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From Russia, Without Love
....is the title of this week's Fox News column, in which I discuss the
difference between the Russian and American space programs, and propose moving ISS into a useful orbit. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102931,00.html -- simberg.interglobal.org * 310 372-7963 (CA) 307 739-1296 (Jackson Hole) interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org "Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..." Swap the first . and @ and throw out the ".trash" to email me. Here's my email address for autospammers: |
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From Russia, Without Love
h (Rand Simberg) wrote:
...is the title of this week's Fox News column, in which I discuss the difference between the Russian and American space programs, A meaningless discussion since it compares a Russian self-evaluation with a critical external review of the American program. Apples and oranges. D. -- The STS-107 Columbia Loss FAQ can be found at the following URLs: Text-Only Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq.html Enhanced HTML Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq_x.html Corrections, comments, and additions should be e-mailed to , as well as posted to sci.space.history and sci.space.shuttle for discussion. |
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From Russia, Without Love
h (Rand Simberg) wrote:
...is the title of this week's Fox News column, in which I discuss the difference between the Russian and American space programs, and propose moving ISS into a useful orbit. Thanks for the ad. Byeeeee. -- Gadzooks - here comes the Harbourmaster! http://www.geocities.com/brettocallaghan - Newsgroup Stats for Agent |
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From Russia, Without Love
Even if the Russkis could launch Soyuz out of Kourou to an ISS at 28
degrees, there's no way they could dock with ISS without visibility to Russian ground stations, which all are at 51.6 degrees or higher latitude. Besides, in a world where the US can't even send one pound to ISS, the idea of sending multi-ton propellant tanks to dock with ISS is ludricrous. Well, I guess there must be some way to get ISS away from the grubby hands of those capitalist Russians, so they can't pull any more Dennis Tito stunts. h (Rand Simberg) wrote in message ... ...is the title of this week's Fox News column, in which I discuss the difference between the Russian and American space programs, and propose moving ISS into a useful orbit. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102931,00.html |
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From Russia, Without Love
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102931,00.html
I liked the discussion of the Russian vs. NASA culture. As for changing the inclination, it is an interesting idea. Chemical rockets obviously wouldn't do it for anything close to $1 billion. But something like an ion engine, or the tether suggested in http://www.thespacereview.com/article/58/1 might be doable for a budget more in the $1 billion range. According to my Isakowitz, Japan's H II can launch to inclinations of 28.5 to 100 degrees, and launches from a latitude of about 30 degrees, so they could presumably make the change with no decrease in payload. Likewise for Europe who launches from near the equator. And then the Russians. There's the question of whether the Kourou launches will really happen, and if so what would be involved in doing crewed launches too. And the financial/political questions. For the moment, it would seem that NASA needs the Russians as much as vice versa, although of course whether that will change remains to be seen. But back to the inclination: the next question is whether earth observation is a viable mission for ISS. At first glance, it would seem absurd: we have various earth observing satellites, and ISS isn't a particularly good place to mount a remotely operated instrument (because of attitude control, vibration, etc). The flip side, however, is that ISS astronauts have apparently sometimes been the first to discover volcanic eruptions and the like (e.g. http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/images/eol/2003/anatahan.html ). Whether this is really a reason to be doing these ISS observation missions isn't clear, but then again that problem also exists for the competing ISS missions (microgravity research, staging area for moon base, develop technology for human spaceflight, etc). |
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From Russia, Without Love
Excuse me, but what is a "recovering aerospace engineer"?
That was in your bio at the bottom of the article. Eric Rand Simberg ) wrote: : ...is the title of this week's Fox News column, in which I discuss the : difference between the Russian and American space programs, and : propose moving ISS into a useful orbit. : http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102931,00.html : -- : simberg.interglobal.org * 310 372-7963 (CA) 307 739-1296 (Jackson Hole) : interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org : "Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..." : Swap the first . and @ and throw out the ".trash" to email me. : Here's my email address for autospammers: |
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From Russia, Without Love
On or about Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:08 -0800 (PST), Eric Chomko
made the sensational claim that: Excuse me, but what is a "recovering aerospace engineer"? I expect it's a lot like a recovering alcoholic. -- This is a siggy | To E-mail, do note | This space is for rent It's properly formatted | who you mean to reply-to | Inquire within if you No person, none, care | and it will reach me | Would like your ad here |
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From Russia, Without Love
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:37:40 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away,
(Explorer8939) made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: Even if the Russkis could launch Soyuz out of Kourou to an ISS at 28 degrees, Why in the world could they not? there's no way they could dock with ISS without visibility to Russian ground stations, which all are at 51.6 degrees or higher latitude. Really? Besides, in a world where the US can't even send one pound to ISS, the idea of sending multi-ton propellant tanks to dock with ISS is ludricrous. Buy them from the Russians. It could be done with a few dozen Progess M1s. Well, I guess there must be some way to get ISS away from the grubby hands of those capitalist Russians, so they can't pull any more Dennis Tito stunts. laughing -- simberg.interglobal.org * 310 372-7963 (CA) 307 739-1296 (Jackson Hole) interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org "Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..." Swap the first . and @ and throw out the ".trash" to email me. Here's my email address for autospammers: |
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From Russia, Without Love
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:25:02 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away,
Jim Kingdon made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102931,00.html I liked the discussion of the Russian vs. NASA culture. As for changing the inclination, it is an interesting idea. Chemical rockets obviously wouldn't do it for anything close to $1 billion. I think they would actually, as long as you purchased from the Russians. Of course, after the first few, you'd have to launch them from Kourou, but as I understand, that deal only costs about three hundred million or so. -- simberg.interglobal.org * 310 372-7963 (CA) 307 739-1296 (Jackson Hole) interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org "Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..." Swap the first . and @ and throw out the ".trash" to email me. Here's my email address for autospammers: |
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