [sci.space.policy 2008 Dec 8]


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Old December 6th 08, 04:03 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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" wrote in message
...
On Dec 4, 1:12 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Sounds like a great beginning for a 1950's Sci-Fi movie
plot:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28023860/
Seriously, if it is from another star system, this would be worth
getting a sample return mission to.
So we sent out a probe to do a flyby of it... and as the probe
approached, we first saw written on the surface of the comet those
words
of terror that could spell the doom of mankind: "Space Battleship
Yamato
is destroyed...all your anime are belong to us." :-D


On a more serious note, devoid of any anime nonsense, it seems to me
that the energy requirements to intercept an extrasolar comet on a
hyperbolic trajectory would be too great.
Too much fuel would be needed to even catch up to it.

=======================

And twice over! You joined an object in a hyperbolic
orbit and it's going *out*. So now you must kill your
hyperbolic velocity and develop an appropriate return
orbit, this is going to be a pretty wild mission.

Actually, re that object from another star, how do you
know that's what it is? I'd expect such an object at
first approximation, to be practically indistinguishable
from something local.

Unless, of course, it turned out to be a *made* object,
like a spacecraft or an aldrin cycler kind of thing.

Titeotwawki -- mha [sci.space.policy 2008 Dec 15]


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Old December 7th 08, 03:34 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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On Dec 5, 11:03*pm, "Martha Adams" wrote:
" wrote in message

...
On Dec 4, 1:12 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:

Sounds like a great beginning for a 1950's Sci-Fi movie
plot:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28023860/
Seriously, if it is from another star system, this would be worth
getting a sample return mission to.
So we sent out a probe to do a flyby of it... and as the probe
approached, we first saw written on the surface of the comet those
words
of terror that could spell the doom of mankind: "Space Battleship
Yamato
is destroyed...all your anime are belong to us." :-D


On a more serious note, devoid of any anime nonsense, it seems to me
that the energy requirements to intercept an extrasolar comet on a
hyperbolic trajectory would be too great.
Too much fuel would be needed to even catch up to it.

=======================

And twice over! *You joined an object in a hyperbolic
orbit and it's going *out*. *So now you must kill your
hyperbolic velocity and develop an appropriate return
orbit, this is going to be a pretty wild mission.

Actually, re that object from another star, how do you
know that's what it is? *I'd expect such an object at
first approximation, to be practically indistinguishable
from something local.

Unless, of course, it turned out to be a *made* object,
like a spacecraft or an aldrin cycler kind of thing.

Titeotwawki -- mha *[sci.space.policy 2008 Dec 15]


I would apply Occam's Razor here.
More likely to be a dirty iceball than an artificial object.
 




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