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Old May 19th 17, 08:02 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Gerald Kelleher
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Proof of the Earth's orbital motion is that the background stars appear to move parallel to the orbital plane and eventually behind the Sun's glare for a period.

http://solar-center.stanford.edu/AO/dawn-rising.html

A solar eclipse abruptly alters when a star comes into view close to the central Sun but this information is lost to those who unfortunately are stuck with a rotating celestial sphere.

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Old May 20th 17, 12:36 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Mike Collins[_4_]
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Gerald Kelleher wrote:
Proof of the Earth's orbital motion is that the background stars appear
to move parallel to the orbital plane and eventually behind the Sun's glare for a period.

http://solar-center.stanford.edu/AO/dawn-rising.html

A solar eclipse abruptly alters when a star comes into view close to the
central Sun but this information is lost to those who unfortunately are
stuck with a rotating celestial sphere.



So you are using the fixed reference of the background stars to demonstrate
orbital motion.
Works just as well for the Earths rotation - that's how we know the
sidereal day.


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Old May 20th 17, 01:27 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Mike Collins:
So you are using the fixed reference of the background stars...


This would be a more fun place if you and a few others didn't try to
set the knuckle draggers straight, but moved them straight into your
kill file. It's a fool's errand, playing into his hands. Like a moth to
a flame you are drawn.

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Old May 20th 17, 07:13 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Gerald Kelleher
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Old men with convictions based on wordplays have nothing but anger,hatred and complaining for company.

One of the loveliest narratives is that the foundations of timekeeping are founded on the transition of the stars from an evening appearance to a dawn appearance just as the inner planets make the same transition as they run their circuits, the difference being that the inner planets also move from left to right behind the Sun along with size and luminosity variations -

http://www.popastro.com/images/plane...ary%202012.jpg

The incremental change in position of the planets and the stars seen from the surface of a moving Earth to the central Sun removes the last vestiges of the geocentric system and seen in a wonderful graphic -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdFrE7hWj0A


There is no such thing as the 'fixed stars', some stars are above us in the scheme of galactic orbital motion, some below, some closer the galactic center and some ahead of us and some further out towards the galactic edge but with the dominance of rotating celestial sphere enthusiasts this huge area of research falls victim to the intellectually and conceptually impotent.




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Old May 20th 17, 07:33 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Gerald Kelleher
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To clear up an important point, the inner planets not only move from an evening appearance to an morning appearance as it passes in front of the Sun but eventually move from a morning appearance to an evening appearance as it moves behind the central Sun. It is only a matter of matching the graphics with actual imaging -

http://www.popastro.com/images/plane...ary%202012.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdFrE7hWj0A

It can be argued that this proof of the Earth's orbital motion is even easier than dual retrogrades resolution and the eclipse event brings it into sharp focus as the Sun can actually be seen among the grouping of stars that lie along the orbital plane of the Earth as the Zodiac.



 




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