Lunar Broadband

http://www.astrobio.net/news-brief/l...and-providers/

Bouncing laser signals off of dead satellites whose orbital parameters are known, using a pair of GPS enabled telescopes from the surface is possible under good weather conditions. 600 MB/sec is easily attained.

A store and forward system in combination with a local meshnet, provides the capability to displace the internet, should it ever go down or be shut off or constrained in any way.

I have started a company to build a small array of laser satellites and deploy them at Lagrange Point 1. To provide the ultimate off-world cloud.

http://firstlunar.com/

In article ,
says...

http://www.astrobio.net/news-brief/l...and-providers/

Bouncing laser signals off of dead satellites whose orbital parameters
are known

This makes no sense to me (perhaps because it is 5:50 a.m. local time
and I've had little coffee). But, even if you hit the dead satellite,
you achieve what? Scattering of the laser light?

, using a pair of GPS enabled telescopes from the surface is possible
under good weather conditions. 600 MB/sec is easily attained.

A store and forward system in combination with a local meshnet, provides the capability to displace the internet, should it ever go down or be shut off or constrained in any way.

I have started a company to build a small array of laser satellites and deploy them at Lagrange Point 1. To provide the ultimate off-world cloud.

http://firstlunar.com/

Congrats on buying a domain name and putting up a web page. The rest of
what you've posted above is your usual gibberish.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 9:53:15 PM UTC+12, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,
says...

http://www.astrobio.net/news-brief/l...and-providers/

Bouncing laser signals off of dead satellites whose orbital parameters
are known

This makes no sense to me (perhaps because it is 5:50 a.m. local time
and I've had little coffee). But, even if you hit the dead satellite,
you achieve what? Scattering of the laser light?

That's right. Scattered light is picked up by a telescope and drives a phototransistor similar to troposcatter and cloud bounce.

http://www.k3pgp.org/laserscatter.htm

http://drdo.res.in:8080/alpha/drdo/d...plications.pdf

You can even do moon bounce with laser.

http://www.space.com/20865-soviet-mo...hod-laser.html


, using a pair of GPS enabled telescopes from the surface is possible
under good weather conditions. 600 MB/sec is easily attained.

A store and forward system in combination with a local meshnet, provides the capability to displace the internet, should it ever go down or be shut off or constrained in any way.

I have started a company to build a small array of laser satellites and deploy them at Lagrange Point 1. To provide the ultimate off-world cloud.

http://firstlunar.com/

Congrats on buying a domain name and putting up a web page.

Thanks.

The rest of
what you've posted above is your usual gibberish.

Your comment is absolute rubbish! The Server Sky concept works well with either microwave or laser carriers.

http://spacejournal.ohio.edu/issue16/lofstrom.html

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

In article ,
says...

On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 9:53:15 PM UTC+12, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,
says...

http://www.astrobio.net/news-brief/l...and-providers/

Bouncing laser signals off of dead satellites whose orbital parameters
are known

This makes no sense to me (perhaps because it is 5:50 a.m. local time
and I've had little coffee). But, even if you hit the dead satellite,
you achieve what? Scattering of the laser light?

That's right. Scattered light is picked up by a telescope and drives a phototransistor similar to troposcatter and cloud bounce.

http://www.k3pgp.org/laserscatter.htm

http://drdo.res.in:8080/alpha/drdo/d...plications.pdf

Random paper about lasers noted.

You can even do moon bounce with laser.

http://www.space.com/20865-soviet-mo...hod-laser.html

From the article above: "the rover toted a French-built laser retro-
reflector consisting of 14 corner cubes that can reflect laser light
beamed from Earth."

That was bouncing light off a precision built *retro-reflector*. You
are claiming you can create a communications network by bouncing laser
light off of random space junk (that will scatter the light instead of
reflecting it).

Things that are different just aren't the same you ignorant git!!!!


, using a pair of GPS enabled telescopes from the surface is possible
under good weather conditions. 600 MB/sec is easily attained.

A store and forward system in combination with a local meshnet, provides the capability to displace the internet, should it ever go down or be shut off or constrained in any way.

I have started a company to build a small array of laser satellites and deploy them at Lagrange Point 1. To provide the ultimate off-world cloud.

http://firstlunar.com/

Congrats on buying a domain name and putting up a web page.

Thanks.

The rest of
what you've posted above is your usual gibberish.

Your comment is absolute rubbish! The Server Sky concept works well with either microwave or laser carriers.

http://spacejournal.ohio.edu/issue16/lofstrom.html

They propose communications using microwave communication between
purpose built spacecraft. You're asserting it will work just as well
with lasers by bouncing the laser beams off of random space junk. That
is a laughable claim.

Things that are different just aren't the same you ignorant git!!!!

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 8:06:39 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
William Mook wrote:

On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 9:53:15 PM UTC+12, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,

The rest of
what you've posted above is your usual gibberish.

Your comment is absolute rubbish! The Server Sky concept works well with either microwave or laser carriers.


Oh, does it, now? And you proved that how? By scribbling on napkins
with a crayon?

Well, a good place to start is this 2005 paper;

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login...mber%3D1402496

Which resulted in the construction of actual swarms of robots;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK54Bu9HFRw

Which can do useful work with the right actuators;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnkMyfQ5YfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvN9Ri1GmuY

And are the basis of swarms of nano-satellites that achieve various ends, including communications arrays.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...70963812001253

Which have important impact on those interested in investing in off-world infrastructure.

http://www.financialsense.com/contri...nanosatellites




http://spacejournal.ohio.edu/issue16/lofstrom.html


And he's never built one, either.

You're clueless.

Zachary Manchester, a graduate student at Cornell has built a large number of tiny satellites at $25 per unit. Postage-stamp sized satellites are orbiting the Earth.

Nioki Shinohara of Kyoto University was invited by IEEE in 2013 to produce a paper describing work he is doing with phased array microwave power transmission from space.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/sta...number=6495699

Obviously, the same techniques that form well defined beams of microwaves can be used to form well defined beams of laser energy, and information as well as energy can be transmitted and received as well.

Jordin Kare is developing similar techniques using lasers instead of microwaves at his company, Lasermotive

http://lasermotive.com/

Goncalo Rodriguesa , Renaud Bastaitsa , Stephane Rooseb , Yvan Stockmanb ,
Sylvia Gebhardtc , Andreas Schoeneckerc , Pierre Villond and Andre Preumonta
at the Universite Libre de Bruxelles in conjunction with Centre Spatiale de Liege and the Fraunhofer Institut fur Keramische Technologien und Systeme, and
Universite de Technologie de Compiegne completed construction of a network of mirrors that operated as an optical phased array to focus laser energy. This will eventually be flown as a swarm of nano satellites.

https://www.academia.edu/5198058/Ada...orph_ Mirrors



--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 11:31:35 AM UTC-4, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 9:53:15 PM UTC+12, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,
says...

http://www.astrobio.net/news-brief/l...and-providers/

Bouncing laser signals off of dead satellites whose orbital parameters
are known

This makes no sense to me (perhaps because it is 5:50 a.m. local time
and I've had little coffee). But, even if you hit the dead satellite,
you achieve what? Scattering of the laser light?

That's right. Scattered light is picked up by a telescope and drives a phototransistor similar to troposcatter and cloud bounce.

http://www.k3pgp.org/laserscatter.htm

http://drdo.res.in:8080/alpha/drdo/d...plications.pdf

Random paper about lasers noted.

About laser scatter. Which is what happens when lasers bounce off of things.


You can even do moon bounce with laser.

http://www.space.com/20865-soviet-mo...hod-laser.html

From the article above: "the rover toted a French-built laser retro-
reflector consisting of 14 corner cubes that can reflect laser light
beamed from Earth."

Yes, and last time I checked, no one has gone to remove it or spray painted it over with black paint. Ditto with the JAXA EGS

http://global.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/egs/

That was bouncing light off a precision built *retro-reflector*.

Yep, and anyone with a telescope and laser can do that. Anyone with the right equipment can bounce messages off the moon doing that.

You
are claiming you can create a communications network by bouncing laser
light off of random space junk

I didn't say random space junk. I said dead satellites.

The retroreflector here, and many other retroreflectors on orbit, is space junk.

(that will scatter the light instead of
reflecting it).

Scattering works too at lesser range and lower bandwidth and higher powers.


Things that are different just aren't the same you ignorant git!!!!

You're projecting again! You fail to understand something I say, and then think I'm the ignorant one because you can never ever admit anyone no more than you do. lol. Seek help. You need it, truly.



, using a pair of GPS enabled telescopes from the surface is possible
under good weather conditions. 600 MB/sec is easily attained.

A store and forward system in combination with a local meshnet, provides the capability to displace the internet, should it ever go down or be shut off or constrained in any way.

I have started a company to build a small array of laser satellites and deploy them at Lagrange Point 1. To provide the ultimate off-world cloud.

http://firstlunar.com/

Congrats on buying a domain name and putting up a web page.

Thanks.

The rest of
what you've posted above is your usual gibberish.

Your comment is absolute rubbish! The Server Sky concept works well with either microwave or laser carriers.

http://spacejournal.ohio.edu/issue16/lofstrom.html

They propose communications using microwave communication between
purpose built spacecraft.

Yes.

You're asserting it will work just as well
with lasers by bouncing the laser beams off of random space junk.

No.

That
is a laughable claim.

Your assertion and conclusion is laughable certainly. That you attribute such to me, is a measure of your insanity.

Things that are different just aren't the same you ignorant git!!!!

A tautology that has no bearing whatever on what I've addressed here.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 7:35:57 PM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
William Mook wrote:

On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 8:06:39 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
William Mook wrote:

On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 9:53:15 PM UTC+12, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,

The rest of
what you've posted above is your usual gibberish.

Your comment is absolute rubbish! The Server Sky concept works well with either microwave or laser carriers.


Oh, does it, now? And you proved that how? By scribbling on napkins
with a crayon?

Well, a good place to start is this 2005 paper;

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login...mber%3D1402496


Theoretical handwaving.

What's handwaving to a moron like you is actually useful to engineers who understand a thing.


Which resulted in the construction of actual swarms of robots;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK54Bu9HFRw


Lab toys.

What's lab toys to an idiot like you are actually useful test articles to engineers who understand a thing.

Which can do useful work with the right actuators;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnkMyfQ5YfY


Irrelevant and not on point.

What's irrelevant to the brain dead like you is highly relevant to those engineers who have a deep and rich understanding of a subject.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvN9Ri1GmuY


Again irrelevant and not on point.

Again, you're abject lack of knowledge makes it only seem so to you. For those with real engineering and scientific understanding, it is again highly relevant.


And are the basis of swarms of nano-satellites that achieve various ends, including communications arrays.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...70963812001253


Handwavium.

Nonsense.


Which have important impact on those interested in investing in off-world infrastructure.

http://www.financialsense.com/contri...nanosatellites


More handwavium.

Why do you think anyone gives a damn what an ignoramus like you thinks about this? lol.




http://spacejournal.ohio.edu/issue16/lofstrom.html


And he's never built one, either.

You're clueless.


And you can't read.

You're projecting again! You're the one who doesn't understand the relevance and importance of the information I've kindly provided, and you think I'm the one who can't read because YOU'RE the one who is CONFUSED! lol.


Zachary Manchester, a graduate student at Cornell has built a large number of tiny satellites at $25 per unit. Postage-stamp sized satellites are orbiting the Earth.


Well, no, they aren't.

Yes they are.

They were lost.

The one's in the article were lost. Other postage stamp sized satellites have been orbited.

And they're a toy experiment.

Actually they're quite significant. EVERY thought leader in the INDUSTRY understands this. Of course YOU DON'T, so you think its OUR problem! lol.


And he's not Lofstrom.

You don't know Lofstrom's client list do you?


Nioki Shinohara of Kyoto University was invited by IEEE in 2013 to produce a paper describing work he is doing with phased array microwave power transmission from space.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/sta...number=6495699


You noticed PAPER, right?

You noticed IEEE.ORG right?


Obviously, the same techniques that form well defined beams of microwaves can be used to form well defined beams of laser energy, and information as well as energy can be transmitted and received as well.


Preposterous notion

Actually its well founded in the physics of waves.

demonstrating your total lack of understand

You're the one ignorant of the application of the Rayleigh Criterion in this case and how arrays of elements may be used to create an optically perfect system from these elements.

of
both microwaves and lasers.

I've built both microwave systems and laser systems for space application. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.


Jordin Kare is developing similar techniques using lasers instead of microwaves at his company, Lasermotive

http://lasermotive.com/

Goncalo Rodriguesa , Renaud Bastaitsa , Stephane Rooseb , Yvan Stockmanb ,
Sylvia Gebhardtc , Andreas Schoeneckerc , Pierre Villond and Andre Preumonta
at the Universite Libre de Bruxelles in conjunction with Centre Spatiale de Liege and the Fraunhofer Institut fur Keramische Technologien und Systeme, and
Universite de Technologie de Compiegne completed construction of a network of mirrors that operated as an optical phased array to focus laser energy. This will eventually be flown as a swarm of nano satellites.

https://www.academia.edu/5198058/Ada...orph_ Mirrors


Things that are different are not the same, Mookie.

An unapplicable tautology applied to your ignorance is unapplicable and leaves you ignorant.


--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson

Funny sig - from someone so thoroughly in error due to his ignorance.

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 2:53:12 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
William Mook wrote:

On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 7:35:57 PM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
William Mook wrote:

On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 8:06:39 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
William Mook wrote:

On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 9:53:15 PM UTC+12, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,

The rest of
what you've posted above is your usual gibberish.

Your comment is absolute rubbish! The Server Sky concept works well with either microwave or laser carriers.


Oh, does it, now? And you proved that how? By scribbling on napkins
with a crayon?

Well, a good place to start is this 2005 paper;

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login...mber%3D1402496


Theoretical handwaving.

What's handwaving to a moron like you is actually useful to engineers who understand a thing.


Mookie, you wouldn't know an engineer if you tripped over one.

I know you're a **** poor one pretending to know things you don't.




Which resulted in the construction of actual swarms of robots;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK54Bu9HFRw


Lab toys.

What's lab toys to an idiot like you are actually useful test articles to engineers who understand a thing.


Mookie, you wouldn't know an engineer if you tripped over one.

You have nothing of real substance to say, which is why you repeat yourself so much.

The original thought expressed by my original post stands. Namely, that compact lightweight satellite arrays can be deployed in space that permit broadband communications to users on Earth, and permit and off world solar powered cloud operating totally independently of Earth bound concerns.

This is the essence of Server Sky, and it is what I am building here in New Zealand.

Which can do useful work with the right actuators;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnkMyfQ5YfY


Irrelevant and not on point.

What's irrelevant to the brain dead like you is highly relevant to those engineers who have a deep and rich understanding of a subject.


Mookie, you wouldn't know an engineer if you tripped over one.

Real engineers are thoughtful and responsive to real data. This means they can vary their responses to situations in an intelligent manner. You obviously cannot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvN9Ri1GmuY


Again irrelevant and not on point.

Again, you're abject lack of knowledge makes it only seem so to you. For those with real engineering and scientific understanding, it is again highly relevant.


Mookie, you wouldn't know an engineer if you tripped over one.

yawn Yet, my objection to your point here stands, and your objection falls.


And are the basis of swarms of nano-satellites that achieve various ends, including communications arrays.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...70963812001253


Handwavium.

Nonsense.


Yes, that too.

You're the one who is spouting nonsense about a peer reviewed article you obviously haven't read with understanding.


Which have important impact on those interested in investing in off-world infrastructure.

http://www.financialsense.com/contri...nanosatellites


More handwavium.

Why do you think anyone gives a damn what an ignoramus like you thinks about this? lol.


Why do you think anyone gives a damn what an ignoramus like you thinks
about this? lol.

Because my thoughts are accurate reflections of reality whereas your thoughts are not, motivated as they are by the reality of your insanity.





http://spacejournal.ohio.edu/issue16/lofstrom.html


And he's never built one, either.

You're clueless.


And you can't read.

You're projecting again! You're the one who doesn't understand the relevance and importance of the information I've kindly provided, and you think I'm the one who can't read because YOU'RE the one who is CONFUSED! lol.


Mookie: Rubber/glue, nya, nya, nya.

I didn't say that, you did.


Zachary Manchester, a graduate student at Cornell has built a large number of tiny satellites at $25 per unit. Postage-stamp sized satellites are orbiting the Earth.


Well, no, they aren't.

Yes they are.


No they aren't.

There are postage stamp sized satellites orbiting the Earth.

They were lost.

The one's in the article were lost. Other postage stamp sized satellites have been orbited.


The article says "will be", not "have been". Cite your source, loon.

Look at the dates and read a newspaper you lunatic.

And they're a toy experiment.

Actually they're quite significant. EVERY thought leader in the INDUSTRY understands this. Of course YOU DON'T, so you think its OUR problem! lol.


Just you, Mookie. Just you.

shrug You don't recognize thought leaders either.

I'll just note that it's a GRAD STUDENT
PROJECT.

You don't know how OSTP and DARPA work do you?


And he's not Lofstrom.

You don't know Lofstrom's client list do you?


Are you claiming this random grad student IS Lofstrom? Phew, what a
loony!

What is it about 'client list' you don't understand?


Nioki Shinohara of Kyoto University was invited by IEEE in 2013 to produce a paper describing work he is doing with phased array microwave power transmission from space.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/sta...number=6495699


You noticed PAPER, right?

You noticed IEEE.ORG right?


You noticed PAPER, right?

You don't know how real research works do you?


Obviously, the same techniques that form well defined beams of microwaves can be used to form well defined beams of laser energy, and information as well as energy can be transmitted and received as well.


Preposterous notion

Actually its well founded in the physics of waves.


Preposterous notion.

Only in your imagination

demonstrating your total lack of understand

You're the one ignorant of the application of the Rayleigh Criterion in this case and how arrays of elements may be used to create an optically perfect system from these elements.


Sure, Mookie.

That's right.

It's always everyone else and never you...

In this case its you being an ass - it has nothing to do with me or anyone else. Just you.

of
both microwaves and lasers.

I've built both microwave systems and laser systems for space application. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.


I'm calling bull****.

So? That doesn't change the facts.

Name those systems and when they were launched.


Eat **** and die jerk.


Jordin Kare is developing similar techniques using lasers instead of microwaves at his company, Lasermotive

http://lasermotive.com/

Goncalo Rodriguesa , Renaud Bastaitsa , Stephane Rooseb , Yvan Stockmanb ,
Sylvia Gebhardtc , Andreas Schoeneckerc , Pierre Villond and Andre Preumonta
at the Universite Libre de Bruxelles in conjunction with Centre Spatiale de Liege and the Fraunhofer Institut fur Keramische Technologien und Systeme, and
Universite de Technologie de Compiegne completed construction of a network of mirrors that operated as an optical phased array to focus laser energy. This will eventually be flown as a swarm of nano satellites.

https://www.academia.edu/5198058/Ada...orph_ Mirrors


Things that are different are not the same, Mookie.

An unapplicable tautology applied to your ignorance is unapplicable and leaves you ignorant.


And so we see that even simple logic is beyond Mookie.

You're being illogical and don't know it.


--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson

Funny sig - from someone so thoroughly in error due to his ignorance.


Clueless response = from someone so clueless that he continues to
comment on .sigs.

Funny response in light of the sig.

--
"The odds get even - You blame the game.
The odds get even - The stakes are the same.
You bet your life."
-- "You Bet Your Life", Rush

I figured you were a dope head.

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 12:27:27 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
William Mook wrote:

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 2:53:12 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
William Mook wrote:

On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 7:35:57 PM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
William Mook wrote:

On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 8:06:39 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
William Mook wrote:

On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 9:53:15 PM UTC+12, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,

The rest of
what you've posted above is your usual gibberish.

Your comment is absolute rubbish! The Server Sky concept works well with either microwave or laser carriers.


Oh, does it, now? And you proved that how? By scribbling on napkins
with a crayon?

Well, a good place to start is this 2005 paper;

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login...mber%3D1402496


Theoretical handwaving.

What's handwaving to a moron like you is actually useful to engineers who understand a thing.


Mookie, you wouldn't know an engineer if you tripped over one.


I know you're a **** poor one pretending to know things you don't.


Interestingly enough, neither the people who pay me nor the US
Government share your opinion.

Says you. I would bet they don't let you near anything seriously important..






Which resulted in the construction of actual swarms of robots;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK54Bu9HFRw


Lab toys.

What's lab toys to an idiot like you are actually useful test articles to engineers who understand a thing.


Mookie, you wouldn't know an engineer if you tripped over one.


You have nothing of real substance to say, which is why you repeat yourself so much.


Well, I certainly have nothing of substance to say about the
substanceless loonspew that you spray.

You're projecting again.


The original thought expressed by my original post stands. Namely, that compact lightweight satellite arrays can be deployed in space that permit broadband communications to users on Earth, and permit and off world solar powered cloud operating totally independently of Earth bound concerns.

This is the essence of Server Sky, and it is what I am building here in New Zealand.


Given all the other things you keep claiming to be building, I'd
suggest no one hold their breath waiting on this one.

shrug Who gives a **** what you think or do asshole?

Which can do useful work with the right actuators;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnkMyfQ5YfY


Irrelevant and not on point.

What's irrelevant to the brain dead like you is highly relevant to those engineers who have a deep and rich understanding of a subject.


Mookie, you wouldn't know an engineer if you tripped over one.

Real engineers are thoughtful and responsive to real data. This means they can vary their responses to situations in an intelligent manner. You obviously cannot.


Try putting forward some REAL data...

I did, and you were totally clueless in response - so started ranting until I told you to eat **** and die - then you became all superior. What a freaking lunatic you are.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvN9Ri1GmuY


Again irrelevant and not on point.

Again, you're abject lack of knowledge makes it only seem so to you. For those with real engineering and scientific understanding, it is again highly relevant.


Mookie, you wouldn't know an engineer if you tripped over one.

yawn Yet, my objection to your point here stands, and your objection falls.


And the delusions cover reality for Mookie once again.

You're projecting again


And are the basis of swarms of nano-satellites that achieve various ends, including communications arrays.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...70963812001253


Handwavium.

Nonsense.


Yes, that too.

You're the one who is spouting nonsense about a peer reviewed article you obviously haven't read with understanding.


The article is about NOTHING real, Mookie.

Only a brain dead fart like you would say that. REAL engineers do not.

You then point to NOTHING
real as the basis for your NOTHING real.

YOU are to ****ing stupid to see a thing and then call the people who have answered your question stupid in response. This makes people want to tell you after several rounds of this, to eat **** and die.


Which have important impact on those interested in investing in off-world infrastructure.

http://www.financialsense.com/contri...nanosatellites


More handwavium.

Why do you think anyone gives a damn what an ignoramus like you thinks about this? lol.


Why do you think anyone gives a damn what an ignoramus like you thinks
about this? lol.

Because my thoughts are accurate reflections of reality whereas your thoughts are not, motivated as they are by the reality of your insanity.


snork

Your momma never showed you how to use a hanky. That explains a lot.






http://spacejournal.ohio.edu/issue16/lofstrom.html


And he's never built one, either.

You're clueless.


And you can't read.

You're projecting again! You're the one who doesn't understand the relevance and importance of the information I've kindly provided, and you think I'm the one who can't read because YOU'RE the one who is CONFUSED! lol..


Mookie: Rubber/glue, nya, nya, nya.

I didn't say that, you did.


Paraphrasing you, you stupid ****.

**** off.


Zachary Manchester, a graduate student at Cornell has built a large number of tiny satellites at $25 per unit. Postage-stamp sized satellites are orbiting the Earth.


Well, no, they aren't.

Yes they are.


No they aren't.

There are postage stamp sized satellites orbiting the Earth.


Cite? Yeah, I thought not.

You can't look it up? Jesus christ, why the hell should I do ALL your work you lazy ****ing cock sucker.

They were lost.

The one's in the article were lost. Other postage stamp sized satellites have been orbited.


The article says "will be", not "have been". Cite your source, loon.

Look at the dates and read a newspaper you lunatic.


Cite something

Cite this you mother ****er.

that says that "there are postage stamp sized
satellites orbiting the Earth", you havering loon.

Look it up yourself you daughter ****ing lunatic.



And they're a toy experiment.

Actually they're quite significant. EVERY thought leader in the INDUSTRY understands this. Of course YOU DON'T, so you think its OUR problem! lol.


Just you, Mookie. Just you.

shrug You don't recognize thought leaders either.


Ah, the delusions of the self-proclaimed 'polymath' come to the fore.

Do you have a gun? Take it out and shoot yourself you worthless evil *******.

I'll just note that it's a GRAD STUDENT
PROJECT.

You don't know how OSTP and DARPA work do you?


That's really quite funny! Done a lot of work on DARPA programs, have
you, Mookie? I have...

Chasing after dollars I would bet, not awarding them.

So, you still don't know how they work obviously.



And he's not Lofstrom.

You don't know Lofstrom's client list do you?


Are you claiming this random grad student IS Lofstrom? Phew, what a
loony!

What is it about 'client list' you don't understand?


What is it about "not Lofstrom" that you don't understand?

I guess that answers the question - you really don't understand you miserable ****.


Nioki Shinohara of Kyoto University was invited by IEEE in 2013 to produce a paper describing work he is doing with phased array microwave power transmission from space.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/sta...number=6495699


You noticed PAPER, right?

You noticed IEEE.ORG right?


You noticed PAPER, right?

You don't know how real research works do you?


Sure I do.

No, you do not.

I know it doesn't progress from paper directly to
handwavium, which is your usual approach.

You don't know **** you ****ing idiot.


Obviously, the same techniques that form well defined beams of microwaves can be used to form well defined beams of laser energy, and information as well as energy can be transmitted and received as well.


Preposterous notion

Actually its well founded in the physics of waves.


Preposterous notion.

Only in your imagination


Yeah, sure...

**** you.

snicker

And you wonder why people like you so much... hahaha...


demonstrating your total lack of understand

You're the one ignorant of the application of the Rayleigh Criterion in this case and how arrays of elements may be used to create an optically perfect system from these elements.


Sure, Mookie.

That's right.

It's always everyone else and never you...

In this case its you being an ass - it has nothing to do with me or anyone else. Just you.


Mookie, in EVERY case it's always the other person being an ass and
not you.

You're projecting again you miserable excuse for a human being. Maybe you'll get in an accident on the way home and be decapitated. That would make me very happy.


of
both microwaves and lasers.

I've built both microwave systems and laser systems for space application. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.


I'm calling bull****.

So? That doesn't change the facts.


No, it doesn't.

Correct.

But what follows makes them pretty clear.

Yes, pretty clear you're a miserable excuse for a human being.



Name those systems and when they were launched.


Eat **** and die jerk.


So none, then.

That's incorrect **** wad.



Jordin Kare is developing similar techniques using lasers instead of microwaves at his company, Lasermotive

http://lasermotive.com/

Goncalo Rodriguesa , Renaud Bastaitsa , Stephane Rooseb , Yvan Stockmanb ,
Sylvia Gebhardtc , Andreas Schoeneckerc , Pierre Villond and Andre Preumonta
at the Universite Libre de Bruxelles in conjunction with Centre Spatiale de Liege and the Fraunhofer Institut fur Keramische Technologien und Systeme, and
Universite de Technologie de Compiegne completed construction of a network of mirrors that operated as an optical phased array to focus laser energy. This will eventually be flown as a swarm of nano satellites.

https://www.academia.edu/5198058/Ada...orph_ Mirrors


Things that are different are not the same, Mookie.

An unapplicable tautology applied to your ignorance is unapplicable and leaves you ignorant.


And so we see that even simple logic is beyond Mookie.

You're being illogical and don't know it.


When your response to someone calling bull**** on your claims and
asking you for details is "Eat **** and die jerk", I think your
'logic' is clear.

You still don't get it. JUst how much your behavior makes you loved NOT.

Look, I responded in detail to your queries, I really did, and when you got rude that's when I told you to eat **** and die, you miserable puke, so when I did tell you to eat **** and die it was an appropriate response to your 'commentary' **** wad - so now eat **** and die. Or just go directly to die. Maybe if it its gory enough they'll put it in the paper, and I can laugh at your remains. It will save me from making the trip and ****ing on your grave you miserable little piece of ****..

Do you understand now how my response is appropriate to your behavior to me? If not I can arrange a face to face meeting and explain it to you further.

My only observation here is, similar to existing GEO satellite Internet, if the Google system ever gets "off the ground" I don't see how other space solutions will be competitive.

Even though laser would yield much higher bandwidths, you are still in the far greater expense range of expensive ground tracking gear, etc. LEO broadband will be doable with a very simple stationary ground antenna.

And yes I agree, you'd need a purpose built reflector. On the moon or elsewhere.

Dave