Jet engine Monopoly and the neocon agenda

in my humble opinion and pardon my grammar ,

a) the fact that Senator Lieberman and other neocons in DC insist that
Pratt& Whitney be the sole provider of high power turbofan engines for
the new F-35 as well as F-22,etc.,its not only troublesome and
shortsighted but criminally incompetent to say the least ! , the U.S.
Air Force MUST ALWAYS HAVE CHOICES AND OPTIONS,never addicted to one
single source for top jet engines,never depending on one single
provider, nevermind that some top
executives from P&W - U.T. are neocons from the same religious-
military-political-financial group as the above, and more troublesome
is the fact that the Gift of 30 to 40 billion dollars in Military Aid
to Israel over the next 10 years( besides Loan Guarantees for another
50 billion dollars which never get repaid ) lets that country buy up
to 23 % of weapons from itself, Israel,not the USA, SO THE USA
TAXPAYERS WITH THIS GIFT ARE FINANCING
THEIR OWN COMPETITION !!!!, as we have seen in the high tech. gear in
the F-16 and other weapons sales to India,etc., all these USA weapons
sales include tech. from Israel and not the US, so we are transfering
tech.sales to Israel,take that for dumb-----, but hey ! lets be
REALISTIC! many christian men in DC like to get -------- up their
------- by israelis, what can we do !

2) in the ATT spy case, the complaint by Klein is to distract from
Verizon,which is run by Seidenberg, a partner of Lieberman and Klein
and to focus the attention in ATT and not in Verizon which handles
most of the DC and Congress talk-data-video as well as the Election
Voting data, they are ready to STEAL the elections in 2008, so they
need to keep Verizon and Seidenberg off the radar,even when the 2 ,
ATT and Verizon, handle traffic scanners,but hey ! as long as the
Director of National Intel. office has 2 well known neocon Mossad
working there,we will not be able to have the Director getting the
full picture !,
i hope someone will help Director McConnell clean up office !!!

3) all in all, the Constitution insists on Independence and Free
Speech, but all the neocons in Congress with dual citizenship and dual
countries in their hearts ,faith and interest
are an insult to these Constitutional Rules, its High Treason and a
disaster waiting to happen ! , now the push to atack Iran is due to
the confrontation between Israel and Iran, why are USA soldiers going
to die for a conflict between 2 other countries? why ? let the
israelis and the iranians solve their fanatic problems among them,LET
THE MULLAHS AND THE RABBIS SOLVE THEIR RELIGIOUS PROBLEMS ON THEIR
OWN,and if christian Congress members in the USA feel the need,let
them go fight themselves !!! ,but the neocons in DC are very
smart,they will send the USA soldiers to die in Iran while they and
their family members buy stock in Military and Security - H.S.
Contractors, they are not stupid ! , and to think that the USA is
doing what fits the interest of another country first,its criminal
and High Treason !

the USA can have Hydrogen fuelcells in every ship,train,truck and
plane in a few years if Congress wants to, the USA can be E-85 ethanol
energy independent if Congress wants to, the USA can have
solar,wind,water and geothermal energy freedom if Congress wants
to,if they dont do it,we need a new Congress ! because Energy
Independence and Religious Independence are the key to our future .

On Aug 19, 11:36 am, fusion wrote:

the USA can have Hydrogen fuelcells in every ship,train,truck and
plane in a few years if Congress wants to, the USA can be E-85 ethanol
energy independent if Congress wants to, the USA can have
solar,wind,water and geothermal energy freedom if Congress wants
to,if they dont do it,we need a new Congress ! because Energy
Independence and Religious Independence are the key to our future .

But lo and behold, how can them Zion Yids profit and otherwise start
WWIII if we actually do all of that nifty stuff? (especially if H2O2
is getting home brewed from locally established renewable energy
that's off-grid)
- Brad Guth

fusion wrote:
a) the fact that Senator Lieberman and other neocons in DC insist that
Pratt& Whitney be the sole provider of high power turbofan engines for
the new F-35 as well as F-22,etc.,its not only troublesome and
shortsighted but criminally incompetent to say the least !

Putting any other engine in it will mean redesigning the aircraft's
internal layout, as well as plumbing and wiring.
The only reason to put an alternate engine in them would be if the
selected engine didn't meet specifications in some way, or the alternate
engine was superior to it to a significant degree.

Pat

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:36:36 -0700, fusion
wrote:

in my humble opinion and pardon my grammar ,

a) the fact that Senator Lieberman and other neocons in DC insist that
Pratt& Whitney be the sole provider of high power turbofan engines for
the new F-35 as well as F-22,etc.,its not only troublesome and
shortsighted but criminally incompetent to say the least !


This is obviously going to come to a complete suprise to you but with
the exception of the F-16 (and to a MUCH lesser degree the F-15 and
F-14) just about EVERY MILITARY AIRCRAFT DESIGNED ALMOST ANYWHERE ONLY
HAS A SINGLE TYPE OF ENGINE. How about educating yourself on the
topic before delivering a long-winded post full of bull****?

Scott Ferrin wrote:
This is obviously going to come to a complete suprise to you but with
the exception of the F-16 (and to a MUCH lesser degree the F-15 and
F-14) just about EVERY MILITARY AIRCRAFT DESIGNED ALMOST ANYWHERE ONLY
HAS A SINGLE TYPE OF ENGINE. How about educating yourself on the
topic before delivering a long-winded post full of bull****?


What hit me as odd was here's someone who thinks neocons are against
defense spending. ;-)

Pat

Pat Flannery wrote:


Scott Ferrin wrote:

This is obviously going to come to a complete suprise to you but with
the exception of the F-16 (and to a MUCH lesser degree the F-15 and
F-14) just about EVERY MILITARY AIRCRAFT DESIGNED ALMOST ANYWHERE ONLY
HAS A SINGLE TYPE OF ENGINE. How about educating yourself on the
topic before delivering a long-winded post full of bull****?



What hit me as odd was here's someone who thinks neocons are against
defense spending.

Or that someone as screamingly liberal as Lieberman is a "neocon."
Unless, of course, you use "neocon" in the sense most often employed by
left-wing pundits: "dirty rotten Jewboy who disagrees with me."

Scott Lowther wrote:

Or that someone as screamingly liberal as Lieberman is a "neocon."
Unless, of course, you use "neocon" in the sense most often employed
by left-wing pundits: "dirty rotten Jewboy who disagrees with me."

From National Lampoon in the late 1970's: "Liberal - a person who
thinks all wars are immoral unless started by Israel."
Lieberman is in the interesting position of being trusted by neither
party at the moment, and it will be interesting to see what happens to him.
I am musing over the odd coincidence of "September Dawn" - a movie
about the Mormon slaughter of some pioneers back in the 1800's - coming
out at the same time Mitt Romney is running for president; but I'm sure
that just like "The Right Stuff" coming out when Glenn was running for
president, and "300" coming out when the powers that be were pushing for
war with Iran/Persia, this is merely a coincidence. :-)

Pat

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:07:29 -0500, in a place far, far away, Pat
Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:



Scott Lowther wrote:

Or that someone as screamingly liberal as Lieberman is a "neocon."
Unless, of course, you use "neocon" in the sense most often employed
by left-wing pundits: "dirty rotten Jewboy who disagrees with me."

From National Lampoon in the late 1970's: "Liberal - a person who
thinks all wars are immoral unless started by Israel."

Wow, is that definition out of date. Now it's almost the opposite.