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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Dec 24 2009, 6:58*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Dec 24, 11:35*am, Nightcrawler wrote: On 12/24/2009 1:21 PM, BradGuth wrote: Your perpetual obfuscation and systematic policy of denial is noted. Your inability to follow a thought and abject refusal to accept reality is noted. At least I still believe in those regular laws of physics that are not conditional, politically correct nor faith-based approved. Can you or others of your cabal explain how those Newtonian laws of gravity do not apply in this case? Are you suggesting that something other than gravity has those Kuiper belt and TNO asteroids, plus scads of Oort zone Items hanging around (including Sedna and at least a few million others that never manage to orbit the sun)? Tell us again how we're supposedly not the least bit tidal associated with the nearby Sirius star/solar system. (especially when it was worth 12.5 Ms, and before then as a molecular cloud of 12.5e6 Ms) Do you have some new and improved formula for gravity that excludes items of interstellar distances? According to those pesky Newtonian laws of gravity, our solar system is well within the dominate tidal radii influence of Sirius, and especially tidal binding because we're not receding from one another. I still wonder why our resident Zionists/Jews that seem to only post their kosher approved tripe in alt.astronomy, as such are always so steadfast naysay about our physically dark but nifty mineral saturated moon, the planet Venus that shows signs of intelligent other life, and especially peeved about anything related to the relatively nearby Sirius star/solar system, that which our solar system is clearly tidal linked. If I didn't know any better, I'd say they have something faith-based at risk or simply dark and scary to hide. ~ BG |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Jan 30, 9:55*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Dec 24 2009, 6:58*pm, BradGuth wrote: On Dec 24, 11:35*am, Nightcrawler wrote: On 12/24/2009 1:21 PM, BradGuth wrote: Your perpetual obfuscation and systematic policy of denial is noted.. Your inability to follow a thought and abject refusal to accept reality is noted. At least I still believe in those regular laws of physics that are not conditional, politically correct nor faith-based approved. Can you or others of your cabal explain how those Newtonian laws of gravity do not apply in this case? Are you suggesting that something other than gravity has those Kuiper belt and TNO asteroids, plus scads of Oort zone Items hanging around (including Sedna and at least a few million others that never manage to orbit the sun)? Tell us again how we're supposedly not the least bit tidal associated with the nearby Sirius star/solar system. (especially when it was worth 12.5 Ms, and before then as a molecular cloud of 12.5e6 Ms) Do you have some new and improved formula for gravity that excludes items of interstellar distances? According to those pesky Newtonian laws of gravity, our solar system is well within the dominate tidal radii influence of Sirius, and especially tidal binding because we're not receding from one another. I still wonder why our resident Zionists/Jews that seem to only post their kosher approved tripe in alt.astronomy, as such are always so steadfast naysay about our physically dark but nifty mineral saturated moon, the planet Venus that shows signs of intelligent other life, and especially peeved about anything related to the relatively nearby Sirius star/solar system, that which our solar system is clearly tidal linked. *If I didn't know any better, I'd say they have something faith-based at risk or simply dark and scary to hide. *~ BG Geoengineering sure as hell aint going to be cheap, nor happen overnight. If the future survival of the human species ever comes down to a do-or- die push or shove, as with proper incentives or motivation (such as our sun bloating up or even the loss of our geomagnetic protection) we could probably utilize our moon(Selene) to better protect Earth from the sun and even from our global warming selves. This however will not be easy nor cheap, although it'll be a whole lot better and ultimately the cheaper option than our doing nothing, or even a whole lot better than our doing less than whatever's necessary. Only future generations will thank us, especially as our sun gradually starts to poof up. Try to imagine what those folks orbiting Sirius(B) might have had to work with, as their original sun of 8.5 Ms was going red supergiant and then of course it eventually went nova. Selene(our moon) might have been that planetoid or moon associated with the Sirius(B) planet Venus, that’s still a smoking hot planet because it’s simply not very old, and perhaps because it only recently lost its moon upon arriving into our solar system. There’s also no reason to believe other suns with equal or better elements shouldn’t have permitted its own version of biodiversity to emerge within a few million years instead of the billions that we perceive as the norm. Supposedly our moon cooled itself off and solidified rather quickly, so much so that it’s conceivable if some other sizable enough orb got produced and subsequently having been impacted by a sufficient number of icy comets, whereas sufficient water and the protective atmosphere should have allowed whatever local or panspermia forms of a complex biodiversity to emerge. Complex biodiversity and its subsequent evolution under equal or better than Eden/Earth conditions could happen within a few million years, and as such whatever planets and their moons of Sirius(B) shouldn’t have missed out. For all we know, Venus was a moon of a 50x Jupiter class of planet or brown dwarf such as Sirius(C). Taking their absolutely dreadful stellar situation into account, it seems likely that many of us might have easily come down to the very same do or die conclusion as they did. Using Selene as their last ditch survival lifeboat and interstellar craft, as such might not have been such a bad idea, and with luck plus some navigational expertise is why they would have arrived here not so long ago. The point here is survival based upon utilizing whatever you've got to work with, especially if your options and time are somewhat limited because your sun is a red supergiant and about to go nova, is a surefire method of cutting through all the usual bureaucratic red tape in order to expedite whatever logistics and technology is required for getting safely away. At a distance of 10 ly and making their escape at the average closing velocity of 29.98 km/sec towards us, it would have taken a truly dreadful but technically manageable 100,000 years to get here. However, if that event or departure were situated just one light year away from us at the time of their nova and subsequent tidal release from Sirius(B), we’re talking roughly a not so dreadful 10,000 years for that interstellar trek, and even shorter because the first 10% of that distance is when they’d likely be going 10 fold faster. Sirians (as perhaps some part of our true ancestry and having contributed other than human biodiversity) may have been down to their last short straw, so why not go for that crazy notion of a multigenerational interstellar trek, as opposed to certain death via nova. And nowadays, why shouldn't we reutilize that very same moon(Selene) to block 3% of our solar energy, because otherwise this terrific moon is only making our environment hotter from the inside out, as well as modulating our lithosphere and thus aggravating tectonic plate and seismic issues, plus radiating its secondary IR down upon us and offering a few other secondary spectrums of energy that are not exactly benefiting our frail DNA. Our captured moon(Selene) / BG |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Jan 28, 3:43*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Jan 14, 1:11*pm, BradGuth wrote: On Jan 13, 12:31*pm, BradGuth wrote: On Dec 25 2009, 8:53*pm, "Yubiwan" wrote: There are a number of things that can attack a star system, Saul. We recently cut a hole in a noxious gas cloud that would have decimated Earth and killed us all. We frequently change the orbits of meteoroids that would harm Earth and its life. When comets come close we monitor them for the deadliness of the half-life they have aboard. And many other unimaginable deadly events are cancelled by us. -- Yubiwan Be well and come... be welcome! Where's the supposed evidence that the terrific Sirius molecular cloud of 12.5e6 Ms and its subsequent stars never had an impact/influence upon our solar system? What would an honest Sean Rothschild like yourself know and be willing to share about this tidal gravity association that we must still have with the Sirius star/solar system, that's currently only a fraction of it's original stellar mass? *BradGuth, Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “GuthUsenet Have the Newtonian laws of gravity been revoked? Where's the supposed evidence or even subjective conditional physics that the terrific Sirius molecular cloud of 12.5e6 Ms, and that of its subsequent vibrant stars never had an impact/influence upon our solar system? What would an honest Sean Rothschild like "Yubiwan" or "Darla" know and/or be willing to share about this tidal gravity association that we must still have with the remaining Sirius star/solar system, that's currently only a fraction of it's original 12.5 stellar mass? *~ BG Is "uk.sci.astronomy" in a coma? |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Jan 30, 9:55*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Dec 24 2009, 6:58*pm, BradGuth wrote: On Dec 24, 11:35*am, Nightcrawler wrote: On 12/24/2009 1:21 PM, BradGuth wrote: Your perpetual obfuscation and systematic policy of denial is noted.. Your inability to follow a thought and abject refusal to accept reality is noted. At least I still believe in those regular laws of physics that are not conditional, politically correct nor faith-based approved. Can you or others of your cabal explain how those Newtonian laws of gravity do not apply in this case? Are you suggesting that something other than gravity has those Kuiper belt and TNO asteroids, plus scads of Oort zone Items hanging around (including Sedna and at least a few million others that never manage to orbit the sun)? Tell us again how we're supposedly not the least bit tidal associated with the nearby Sirius star/solar system. (especially when it was worth 12.5 Ms, and before then as a molecular cloud of 12.5e6 Ms) Do you have some new and improved formula for gravity that excludes items of interstellar distances? According to those pesky Newtonian laws of gravity, our solar system is well within the dominate tidal radii influence of Sirius, and especially tidal binding because we're not receding from one another. I still wonder why our resident Zionists/Jews that seem to only post their kosher approved tripe in alt.astronomy, as such are always so steadfast naysay about our physically dark but nifty mineral saturated moon, the planet Venus that shows signs of intelligent other life, and especially peeved about anything related to the relatively nearby Sirius star/solar system, that which our solar system is clearly tidal linked. *If I didn't know any better, I'd say they have something faith-based at risk or simply dark and scary to hide. What kinds of planets and their moons would a massive (18e30 kg star that rather quickly consumed itself down to a mass of 6e30 kg as a red supergiant) as such an extremely vibrant star like Sirius(B) have had? ~ BG |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Dec 24 2009, 6:58*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Dec 24, 11:35*am, Nightcrawler wrote: On 12/24/2009 1:21 PM, BradGuth wrote: Your perpetual obfuscation and systematic policy of denial is noted. Your inability to follow a thought and abject refusal to accept reality is noted. At least I believe in those regular laws of physics that are not conditional, politically correct nor faith-based approved. Can you explain how the Newtonian laws of gravity do not apply in this case? Are you suggesting that something other than gravity has those Kuiper belt and TNO asteroids, plus scads of Oort zone Items hanging around (including Sedna and at least a few thousand others)? Tell us how we're supposedly not the least bit tidal associated with Sirius star system that used to be worth 12.5 solar masses. Do you have some new and improved formula for gravity? What kinds of planets and their moons would a truly massive (18e30 kg star that rather quickly consumed itself down to a mass of 6e30 kg as a red supergiant) as such an extremely vibrant star like Sirius(B) have had? ~ BG |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Feb 11, 12:21*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Dec 24 2009, 6:58*pm, BradGuth wrote: On Dec 24, 11:35*am, Nightcrawler wrote: On 12/24/2009 1:21 PM, BradGuth wrote: Your perpetual obfuscation and systematic policy of denial is noted.. Your inability to follow a thought and abject refusal to accept reality is noted. At least I believe in those regular laws of physics that are not conditional, politically correct nor faith-based approved. Can you explain how the Newtonian laws of gravity do not apply in this case? Are you suggesting that something other than gravity has those Kuiper belt and TNO asteroids, plus scads of Oort zone Items hanging around (including Sedna and at least a few thousand others)? Tell us how we're supposedly not the least bit tidal associated with Sirius star system that used to be worth 12.5 solar masses. Do you have some new and improved formula for gravity? What kinds of planets and their moons would a truly massive (18e30 kg star that rather quickly consumed itself down to a mass of 6e30 kg as a red supergiant) as per such an extremely vibrant star like Sirius(B) have had before everything went to hell? I suppose we could further review what we can do with our moon(Selene), such as using it for accommodating my Lunar Space Elevator and its International Space Station within the Counter Mass (LSE-CM/ISS), as well as using it to shade Earth by 3%. ~ BG |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Feb 11, 12:21*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Dec 24 2009, 6:58*pm, BradGuth wrote: On Dec 24, 11:35*am, Nightcrawler wrote: On 12/24/2009 1:21 PM, BradGuth wrote: Your perpetual obfuscation and systematic policy of denial is noted.. Your inability to follow a thought and abject refusal to accept reality is noted. At least I believe in those regular laws of physics that are not conditional, politically correct nor faith-based approved. Can you explain how the Newtonian laws of gravity do not apply in this case? Are you suggesting that something other than gravity has those Kuiper belt and TNO asteroids, plus scads of Oort zone Items hanging around (including Sedna and at least a few thousand others)? Tell us how we're supposedly not the least bit tidal associated with Sirius star system that used to be worth 12.5 solar masses. Do you have some new and improved formula for gravity? What kinds of planets and their moons would a truly massive (18e30 kg star that rather quickly consumed itself down to a mass of 6e30 kg as a red supergiant) as such an extremely vibrant star like Sirius(B) have had? *~ BG It seems that Sirius(B) and those crazy Newtonian laws of gravity should still apply, but then we'd only be making fools out of so many good folks that we pay those big bucks to tell the rest of us whatever to believe. ~ BG |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Dec 24 2009, 6:58*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Dec 24, 11:35*am, Nightcrawler wrote: On 12/24/2009 1:21 PM, BradGuth wrote: Your perpetual obfuscation and systematic policy of denial is noted. Your inability to follow a thought and abject refusal to accept reality is noted. At least I believe in those regular laws of physics that are not conditional, politically correct nor faith-based approved. Can you explain how the Newtonian laws of gravity do not apply in this case? Are you suggesting that something other than gravity has those Kuiper belt and TNO asteroids, plus scads of Oort zone Items hanging around (including Sedna and at least a few thousand others)? Tell us how we're supposedly not the least bit tidal associated with Sirius. Do you have some new and improved formula for gravity? In other words, our Nightcrawler has nothing except the usual subjective hype that's all mainstream status quo approved. ~ BG |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
In other words, it seems that our resident parrot Nightcrawler has
nothing except the usual subjective hype that's all mainstream status quo approved. ~ BG On Dec 24 2009, 6:58*pm, BradGuth wrote: On Dec 24, 11:35*am, Nightcrawler wrote: On 12/24/2009 1:21 PM, BradGuth wrote: Your perpetual obfuscation and systematic policy of denial is noted. Your inability to follow a clean thought and abject refusal to accept reality is noted. At least I still believe in those regular laws of physics that are not conditional, politically correct nor faith-based approved. Can you explain how the Newtonian laws of gravity do not apply in this case? Are you suggesting that something other than gravity has those Kuiper belt and TNO asteroids, plus scads of Oort zone Items hanging around (including Sedna and at least a few thousand others)? Tell us how we're supposedly not the least bit tidal associated with Sirius. (especially when it was worth 12.5 solar masses) Do you have some new and improved formula for gravity that somehow excludes interstellar interactions? Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Feb 16, 6:32*am, BradGuth wrote:
In other words, it seems that our resident parrot Nightcrawler has nothing except the usual subjective hype that's all mainstream status quo approved. *~ BG On Dec 24 2009, 6:58*pm, BradGuth wrote: On Dec 24, 11:35*am, Nightcrawler wrote: On 12/24/2009 1:21 PM, BradGuth wrote: Your perpetual obfuscation and systematic policy of denial is noted.. Your inability to follow a clean thought and abject refusal to accept reality is also noted. At least I still believe in those regular laws of physics that are not conditional, politically correct nor faith-based approved. Can you explain how the Newtonian laws of gravity do not apply in this case? Are you suggesting that something other than gravity has those Kuiper belt and TNO asteroids, plus scads of Oort zone Items hanging around (including Sedna and at least a few thousand others)? Tell us how we're supposedly not the least bit tidal associated with Sirius. (especially when it was worth 12.5 solar masses) Do you have some new and improved formula for gravity that somehow excludes interstellar interactions? *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” Apparently the asking of others to suggest why we've never been affected and/or tidal associated with the Sirius star/solar system is asking too much, and my suggesting otherwise is just ****ing off those on charge of mainstream PR damage control. A nearby molecular cloud of perhaps 20 light year radii and worth 2.5e37 kg (a density of 1000 suns per ly3 that may well have included us), is apparently no big deal, not even after having produced such a nearby star/solar system worth 25e30 kg that blew away the remaining molecular mass which we had to have been saturated within. ~ BG |
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