Moon dust that you don’t want in your eyes

On Dec 10, 9:44*pm, BradGuth wrote:

So, you don't believe in the regular laws of physics, or much less in
the best available science that's independently peer replicated . *Is
that another one of those pretend-Atheism things?

Does not compute? What on earth are you on about now?

Have you been at those shards again?

Lunar rocks show sodium depletion but you could build one hell of a
titanium rocket!

I wish somebody would explain how a lunar rock was turned over before
it was found after resting for billions of years the other way up.
It's those pesky alien sodium miners, I'll bet.

Atheism is not about pretence. It's about not pretending at all.

If an atheist has a faith value of 0 then negative atheism is
completely meaningless.

Would they go around being negative about their atheism?

As in: "Oh wow, Man! I feel so depressed. My faith in atheism is
really waning today."

I'll settle for 0. It's a nice round figure and completely sealed
against any superstitious thoughts getting into my bubble.

On Dec 11, 4:54 am, "Chris.B" wrote:
On Dec 10, 9:44 pm, BradGuth wrote:



So, you don't believe in the regular laws of physics, or much less in
the best available science that's independently peer replicated . Is
that another one of those pretend-Atheism things?

Does not compute? What on earth are you on about now?

1e18 kg of moon dust and it's content of sodium that's going away
faster than it arrives.


Have you been at those shards again?

Shards and dust combined might just amount to 1e19 kg. Up to 40% of
those impact generated basalt shards ended up on Earth, because you
have to believe that out Selene/moon has nearly always been with
Earth.


Lunar rocks show sodium depletion but you could build one hell of a
titanium rocket!

What the hell are you talking about? There's no titanium in that
extended lunar atmosphere, or that of its comet like tail. That
physically dark as coal surface should however be loaded with raw
titanium, though rather odd that so much of those heavy elements are
upon or within that crystal dry and dusty surface, and not otherwise
within the core. Say again what the buoyancy or specific gravity of
titanium is, as opposed to sodium.

Earth and moon basalts are somewhat similar, as are most all cosmic
forms of basalt that contain a wide variety of complex elements. In
other words, it's hard to tell the origin of one basalt from another,
unless the origin of each was specifically observed and objectively
recorded. However, because of local gravity, it's highly unlikely
that Earth basalts ever ended up on our moon.


I wish somebody would explain how a lunar rock was turned over before
it was found after resting for billions of years the other way up.
It's those pesky alien sodium miners, I'll bet.

Perhaps it was just another one of those guano island situations that
can't ever be explained, without someone having to pay the ultimate
price.


Atheism is not about pretence. It's about not pretending at all.

Pretend-Atheism is what represents 99.9% of Usenet/newsgroups,
including all rabbis here that are by far the most pretend-Atheist.
It's just another way of their continually lying on behalf of their
God.


If an atheist has a faith value of 0 then negative atheism is
completely meaningless.

Pretend or negative Atheism are pretty much the same, as they each
allow freedom to topic/author stalk and bash without ever a stitch of
remorse.


Would they go around being negative about their atheism?

As in: "Oh wow, Man! I feel so depressed. My faith in atheism is
really waning today."

I'll settle for 0. It's a nice round figure and completely sealed
against any superstitious thoughts getting into my bubble.

Pretend all you like, because it's the mainstream status quo thing to
do, especially nowadays, that remains cloaked in their Atheism until
they run for an elected office.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

On Dec 10, 2:23*am, BradGuth wrote:
snip

I say nothing of the sort.

I merely play your hormone strings for personal pleasure and
amusement.

Your supposedly, considered responses are merely manipulative over-
reactions to repeated dopamine rewards for virtual, random symbol,
typing efforts.

Denial is pointless.

End of session

On Dec 12, 1:00 pm, "Chris.B" wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:23 am, BradGuth wrote:
snip

I say nothing of the sort.

I merely play your hormone strings for personal pleasure and
amusement.

Your supposedly, considered responses are merely manipulative over-
reactions to repeated dopamine rewards for virtual, random symbol,
typing efforts.

Denial is pointless.

End of session

Your Hitler and his Zionist/Nazi cabal would have said the exact same
thing, so you're not alone.

~ BG

On Dec 12, 10:08*pm, BradGuth wrote:

Your Hitler and his Zionist/Nazi cabal would have said the exact same
thing, so you're not alone.

Hardly. Though I note your recognition of the Palestinian ghettos and
the horrific parallels.

All it needs now is for the Orthodox Jews to start building gas ovens
on the occupied territories and they will prove their malevolence
beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Will Obama finally pull the carpet from under their hypocrisy?

Read January's exciting episode:

On Dec 13, 12:27 pm, "Chris.B" wrote:
On Dec 12, 10:08 pm, BradGuth wrote:



Your Hitler and his Zionist/Nazi cabal would have said the exact same
thing, so you're not alone.

Hardly. Though I note your recognition of the Palestinian ghettos and
the horrific parallels.

All it needs now is for the Orthodox Jews to start building gas ovens
on the occupied territories and they will prove their malevolence
beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Will Obama finally pull the carpet from under their hypocrisy?

Read January's exciting episode:

Not unless he wears a full-body flack suit and keeps his entire family
out of sight. JFK had tried to pull a few plugs, including his own
NASA/Apollo plug.

Zionist/Nazi Jews are not going down without a good fight, even if it
has to be via false flags and if global war(s) until the very last of
their kind is left standing.

~ BG

There’s always the kind of Selene/moon dust that you don’t want in
your eyes, or getting into anything else.

If you must believe the moon has always been with Earth, and mostly
created from Earth, that it was never a captured planetoid and having
never been covered by any thick layer of salty ice, then by now
there's at least 1e18 kg of dust and/or other substantial
accumulations upon its 3.8e13 m2 surface. Do the math.

Our Selene/moon currently receives 12~18e3 t/yr, most of which sticks
with that highly reactive and unavoidably electrostatic charged
surface. Of course going way back in time is what makes for an
extremely crystal dry and otherwise extra dusty old moon. By now our
naked Selene/moon should have collected solids upwards of 1e18 kg (on
average that’s 2.63e4 kg/m2). Now that’s some kind of dusty
environment, especially since most of that crystal dry substance is
going to be found within natural terrain basin areas and of course
within craters, as for having dry flowed or migrated onto such
relatively flat surfaces that might tend to suggest our future fly-by-
rocket landers as having to cope with such a crystal dry and otherwise
fluffy/uncompacted surface of 5e4 kg/m2. (perhaps those landers will
need extremely long legs, a good periscope and the antistatic coating
of Po210)

In spite of all the electrostatic/ionic charged dust, cosmic gamma,
solar X-rays and of Selene’s naked anticathode reactive nature,
whereas our Selene/moon as relocated to Earth L1 and then having its
continuous day/night terminator used for surface and underground
habitats is something we can eventually do. Easy, not hardly, but
highly beneficial to the environment of Earth and otherwise for
properly utilizing our Selene/moon for all it’s worth.

Our Selene/moon offers loads of internal pressures and otherwise
terrific surface day/night thermal differentials, though it's naked
surface is also offering more of a nifty energy worth of vacuum to go
along with that extreme thermal differentia, receiving its 100%
renewable 1.4 kw/m2 plus having all that local secondary IR to work
with (ideal for Stirling engines that can use all the thermal
differential they can get).

Imagine our extremely unusual Selene/moon as having been relocated to
the station-keeping halo orbit of Earth L1, and of what one could then
accomplish on behalf of salvaging the frail environment of Earth, and
of otherwise our living rather efficiently within suitable habitats
constructed along or if need be underground within the day/night
terminator (all 10,900 km worth of it), not to mention the other 256e6
tonne LSE-CM/ISS as tethered to/from the new and improved Earth-moon
L1 (Selene/moon L1) as having a cold but nicely earthshine illuminated
vacuum of 1e-21 bar to offer.

The average lunar density of 3.346 g/cm3 is suggesting of a fairly low
density mantle interior that’s below a relatively thick and robust
basalt crust that’s chuck full of heavy mineral solids and those raw
gaseous elements, though apparently including water @260 ppm, and
otherwise having loads of raw sodium, nearly unlimited oxygen,
hydrogen and helium (as in He3) plus any number of easily accessible
radioactive mineral substances such as thorium. The average lunar
crust density could offer an impressive 8(+/-4) g/cm3, an impressive
range of 4 to 12 g/cm3, whereas the upper interior mantle as little as
3(+/-1) g/cm3, and perhaps somewhat less density inside of that, along
with having little if any iron core if not offering a somewhat geode
balloon like hollow center created by the geothermal environment and
reactive minerals.

Could the frail DNA of mere humans survive within the moon?
(technically I don’t see why not)

Even those habitats created near the surface should become livable and
expandable via robotic digging machines that’ll not mind such an
abrasive, volatile and otherwise anticathode and ionic charged dust
environment. At least it looks as though India is on the right set of
tracks.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

On Dec 14, 2:56 pm, BradGuth wrote:
There’s always the kind of Selene/moon dust that you don’t want in
your eyes, or getting into anything else.

If you must believe the moon has always been with Earth, and mostly
created from Earth, that it was never a captured planetoid and having
never been covered by any thick layer of salty ice, then by now
there's at least 1e18 kg of dust and/or other substantial
accumulations upon its 3.8e13 m2 surface. Do the math.

Our Selene/moon currently receives 12~18e3 t/yr, most of which sticks
with that highly reactive and unavoidably electrostatic charged
surface. Of course going way back in time is what makes for an
extremely crystal dry and otherwise extra dusty old moon. By now our
naked Selene/moon should have collected solids upwards of 1e18 kg (on
average that’s 2.63e4 kg/m2). Now that’s some kind of dusty
environment, especially since most of that crystal dry substance is
going to be found within natural terrain basin areas and of course
within craters, as for having dry flowed or migrated onto such
relatively flat surfaces that might tend to suggest our future fly-by-
rocket landers as having to cope with such a crystal dry and otherwise
fluffy/uncompacted surface of 5e4 kg/m2. (perhaps those landers will
need extremely long legs, a good periscope and the antistatic coating
of Po210)

In spite of all the electrostatic/ionic charged dust, cosmic gamma,
solar X-rays and of Selene’s naked anticathode reactive nature,
whereas our Selene/moon as relocated to Earth L1 and then having its
continuous day/night terminator used for surface and underground
habitats is something we can eventually do. Easy, not hardly, but
highly beneficial to the environment of Earth and otherwise for
properly utilizing our Selene/moon for all it’s worth.

Our Selene/moon offers loads of internal pressures and otherwise
terrific surface day/night thermal differentials, though it's naked
surface is also offering more of a nifty energy worth of vacuum to go
along with that extreme thermal differentia, receiving its 100%
renewable 1.4 kw/m2 plus having all that local secondary IR to work
with (ideal for Stirling engines that can use all the thermal
differential they can get).

Imagine our extremely unusual Selene/moon as having been relocated to
the station-keeping halo orbit of Earth L1, and of what one could then
accomplish on behalf of salvaging the frail environment of Earth, and
of otherwise our living rather efficiently within suitable habitats
constructed along or if need be underground within the day/night
terminator (all 10,900 km worth of it), not to mention the other 256e6
tonne LSE-CM/ISS as tethered to/from the new and improved Earth-moon
L1 (Selene/moon L1) as having a cold but nicely earthshine illuminated
vacuum of 1e-21 bar to offer.

The average lunar density of 3.346 g/cm3 is suggesting of a fairly low
density mantle interior that’s below a relatively thick and robust
basalt crust that’s chuck full of heavy mineral solids and those raw
gaseous elements, though apparently including water @260 ppm, and
otherwise having loads of raw sodium, nearly unlimited oxygen,
hydrogen and helium (as in He3) plus any number of easily accessible
radioactive mineral substances such as thorium. The average lunar
crust density could offer an impressive 8(+/-4) g/cm3, an impressive
range of 4 to 12 g/cm3, whereas the upper interior mantle as little as
3(+/-1) g/cm3, and perhaps somewhat less density inside of that, along
with having little if any iron core if not offering a somewhat geode
balloon like hollow center created by the geothermal environment and
reactive minerals.

Could the frail DNA of mere humans survive within the moon?
(technically I don’t see why not)

Even those habitats created near the surface should become livable and
expandable via robotic digging machines that’ll not mind such an
abrasive, volatile and otherwise anticathode and ionic charged dust
environment. At least it looks as though India is on the right set of
tracks.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Either our Selene/moon has its fair share of salt, or it doesn’t.
Either way, I believe it’s continually bleeding off the sodium half of
whatever’s a mineral chloride salt or otherwise in raw metallic
mineral form by at least 100,000 tonnes per year. At 3e-15 bar, salt
of nearly any chloride mineral induced color is going to start boiling
off or rather vapor phase shifting away at 800+°C, such as easily
caused by way of meteor and even solar proton impacts. However, raw
sodium isn’t going to take all that much above 371 K (98°C), other
than good old sunshine of which our naked Selene/moon has far more
than its fair share, especially once taking the local secondary/recoil
IR into account.

A portion of our moon and its thick dust is sodium (Na is half of what
makes up common NaCI/salt), at least other than by nighttime when it’s
cool enough to remain as a crystal dry metallic solid rather than
becoming a vapor which contributes to the more than million
atmospheric and comet trail tonnes which then remains ionized and
sustained within a 9r atmosphere, plus otherwise included within a
nearly 1e6 km extension of its solar wind blown tail. Unfortunately,
a narrow bandpass optical filter and sensitive film or CCD camera is
necessary in order to observe and thus fully appreciate the extent of
this ionic charged sodium, as it seems most geophysically active
planets should offer sodium.

At least a few days each month is when Earth unavoidably passes
directly through this trail of sodium, and essentially interrupts and
thereby absorbs a portion of this sodium, similar to the 19 month
cycle of our passing through the solar wind blown tail of sodium and
other particles from Venus.

Sodium is actually a highly undesirable mineral for any future robotic
missions to contend with, especially as it sublimes from a cool solid
to a hot and ionic charged vapor and then once cooled by whatever
shade goes back into a solid, as would happen whatever given a solar
and secondary IR exposure gets applied to one side and otherwise
becomes shaded and made cooler on the other side of a given machine,
as such would allow this hot ionized sodium to migrate into places
where it could cause technical complications and subsequent
consequences, not that other elements of this highly electrostatic/
ionized environment of hot and cold moon dust is going to be all that
friendly.

The following analogy as to that of moon salt, half of which is
sodium, is just another deductive way of my explaining how extremely
complex and unique (meaning one of a kind) our Selene/moon actually
is.

Our Selene/moon w/ionized sodium:
A grain of NaCI(salt) = 1.2e18 atoms (half are sodium)
http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae342.cfm
A grain of salt (6.48e-2 g) contains about:
5.85e-5 gr/ (29.25 gr/ 6.02e23) = 1.2e18 atoms, half of which are
sodium atoms. (other half being chlorine atoms)

Within 9r (15,642 km), there are 1.6e22 m3 = 1.6e28 cm3
Given an average saturation of 100 atoms/cm3 = 1.6e30 NaCI atoms

1.6e30 / .6e18 = 2.667e12 grains of salt

2.667e12 * 6.48e-2 = 17.28e10 g = 17.28e7 kg = 173e3 tonnes of
salt (half of which is sodium).

Therefore, of what’s entirely surrounding Selene, we are looking at
86,500 tonnes of sodium at the average saturation of perhaps 50 Na
atoms/cm3 (not including its 1e6 km comet like tail of sodium) as
what’s surrounding and trailing our Selene/moon at any given day or
night. Since there’s no protective magnetosphere means that this
amount of sodium may need to be continually replenished, sufficiently
so as to maintain the volume of sodium that’s surrounding and
otherwise solar wind blown as a sodium tail that’s nearly 1e6 km in
length.

Sodium comet tail volume of 1.5e24 m3 = 1.5e30 cm3
At the average NaCI density of 20 atoms/cm3 = 3e31 atoms

3e31 / .6e18 = 5e13 grains of salt.
5e13 * 6.48e-2 = 13.24e12 g = 3.24e9 kg = 3.24e6 tonnes of salt
(half of which is sodium).

All inclusive, we’re looking at a considerable volume and subsequent
mass of 3.24e6 tonnes of salt at 20 atoms/cm3, or 1.62e6 tonnes of
pure sodium at 10 Na atoms/cm3 that has been sustained within the
Selene/moon comet tail, plus the other 9r of the sodium atmosphere
that’s worth 50 Na atoms/cm3 is what amounts to roughly a conservative
1.7 million tonnes of sodium that has to be continually replenished,
perhaps per year. Therefore, even though there’s a physical meteor/
comet and misc other influx of 12,000 tonnes/year, it seems our
Selene/moon that’s w/o a protective magnetosphere has essentially been
losing mass.

Another run at these numbers might come up with a little +/- different
SWAG, but not likely by enough to ever suggest that our Selene/moon
hasn’t been losing mass. Of course those in charge of topic/author
stalking and bashing are never going to let this or anything else
rest, simply because it’s not officially scripted within their DARPA
and NASA/Apollo package deal.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”