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Old May 11th 17, 02:15 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 1:32:56 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

You poor thing, unable to match one daily rotation with its maximum equatorial speed of 1037.5 miles per hour with the temperatures fluctuations throughout the day when the Sun is in view and when the other stars are in view.

At the South and North poles the Sun is in view for 6 months at a time due to a separate rotations hence two distinct rotations serving two distinct day/night cycles.

The next step is apply comparative inclinations to determine why habitable zones across latitudes are influenced by the daily and annual rotations, the relationship to the circle of illumination and to the central Sun.





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Old May 11th 17, 05:41 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 2:15:37 PM UTC+1, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 1:32:56 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

You poor thing, unable to match one daily rotation with its maximum equatorial speed of 1037.5 miles per hour with the temperatures fluctuations throughout the day when the Sun is in view and when the other stars are in view.

At the South and North poles the Sun is in view for 6 months at a time due to a separate rotations hence two distinct rotations serving two distinct day/night cycles.

The next step is apply comparative inclinations to determine why habitable zones across latitudes are influenced by the daily and annual rotations, the relationship to the circle of illumination and to the central Sun.

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On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 2:15:37 PM UTC+1, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
The next step is apply comparative inclinations to determine why habitable zones across latitudes are influenced by the daily and annual rotations, the relationship to the circle of illumination and to the central Sun.



Keep it up, you'll be at Primary School Geography level soon.
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Old May 12th 17, 09:17 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 10:15:03 PM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-7, Gerald Kelleher wrote:

...the entire surface of a planet turns to the Sun in response to its orbital motion...


... and there is your extra sidereal day each year! Congratulations!


You know, whatever you may think of yourself you are not a snake in the grass and I have had only a few issues with you in terms of allowing me to express my viewpoint without misrepresentation. I see Collins post a new thread least he find himself like the other ill individual who has the only sole purpose of attaching himself to my posts.

The mess of 'climate change' is due to the lack of astronomical involvement in the topic and specifically the two major components which affect weather and temperature fluctuations across latitudes as the Earth runs its annual circuit. In this non confrontational approach the dynamics behind the diurnal day/night cycle and separately the polar day/night cycle dismiss any notion of a solar and sidereal day. It becomes an effort to combine the separate rotations into the form it takes as seasonal weather experiences and how changes in inclination affect those conditions across a wider range of latitudes between more benign or more extreme conditions.

The fact the genuine climate research only goes on in this forum is not a boast but a dismaying fact, hostile audience or not.

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Old May 12th 17, 10:11 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Gerald Kelleher wrote:
On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 10:15:03 PM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 11:17:23 AM UTC-7, Gerald Kelleher wrote:

...the entire surface of a planet turns to the Sun in response to its orbital motion...


... and there is your extra sidereal day each year! Congratulations!


You know, whatever you may think of yourself you are not a snake in the
grass and I have had only a few issues with you in terms of allowing me
to express my viewpoint without misrepresentation. I see Collins post a
new thread least he find himself like the other ill individual who has
the only sole purpose of attaching himself to my posts.

The mess of 'climate change' is due to the lack of astronomical
involvement in the topic and specifically the two major components which
affect weather and temperature fluctuations across latitudes as the Earth
runs its annual circuit. In this non confrontational approach the
dynamics behind the diurnal day/night cycle and separately the polar
day/night cycle dismiss any notion of a solar and sidereal day. It
becomes an effort to combine the separate rotations into the form it
takes as seasonal weather experiences and how changes in inclination
affect those conditions across a wider range of latitudes between more
benign or more extreme conditions.

The fact the genuine climate research only goes on in this forum is not a
boast but a dismaying fact, hostile audience or not.



Driven to the nearest roundabout yet? While you're driving doing it notice
that the driver's door is facing the island. Yet you have turned 360
degrees! Just like the Moon in orbit round the Earth. Ask a nine year old
to explain it to you.


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Old May 12th 17, 12:16 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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The Earth's climate is an amazing topic to research and particularly the polar influences which condition a largely Equatorial climate. As the Earth forward motion through space turns the entire surface of the planet, the circumference where the Sun is in view or absent either expands and contracts in response to that rotation -

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/...mericas250.jpg

The Arctic and Antarctic circles are merely the maximum circumference for this seesawing geometry but neglected because academics refuse to budge from their tilting Earth notion to explain the seasons or have some awful pivoting circle of illumination off the Equator thereby sadly misusing imaging -

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap140319.html

Today is the day they say it is polar night at the South Pole however the moon is so bright presently that it hardly appears that way even though the Sun has been absent from view since March 21st.

All good stuff and none of it touched by human intellect, after all, who has accepted that the Earth has two distinct rotations to the Sun ?.





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On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 12:16:44 PM UTC+1, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
As the Earth forward motion through space turns the entire surface of the planet, the circumference where the Sun is in view or absent either expands and contracts in response to that rotation -


The circle of illumination does not expand or contract.

Apparently you are still some way from your Primary School Geography qualification.
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Old May 12th 17, 05:32 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Friday, 12 May 2017 13:59:35 UTC+2, wrote:

The circle of illumination does not expand or contract.

Apparently you are still some way from your Primary School Geography qualification.


You cannot shame a psychopathic bully into accepting their own failures. Their own glaring, behavioural handicaps are always their critic's fault. Ask any racist, wife beater, troll, criminal, bad driver, extremist or terrorist for instant confirmation with the first breath. Infantile paralysis of their conscience denies them any empathy with their countless, bloodied victims. "They made me do it, Mommy!"

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39895427

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Old May 13th 17, 09:46 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 5:32:12 PM UTC+1, Chris.B wrote:
On Friday, 12 May 2017 13:59:35 UTC+2, wrote:

The circle of illumination does not expand or contract.

Apparently you are still some way from your Primary School Geography qualification.


You cannot shame a psychopathic bully into accepting their own failures. Their own glaring, behavioural handicaps are always their critic's fault. Ask any racist, wife beater, troll, criminal, bad driver, extremist or terrorist for instant confirmation with the first breath. Infantile paralysis of their conscience denies them any empathy with their countless, bloodied victims. "They made me do it, Mommy!"

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39895427


You are in love with your own words and make a racket on that account.

Not being clear in my last contribution , the circumference where the Sun remains in view constantly expands presently with the North pole at its center while the opposite is the case at the South pole where the circle of planetary surface where the Sun is absents expands in similar fashion. As the North poles turns across the fully illuminated face of the Earth and parallel to the orbital plane so that the distance between that surface point and the circle of illumination grows and providing the basis for expansion/contraction of areas exposed to constant sunlight or constant darkness.

The object of this exercise is not only to provide an accurate description of conditions at either poles but also to prevent people from reaching for the old incomplete and ultimately false description of the Northern and Southern poles tilting towards and away from the Sun.

 




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