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On Mar 21, 10:42*pm, American wrote:
On Mar 17, 4:27*pm, BradGuth wrote: How many more greased pigs do we need in American politics? Apparently we need one "greased pig" for every 10 of us. and so 1/10th of the workforce gets represented by 100% republican/democrat spin which won't represent 99% of the truth, even at least 50% of the time. That sounds about right. (Seems like it's time for a makeover). Lies upon Lies upon Lies ------------------------------------- Lie: Bailed-out AIG executives are the only reason that angry mobs should be directed at the entire AIG fallout (700 Billion) , while only 1/10th of 1% of bonuses paid to executives are in the process of being "accused". Lie: Barrack Obama never said that there would be a limiting of "earmarks" on any of pending or enacted legislation. Lie: Sec'ty of Treasury Gytner didn't know about AIG bailouts more than three weeks ago, when the offer to "punish" those who took advantage of bonus money that was the result of the stimulus recommended by socialist democrats. Lie: Preventing abortions is less important than supporting illegal aliens, who would represent larger voting blocs of welfare recipients in a society of anti-capitalists. Lie: Government must enlarge itself in order to create markets for windmills, "green" cars, and more environmental regulation in order to expand the welfare state, anti-capitalism, and isolationism. Lie: The Constitution does not deny legislative authority by Congress. Any act of Congress is constitutional as long as it is made in the interests of the State. Lie: All Acts of Congress are legally enforcable representations of the president's desires. It is hypocritical to claim allegiance and be unwilling to accept presidential wishes enacted by Congress. Submission and allegiance are synonymous. Lie: Refusal to accept Congressional legislation is in itself open rebellion. Intimidations of the IRS justify military occupation. Lie: The purpose of taxation is not political control but, rather, economic security for the bureaucracy. We Hold These Truths to be Self Evident ----------------------------------------------------------- Truth: Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness Truth: It is unconstitutional for either the president or congress to make laws (other than trade regulations) for us. When congressional legislation threatens our ability to make an honest living, we will protest and resist. Truth: The president has only executive authority. He can exercise executive powers and executive influence but cannot originate legislation. Truth: If local authority can become counteracted by congres- sionally enforced taxation, the bureaucracy intends to make us all slaves. Truth: It's high time that the perception of all bureaucratic, big-government centralists who operate out of their so- called "transparent" Washington, D.C. glass houses, should be recognized for the stench of compost that they've inherited by their own actions in misrepresenting revolutionary, free market technology. Truth: When the political factor overrides the intelligence factor throughout the land, *then the mob mentality encompasses more large groups of curious but uninformed status quo, who, because of 1/10th of all the workforce throughout America (bureaucrats) being represented by 100% of the political republican/democrat media spin - spin that can never represent the other 99.9% of the truth, and who assume by their own misled ignorance (or arrogance), that certain scapegoats, who become framed by this "one trick pony" administration, must become targeted as the preferred focal point - scapegoats who represent *only 0.1% of all bonuses paid throughout the AGI complex of all bonuses paid to receivers of bailout funds, yet wrongfully creating the accusation on a single (or group of single) executives - executives that are being made as the culprits for the hidden and self-perpetuating reason of administrative anarchy-gone-populist - this being done through- out the listening and viewing "prime time" malframed land of fawning presidential media, especially as it becomes impossible for an administration of this kind to potentate some witch-hunt on accusation of snobbery on every single bundle of aristocratic "wheat" in assuming that there exists only a single "tare" amongst them. Truth: In Communist and Socialist nations, individuals are guilty until proven innocent. In free societies, there can be no such thing as guilt without burden of proof. Such laws are rooted in positive law. Will, our supposed legal system isn't exactly as it should be, and our government is always pulling whatever strings their faith-based puppet masters are not pulling. Idealistically, there would be no clear distinction between classes of people, because all people would live their lives under positive law, and would have the ability to transform themselves with the renewing of their minds - AS THE KNOWLEDGE BECOMES AVAILABLE TO THEM. All everyone has to do is to believe that "... the one who is in you, is greater than the one who is in the world". (1 John 4:4) - and a way is made to access that knowledge, so that one may bear much (spiritual) fruit according to the spiritual knowledge that God has blessed them with. In such an idealistic nation, the social structure takes care of itself. THERE IS NO NEED TO POLICE HUMAN BEHAVIOR because all actions by groups of believers are made for the enhancement of the entire group. But faith-based groups simply do not police their own kind, not to mention the political favoritism such as our SEC approved Ponzi Mafoff. IMO these kinds of groups that can think for themselves are not being influenced by popular mass media, and they can exercise their own personal freedom and personal privacy by freedom from interference of intrusive government, overtaxation, and urban sprawl. They are, and will always be, the most important part of an America that believes in themselves - rather than having those in the bureaucracy do it for them. American I'm all for self-investing and for policing of your own kind, starting at home. All kids need to have parents and/or guardians that'll kick serious butt whenever it's necessary. Regardless, some of us are still going to make honest mistakes, while others are only going to be lost causes. ~ BG |
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On Mar 22, 9:31*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Mar 21, 10:42*pm, American wrote: On Mar 17, 4:27*pm, BradGuth wrote: How many more greased pigs do we need in American politics? Apparently we need one "greased pig" for every 10 of us. and so 1/10th of the workforce gets represented by 100% republican/democrat spin which won't represent 99% of the truth, even at least 50% of the time. That sounds about right. (Seems like it's time for a makeover). Lies upon Lies upon Lies ------------------------------------- Lie: Bailed-out AIG executives are the only reason that angry mobs should be directed at the entire AIG fallout (700 Billion) , while only 1/10th of 1% of bonuses paid to executives are in the process of being "accused". Lie: Barrack Obama never said that there would be a limiting of "earmarks" on any of pending or enacted legislation. Lie: Sec'ty of Treasury Gytner didn't know about AIG bailouts more than three weeks ago, when the offer to "punish" those who took advantage of bonus money that was the result of the stimulus recommended by socialist democrats. Lie: Preventing abortions is less important than supporting illegal aliens, who would represent larger voting blocs of welfare recipients in a society of anti-capitalists. Lie: Government must enlarge itself in order to create markets for windmills, "green" cars, and more environmental regulation in order to expand the welfare state, anti-capitalism, and isolationism. Lie: The Constitution does not deny legislative authority by Congress. Any act of Congress is constitutional as long as it is made in the interests of the State. Lie: All Acts of Congress are legally enforcable representations of the president's desires. It is hypocritical to claim allegiance and be unwilling to accept presidential wishes enacted by Congress. Submission and allegiance are synonymous. Lie: Refusal to accept Congressional legislation is in itself open rebellion. Intimidations of the IRS justify military occupation. Lie: The purpose of taxation is not political control but, rather, economic security for the bureaucracy. We Hold These Truths to be Self Evident ----------------------------------------------------------- Truth: Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness Truth: It is unconstitutional for either the president or congress to make laws (other than trade regulations) for us. When congressional legislation threatens our ability to make an honest living, we will protest and resist. Truth: The president has only executive authority. He can exercise executive powers and executive influence but cannot originate legislation. Truth: If local authority can become counteracted by congres- sionally enforced taxation, the bureaucracy intends to make us all slaves. Truth: It's high time that the perception of all bureaucratic, big-government centralists who operate out of their so- called "transparent" Washington, D.C. glass houses, should be recognized for the stench of compost that they've inherited by their own actions in misrepresenting revolutionary, free market technology. Truth: When the political factor overrides the intelligence factor throughout the land, *then the mob mentality encompasses more large groups of curious but uninformed status quo, who, because of 1/10th of all the workforce throughout America (bureaucrats) being represented by 100% of the political republican/democrat media spin - spin that can never represent the other 99.9% of the truth, and who assume by their own misled ignorance (or arrogance), that certain scapegoats, who become framed by this "one trick pony" administration, must become targeted as the preferred focal point - scapegoats who represent *only 0.1% of all bonuses paid throughout the AGI complex of all bonuses paid to receivers of bailout funds, yet wrongfully creating the accusation on a single (or group of single) executives - executives that are being made as the culprits for the hidden and self-perpetuating reason of administrative anarchy-gone-populist - this being done through- out the listening and viewing "prime time" malframed land of fawning presidential media, especially as it becomes impossible for an administration of this kind to potentate some witch-hunt on accusation of snobbery on every single bundle of aristocratic "wheat" in assuming that there exists only a single "tare" amongst them. Truth: In Communist and Socialist nations, individuals are guilty until proven innocent. In free societies, there can be no such thing as guilt without burden of proof. Such laws are rooted in positive law. Will, our supposed legal system isn't exactly as it should be, and our government is always pulling whatever strings their faith-based puppet masters are not pulling. Idealistically, there would be no clear distinction between classes of people, because all people would live their lives under positive law, and would have the ability to transform themselves with the renewing of their minds - AS THE KNOWLEDGE BECOMES AVAILABLE TO THEM. All everyone has to do is to believe that "... the one who is in you, is greater than the one who is in the world". (1 John 4:4) - and a way is made to access that knowledge, so that one may bear much (spiritual) fruit according to the spiritual knowledge that God has blessed them with. In such an idealistic nation, the social structure takes care of itself. THERE IS NO NEED TO POLICE HUMAN BEHAVIOR because all actions by groups of believers are made for the enhancement of the entire group. But faith-based groups simply do not police their own kind, not to mention the political favoritism such as our SEC approved Ponzi Mafoff. IMO these kinds of groups that can think for themselves are not being influenced by popular mass media, and they can exercise their own personal freedom and personal privacy by freedom from interference of intrusive government, overtaxation, and urban sprawl. They are, and will always be, the most important part of an America that believes in themselves - rather than having those in the bureaucracy do it for them. American I'm all for self-investing and for policing of your own kind, starting at home. *All kids need to have parents and/or guardians that'll kick serious butt whenever it's necessary. *Regardless, some of us are still going to make honest mistakes, while others are only going to be lost causes. *~ BG- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Funny... some think that God has a mother, because ".. In the beginning was the Word (or Mary, who the idol worshippers say is the mother of God). Thus we have the nanny-state, or even the Mary-state, as a cover for the sins of abortionists, brought to you by the people's choice - like people who endorse the liberal theology of Speaker of the House Pelosi, who might as well be Mother Divine, who in Indian tradition, directs human evolution, by raising the Buddhic state of consciousness to a new level of "renaissance". There is no alternative to open rebellion using abortion as an alternative (Lilith) to "Mary worship". Institutional- ized "Mary worship" will never be able to help the mothers of America - more working men that have respectable, future- driven technology will revolutionize industry, whether the mandarins of Congress approve or not. Unfortunately, this does absolutely nothing for the world to come for any kind of revelatory scientific intuition, because the reasonable, analytical knowledge of men gets erased with the worship of conception as the ultimate symbolism over substance, for which there can be no leading of the spirit out of the ensuing chaos and insurrection of the Mandarins. The country as a whole needs to pray for the working mother. It's real MOTHERS that this country lacks, NOT Nancy Pelosi. This is how far the antiquated, bureaucratic establishment of monopolies has taken us - the need to express our righteous indignation over the prevailing science has never been more severe. American "The incantation for a spiritual healing to be effective must include the name of the ailing person's mother." - (Shabb. 66b) |
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On Mar 23, 10:45*pm, American wrote:
On Mar 22, 9:31*am, BradGuth wrote: On Mar 21, 10:42*pm, American wrote: On Mar 17, 4:27*pm, BradGuth wrote: How many more greased pigs do we need in American politics? Apparently we need one "greased pig" for every 10 of us. and so 1/10th of the workforce gets represented by 100% republican/democrat spin which won't represent 99% of the truth, even at least 50% of the time. That sounds about right. (Seems like it's time for a makeover). Lies upon Lies upon Lies ------------------------------------- Lie: Bailed-out AIG executives are the only reason that angry mobs should be directed at the entire AIG fallout (700 Billion) , while only 1/10th of 1% of bonuses paid to executives are in the process of being "accused". Lie: Barrack Obama never said that there would be a limiting of "earmarks" on any of pending or enacted legislation. Lie: Sec'ty of Treasury Gytner didn't know about AIG bailouts more than three weeks ago, when the offer to "punish" those who took advantage of bonus money that was the result of the stimulus recommended by socialist democrats. Lie: Preventing abortions is less important than supporting illegal aliens, who would represent larger voting blocs of welfare recipients in a society of anti-capitalists. Lie: Government must enlarge itself in order to create markets for windmills, "green" cars, and more environmental regulation in order to expand the welfare state, anti-capitalism, and isolationism. Lie: The Constitution does not deny legislative authority by Congress. Any act of Congress is constitutional as long as it is made in the interests of the State. Lie: All Acts of Congress are legally enforcable representations of the president's desires. It is hypocritical to claim allegiance and be unwilling to accept presidential wishes enacted by Congress. Submission and allegiance are synonymous. Lie: Refusal to accept Congressional legislation is in itself open rebellion. Intimidations of the IRS justify military occupation. Lie: The purpose of taxation is not political control but, rather, economic security for the bureaucracy. We Hold These Truths to be Self Evident ----------------------------------------------------------- Truth: Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness Truth: It is unconstitutional for either the president or congress to make laws (other than trade regulations) for us. When congressional legislation threatens our ability to make an honest living, we will protest and resist. Truth: The president has only executive authority. He can exercise executive powers and executive influence but cannot originate legislation. Truth: If local authority can become counteracted by congres- sionally enforced taxation, the bureaucracy intends to make us all slaves. Truth: It's high time that the perception of all bureaucratic, big-government centralists who operate out of their so- called "transparent" Washington, D.C. glass houses, should be recognized for the stench of compost that they've inherited by their own actions in misrepresenting revolutionary, free market technology. Truth: When the political factor overrides the intelligence factor throughout the land, *then the mob mentality encompasses more large groups of curious but uninformed status quo, who, because of 1/10th of all the workforce throughout America (bureaucrats) being represented by 100% of the political republican/democrat media spin - spin that can never represent the other 99.9% of the truth, and who assume by their own misled ignorance (or arrogance), that certain scapegoats, who become framed by this "one trick pony" administration, must become targeted as the preferred focal point - scapegoats who represent *only 0.1% of all bonuses paid throughout the AGI complex of all bonuses paid to receivers of bailout funds, yet wrongfully creating the accusation on a single (or group of single) executives - executives that are being made as the culprits for the hidden and self-perpetuating reason of administrative anarchy-gone-populist - this being done through- out the listening and viewing "prime time" malframed land of fawning presidential media, especially as it becomes impossible for an administration of this kind to potentate some witch-hunt on accusation of snobbery on every single bundle of aristocratic "wheat" in assuming that there exists only a single "tare" amongst them. Truth: In Communist and Socialist nations, individuals are guilty until proven innocent. In free societies, there can be no such thing as guilt without burden of proof. Such laws are rooted in positive law. Will, our supposed legal system isn't exactly as it should be, and our government is always pulling whatever strings their faith-based puppet masters are not pulling. Idealistically, there would be no clear distinction between classes of people, because all people would live their lives under positive law, and would have the ability to transform themselves with the renewing of their minds - AS THE KNOWLEDGE BECOMES AVAILABLE TO THEM. All everyone has to do is to believe that "... the one who is in you, is greater than the one who is in the world". (1 John 4:4) - and a way is made to access that knowledge, so that one may bear much (spiritual) fruit according to the spiritual knowledge that God has blessed them with. In such an idealistic nation, the social structure takes care of itself. THERE IS NO NEED TO POLICE HUMAN BEHAVIOR because all actions by groups of believers are made for the enhancement of the entire group. But faith-based groups simply do not police their own kind, not to mention the political favoritism such as our SEC approved Ponzi Mafoff. IMO these kinds of groups that can think for themselves are not being influenced by popular mass media, and they can exercise their own personal freedom and personal privacy by freedom from interference of intrusive government, overtaxation, and urban sprawl. They are, and will always be, the most important part of an America that believes in themselves - rather than having those in the bureaucracy do it for them. American I'm all for self-investing and for policing of your own kind, starting at home. *All kids need to have parents and/or guardians that'll kick serious butt whenever it's necessary. *Regardless, some of us are still going to make honest mistakes, while others are only going to be lost causes. *~ BG- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Funny... some think that God has a mother, because ".. In the beginning was the Word (or Mary, who the idol worshippers say is the mother of God). Thus we have the nanny-state, or even the Mary-state, as a cover for the sins of abortionists, brought to you by the people's choice - like people who endorse the liberal theology of Speaker of the House Pelosi, who might as well be Mother Divine, who in Indian tradition, directs human evolution, by raising the Buddhic state of consciousness to a new level of "renaissance". There is no alternative to open rebellion using abortion as an alternative (Lilith) to "Mary worship". Institutional- ized "Mary worship" will never be able to help the mothers of America - more working men that have respectable, future- driven technology will revolutionize industry, whether the mandarins of Congress approve or not. Unfortunately, this does absolutely nothing for the world to come for any kind of revelatory scientific intuition, because the reasonable, analytical knowledge of men gets erased with the worship of conception as the ultimate symbolism over substance, for which there can be no leading of the spirit out of the ensuing chaos and insurrection of the Mandarins. The country as a whole needs to pray for the working mother. It's real MOTHERS that this country lacks, NOT Nancy Pelosi. This is how far the antiquated, bureaucratic establishment of monopolies has taken us - the need to express our righteous indignation over the prevailing science has never been more severe. American *"The incantation for a spiritual healing to be effective *must include the name of the ailing person's mother." *- (Shabb. 66b) 99.9% of Google Groups (aka Usenet/newsgroups) are pretend-Atheists, so pretty much anything you have to say (good or bad) about God or his/ her followers doesn't matter. How far would Hitler have gotten without the divine help of the Zionist God? How far would our previous LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) have gotten without his trusty faith-based army of born-again minions? ~ BG |
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On Mar 25, 10:14*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:45*pm, American wrote: On Mar 22, 9:31*am, BradGuth wrote: On Mar 21, 10:42*pm, American wrote: On Mar 17, 4:27*pm, BradGuth wrote: How many more greased pigs do we need in American politics? Apparently we need one "greased pig" for every 10 of us. and so 1/10th of the workforce gets represented by 100% republican/democrat spin which won't represent 99% of the truth, even at least 50% of the time. That sounds about right. (Seems like it's time for a makeover). Lies upon Lies upon Lies ------------------------------------- Lie: Bailed-out AIG executives are the only reason that angry mobs should be directed at the entire AIG fallout (700 Billion) , while only 1/10th of 1% of bonuses paid to executives are in the process of being "accused". Lie: Barrack Obama never said that there would be a limiting of "earmarks" on any of pending or enacted legislation. Lie: Sec'ty of Treasury Gytner didn't know about AIG bailouts more than three weeks ago, when the offer to "punish" those who took advantage of bonus money that was the result of the stimulus recommended by socialist democrats. Lie: Preventing abortions is less important than supporting illegal aliens, who would represent larger voting blocs of welfare recipients in a society of anti-capitalists. Lie: Government must enlarge itself in order to create markets for windmills, "green" cars, and more environmental regulation in order to expand the welfare state, anti-capitalism, and isolationism. Lie: The Constitution does not deny legislative authority by Congress. Any act of Congress is constitutional as long as it is made in the interests of the State. Lie: All Acts of Congress are legally enforcable representations of the president's desires. It is hypocritical to claim allegiance and be unwilling to accept presidential wishes enacted by Congress. Submission and allegiance are synonymous. Lie: Refusal to accept Congressional legislation is in itself open rebellion. Intimidations of the IRS justify military occupation. Lie: The purpose of taxation is not political control but, rather, economic security for the bureaucracy. We Hold These Truths to be Self Evident ----------------------------------------------------------- Truth: Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness Truth: It is unconstitutional for either the president or congress to make laws (other than trade regulations) for us. When congressional legislation threatens our ability to make an honest living, we will protest and resist. Truth: The president has only executive authority. He can exercise executive powers and executive influence but cannot originate legislation. Truth: If local authority can become counteracted by congres- sionally enforced taxation, the bureaucracy intends to make us all slaves. Truth: It's high time that the perception of all bureaucratic, big-government centralists who operate out of their so- called "transparent" Washington, D.C. glass houses, should be recognized for the stench of compost that they've inherited by their own actions in misrepresenting revolutionary, free market technology. Truth: When the political factor overrides the intelligence factor throughout the land, *then the mob mentality encompasses more large groups of curious but uninformed status quo, who, because of 1/10th of all the workforce throughout America (bureaucrats) being represented by 100% of the political republican/democrat media spin - spin that can never represent the other 99.9% of the truth, and who assume by their own misled ignorance (or arrogance), that certain scapegoats, who become framed by this "one trick pony" administration, must become targeted as the preferred focal point - scapegoats who represent *only 0.1% of all bonuses paid throughout the AGI complex of all bonuses paid to receivers of bailout funds, yet wrongfully creating the accusation on a single (or group of single) executives - executives that are being made as the culprits for the hidden and self-perpetuating reason of administrative anarchy-gone-populist - this being done through- out the listening and viewing "prime time" malframed land of fawning presidential media, especially as it becomes impossible for an administration of this kind to potentate some witch-hunt on accusation of snobbery on every single bundle of aristocratic "wheat" in assuming that there exists only a single "tare" amongst them. Truth: In Communist and Socialist nations, individuals are guilty until proven innocent. In free societies, there can be no such thing as guilt without burden of proof. Such laws are rooted in positive law. Will, our supposed legal system isn't exactly as it should be, and our government is always pulling whatever strings their faith-based puppet masters are not pulling. Idealistically, there would be no clear distinction between classes of people, because all people would live their lives under positive law, and would have the ability to transform themselves with the renewing of their minds - AS THE KNOWLEDGE BECOMES AVAILABLE TO THEM. All everyone has to do is to believe that "... the one who is in you, is greater than the one who is in the world". (1 John 4:4) - and a way is made to access that knowledge, so that one may bear much (spiritual) fruit according to the spiritual knowledge that God has blessed them with. In such an idealistic nation, the social structure takes care of itself. THERE IS NO NEED TO POLICE HUMAN BEHAVIOR because all actions by groups of believers are made for the enhancement of the entire group. But faith-based groups simply do not police their own kind, not to mention the political favoritism such as our SEC approved Ponzi Mafoff. IMO these kinds of groups that can think for themselves are not being influenced by popular mass media, and they can exercise their own personal freedom and personal privacy by freedom from interference of intrusive government, overtaxation, and urban sprawl. They are, and will always be, the most important part of an America that believes in themselves - rather than having those in the bureaucracy do it for them. American I'm all for self-investing and for policing of your own kind, starting at home. *All kids need to have parents and/or guardians that'll kick serious butt whenever it's necessary. *Regardless, some of us are still going to make honest mistakes, while others are only going to be lost causes. *~ BG- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Funny... some think that God has a mother, because ".. In the beginning was the Word (or Mary, who the idol worshippers say is the mother of God). Thus we have the nanny-state, or even the Mary-state, as a cover for the sins of abortionists, brought to you by the people's choice - like people who endorse the liberal theology of Speaker of the House Pelosi, who might as well be Mother Divine, who in Indian tradition, directs human evolution, by raising the Buddhic state of consciousness to a new level of "renaissance". There is no alternative to open rebellion using abortion as an alternative (Lilith) to "Mary worship". Institutional- ized "Mary worship" will never be able to help the mothers of America - more working men that have respectable, future- driven technology will revolutionize industry, whether the mandarins of Congress approve or not. Unfortunately, this does absolutely nothing for the world to come for any kind of revelatory scientific intuition, because the reasonable, analytical knowledge of men gets erased with the worship of conception as the ultimate symbolism over substance, for which there can be no leading of the spirit out of the ensuing chaos and insurrection of the Mandarins. The country as a whole needs to pray for the working mother. It's real MOTHERS that this country lacks, NOT Nancy Pelosi. This is how far the antiquated, bureaucratic establishment of monopolies has taken us - the need to express our righteous indignation over the prevailing science has never been more severe. American *"The incantation for a spiritual healing to be effective *must include the name of the ailing person's mother." *- (Shabb. 66b) 99.9% of Google Groups (aka Usenet/newsgroups) are pretend-Atheists, so pretty much anything you have to say (good or bad) about God or his/ her followers doesn't matter. How far would Hitler have gotten without the divine help of the Zionist God? How far would our previous LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) have gotten without his trusty faith-based army of born-again minions? *~ BG- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - : 99.9% of Google Groups (aka Usenet/newsgroups) are pretend- : Atheists, so pretty much anything you have to say (good or bad) : about God or his/her followers doesn't matter. Oh, so carnality is more important here? If that's the case then negative law must openly tout its overriding principle in pro- tecting the sinner's rights by replacing a blood covenant with religious freedom for all of humanities good and evil intentions. In other words, the good get better at spiritual things while the evil wax great with more massive fraud and manipulation. Methinks "magic" will win out over the *evil* manipulators. : How far would Hitler have gotten without the divine help of the : Zionist God? As far as he did, which was almost as far as the A-Bomb, minus a few months of cozily coddled science for his Third Reich, except that Hitler became much intellectually out-capitalized as far as the geographical migration of Mr. Albert Einstein was concerned, which took him from Germany to Princeton, where he wrote a letter to then president Franklin D. Roosevelt about the powerful bombs that might be constructed from the chain reaction in uranium. : How far would our previous LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) have : gotten without his trusty faith-based army of born-again : minions? As far as he did, which was as far as to follow his puppetmasters all the way to the NWO, give or take a few presidents or nations, which really doesn't count for much, unless you're of the kind which needs more world central planning (that makes no person better or worse than a species of subhuman - give or take a few bailouts). : ~ BG - |
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On Apr 2, 12:07*pm, American wrote:
On Mar 25, 10:14*pm, BradGuth wrote: On Mar 23, 10:45*pm, American wrote: On Mar 22, 9:31*am, BradGuth wrote: On Mar 21, 10:42*pm, American wrote: On Mar 17, 4:27*pm, BradGuth wrote: How many more greased pigs do we need in American politics? Apparently we need one "greased pig" for every 10 of us. and so 1/10th of the workforce gets represented by 100% republican/democrat spin which won't represent 99% of the truth, even at least 50% of the time. That sounds about right. (Seems like it's time for a makeover). Lies upon Lies upon Lies ------------------------------------- Lie: Bailed-out AIG executives are the only reason that angry mobs should be directed at the entire AIG fallout (700 Billion) , while only 1/10th of 1% of bonuses paid to executives are in the process of being "accused". Lie: Barrack Obama never said that there would be a limiting of "earmarks" on any of pending or enacted legislation. Lie: Sec'ty of Treasury Gytner didn't know about AIG bailouts more than three weeks ago, when the offer to "punish" those who took advantage of bonus money that was the result of the stimulus recommended by socialist democrats. Lie: Preventing abortions is less important than supporting illegal aliens, who would represent larger voting blocs of welfare recipients in a society of anti-capitalists. Lie: Government must enlarge itself in order to create markets for windmills, "green" cars, and more environmental regulation in order to expand the welfare state, anti-capitalism, and isolationism. Lie: The Constitution does not deny legislative authority by Congress. Any act of Congress is constitutional as long as it is made in the interests of the State. Lie: All Acts of Congress are legally enforcable representations of the president's desires. It is hypocritical to claim allegiance and be unwilling to accept presidential wishes enacted by Congress. Submission and allegiance are synonymous. Lie: Refusal to accept Congressional legislation is in itself open rebellion. Intimidations of the IRS justify military occupation. Lie: The purpose of taxation is not political control but, rather, economic security for the bureaucracy. We Hold These Truths to be Self Evident ----------------------------------------------------------- Truth: Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness Truth: It is unconstitutional for either the president or congress to make laws (other than trade regulations) for us. When congressional legislation threatens our ability to make an honest living, we will protest and resist. Truth: The president has only executive authority. He can exercise executive powers and executive influence but cannot originate legislation. Truth: If local authority can become counteracted by congres- sionally enforced taxation, the bureaucracy intends to make us all slaves. Truth: It's high time that the perception of all bureaucratic, big-government centralists who operate out of their so- called "transparent" Washington, D.C. glass houses, should be recognized for the stench of compost that they've inherited by their own actions in misrepresenting revolutionary, free market technology. Truth: When the political factor overrides the intelligence factor throughout the land, *then the mob mentality encompasses more large groups of curious but uninformed status quo, who, because of 1/10th of all the workforce throughout America (bureaucrats) being represented by 100% of the political republican/democrat media spin - spin that can never represent the other 99.9% of the truth, and who assume by their own misled ignorance (or arrogance), that certain scapegoats, who become framed by this "one trick pony" administration, must become targeted as the preferred focal point - scapegoats who represent *only 0.1% of all bonuses paid throughout the AGI complex of all bonuses paid to receivers of bailout funds, yet wrongfully creating the accusation on a single (or group of single) executives - executives that are being made as the culprits for the hidden and self-perpetuating reason of administrative anarchy-gone-populist - this being done through- out the listening and viewing "prime time" malframed land of fawning presidential media, especially as it becomes impossible for an administration of this kind to potentate some witch-hunt on accusation of snobbery on every single bundle of aristocratic "wheat" in assuming that there exists only a single "tare" amongst them. Truth: In Communist and Socialist nations, individuals are guilty until proven innocent. In free societies, there can be no such thing as guilt without burden of proof. Such laws are rooted in positive law. Will, our supposed legal system isn't exactly as it should be, and our government is always pulling whatever strings their faith-based puppet masters are not pulling. Idealistically, there would be no clear distinction between classes of people, because all people would live their lives under positive law, and would have the ability to transform themselves with the renewing of their minds - AS THE KNOWLEDGE BECOMES AVAILABLE TO THEM. All everyone has to do is to believe that "... the one who is in you, is greater than the one who is in the world". (1 John 4:4) - and a way is made to access that knowledge, so that one may bear much (spiritual) fruit according to the spiritual knowledge that God has blessed them with. In such an idealistic nation, the social structure takes care of itself. THERE IS NO NEED TO POLICE HUMAN BEHAVIOR because all actions by groups of believers are made for the enhancement of the entire group. But faith-based groups simply do not police their own kind, not to mention the political favoritism such as our SEC approved Ponzi Mafoff. IMO these kinds of groups that can think for themselves are not being influenced by popular mass media, and they can exercise their own personal freedom and personal privacy by freedom from interference of intrusive government, overtaxation, and urban sprawl. They are, and will always be, the most important part of an America that believes in themselves - rather than having those in the bureaucracy do it for them. American I'm all for self-investing and for policing of your own kind, starting at home. *All kids need to have parents and/or guardians that'll kick serious butt whenever it's necessary. *Regardless, some of us are still going to make honest mistakes, while others are only going to be lost causes. *~ BG- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Funny... some think that God has a mother, because ".. In the beginning was the Word (or Mary, who the idol worshippers say is the mother of God). Thus we have the nanny-state, or even the Mary-state, as a cover for the sins of abortionists, brought to you by the people's choice - like people who endorse the liberal theology of Speaker of the House Pelosi, who might as well be Mother Divine, who in Indian tradition, directs human evolution, by raising the Buddhic state of consciousness to a new level of "renaissance". There is no alternative to open rebellion using abortion as an alternative (Lilith) to "Mary worship". Institutional- ized "Mary worship" will never be able to help the mothers of America - more working men that have respectable, future- driven technology will revolutionize industry, whether the mandarins of Congress approve or not. Unfortunately, this does absolutely nothing for the world to come for any kind of revelatory scientific intuition, because the reasonable, analytical knowledge of men gets erased with the worship of conception as the ultimate symbolism over substance, for which there can be no leading of the spirit out of the ensuing chaos and insurrection of the Mandarins. The country as a whole needs to pray for the working mother. It's real MOTHERS that this country lacks, NOT Nancy Pelosi. This is how far the antiquated, bureaucratic establishment of monopolies has taken us - the need to express our righteous indignation over the prevailing science has never been more severe. American *"The incantation for a spiritual healing to be effective *must include the name of the ailing person's mother." *- (Shabb. 66b) 99.9% of Google Groups (aka Usenet/newsgroups) are pretend-Atheists, so pretty much anything you have to say (good or bad) about God or his/ her followers doesn't matter. How far would Hitler have gotten without the divine help of the Zionist God? How far would our previous LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) have gotten without his trusty faith-based army of born-again minions? *~ BG- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - : 99.9% of Google Groups (aka Usenet/newsgroups) are pretend- : Atheists, so pretty much anything you have to say (good or bad) : about God or his/her followers doesn't matter. Oh, so carnality is more important here? If that's the case then negative law must openly tout its overriding principle in pro- tecting the sinner's rights by replacing a blood covenant with religious freedom for all of humanities good and evil intentions. In other words, the good get better at spiritual things while the evil wax great with more massive fraud and manipulation. Methinks "magic" will win out over the *evil* manipulators. : How far would Hitler have gotten without the divine help of the : Zionist God? As far as he did, which was almost as far as the A-Bomb, minus a few months of cozily coddled science for his Third Reich, except that Hitler became much intellectually out-capitalized as far as the geographical migration of Mr. Albert Einstein was concerned, which took him from Germany to Princeton, where he wrote a letter to then president Franklin D. Roosevelt about the powerful bombs that might be constructed from the chain reaction in uranium. Hitler was a poorly trained artist, had practically no knowledge of physics or science, and much less expertise in global domination. Why exactly are you into protecting those faith-based butts and Zionist ****ologist? Are you suggesting his vast expertise in most everything under the sun came via Atheists, and from Mars none the less? Are you actually suggesting that only the poor German Atheists were educated in physics, biology, advanced chemistry and science? : How far would our previous LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) have : gotten without his trusty faith-based army of born-again : minions? As far as he did, which was as far as to follow his puppetmasters all the way to the NWO, give or take a few presidents or nations, which really doesn't count for much, unless you're of the kind which needs more world central planning (that makes no person better or worse than a species of subhuman - give or take a few bailouts). You are a great kidder, and otherwise a perfectly fine upstanding example of doing whatever it takes for protecting the most guilty and defending their mainstream status quo of denial and obfuscation policy, as though it were on steroids that you provided. You're obvious bipolar as hell to boot. ~ BG |
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On Mar 19, 10:44*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Mar 18, 11:56*am, wrote: Umm... ridding the world of nuclear materials and nuclear weapons improves life on Earth. For the most part that true, although it would be a shame not to use our fair share of thorium for the clean energy that it can deliver. Thorium is a minor constituent at best, and would supply very little power - while perpetuating a system that continues at great risk to public safety. Best to rid the world of ALL nuclear materials and place ALL nuclear materials under international control whose only use is space propulsion and space power - with rockets stationed on the lunar surface, and the only nuclear research is done on the moon's surface. Using nuclear pulse engines built around old weapons materials to orbit large solar power satellites that beam infrared laser energy to users anywhere on demand, improves life on Earth, by lowering the cost of energy, making energy more widely available and more abundant, and ending the endless pollution of our air b ending the use of conventional fuels. Can't argue against that, except we don't have another century to wait. What makes you think it would take a century? Classified reports as early as 1955 showed these vehicles could be built within 5 years of the decision to do so. We could build the fleet of 200 ships each 50,000 ton payload capacity in this time frame - all that is required is the will to do it. Putting in place a large network of multi-point comsats to turn the world into a global wireless hotspot, that supports billions of biometric and VR signalling channels, does the same thing. *Humanoid robots like ASIMO work anywhere driven by workers who live anywhere - this immediately improves life on Earth by providing meaningful and profitable work for all. Again, if we manage to survive the next century and you manage to pull everything off without a hitch. Once the rockets are available putting up the satellites is easy. Mass producing 600 satellites over the same 5 year period is easy. At 20 tonnes each that's 12,000 tonnes - less than 1/4 the lift capacity of a single 50,000 ton ship. The network would be put up as part of a shakedown cruise of the first ship sometime 3 to 4 years from the start of the project. Capturing rich asteroids, using nuclear pulse techniques to bring them into Earth orbit, and using nuclear pulse lifters to place significant remotely controlled factories on them to manufacture stuff and deliver it anwhere its needed on Earth at extremely low cost - dramatically improves life on Earth. Now you're talking of multiple centuries from now, Why do you say that? It takes a nuclear pulse ship less than 90 days to cruise to any point inside the orbit of Jupiter. Over the 5 year period of construction and development, smaller survey ships are built, along with sensor satellites to survey all the small bodies of the solar system. The richest of these will have been identified and recovery techniques worked out and ready when the first ships are ready. A minimum energy transfer orbit from the vicinity of the asteroid belt to Earth takes less than 7 years. So, 12 years from the day we decide to do it, to the arrival of the asteroidal bodies is the reasonable time to consider. Of course during that 7 year transfer time we use the lift capacity to put up remotely operated factories that will use the incoming asteroidal mass as feedstock so we can hit the ground running - and with learning curve effects achieve maximum productivity with full employment on Earth, and $100,000 per person per year income - within 15 years of making the decision to move ahead. unless of course you decide to include our Selene/moon as a viable asteroid to plunder, The moon as already stated must be mined and is at the bottom of a gravity well - neither apply to asteroids and other small bodies which make them easier to mine - and so will be mined first. Beyond 15 years, the moon will be developed - and its gravity well makes it a good repository for nuclear pulse fleet, nuclear research and production reactiors, and nuclear industry for space power applications and space propulsion and nuclear medicine .. as after all it is rather big and nearby as is, even it it were relocated to Earth L1. Earth/Luna L1 is good for a communications satellite that's all. Earth/Sol L1 is good for a sunshade, and a high intensity solar collector array. *or at least within our Selene/ moon. The moon is not particularly rich when compared to some asteroids, riches on the moon are buried deep within the moon and must be extracted, the moon sits at the bottom of a substantial gravity well that without aerobraking adds significant cost to getting materials out of the moon and back to Earth, the moon is more than 1 light second away which means we cannot use present telerobotic techniques as effectively as we can within 1/5th light second of Earth. *The moon will one day be a valuable resource, and one day be a vital inhabited world, using the moon to resolve our materials issues on Earth quickly is more problematical than asteroid capture and processing on orbit as described above. If you say so, Only because it is so. because the physics and science we have thus far doesn't agree with your interpretation. Yes it does. Its far easier to find, capture and transport rich asteroids than to survey the entire moon including its interior, find the rich bits, dig them out, drag them to the surface, and launch them back to Earth. Its far easier to fabricate stuff on orbit by remote control than to have populations living on the surface of the moon. This will happen, but it will not happen before teleoperated factories on orbit happen. *Much like Earth, our Selene/moon even has a sufficient core of geothermal energy. No it does not. Again, your science Science is science - everything I say is firmly rooted in reality. is certainly all alone, No I am not. as here you don't even agree with NASA or a dozen other interpretations. I agree with NASA that Apollo sent brave explorers to the moon in 1960s and 70s Too bad we still do not have a viable fly-by-rocket lander for getting ourselves safely to/from our Selene/moon Your boneheaded contention that the Apollo flights did not occur as described marks you as a profoundly troubled personality. Are you saying that we can use the William Mook fly-by-rocket lander? No, I am saying that Apollo sent a handful of astronauts to the moon in 1969-72 (because the R&D related to our NASA/Apollo one doesn't seem to exist) See? and its nifty L1. Lagrange point 1 between Earth and Sol is more important. *Lunar/Earth L1 is a good place for a communications satellite - that's about it. Where's that Mook imagination? (is Mook going brain-dead on us) Rooted firmly in reality - recall we are speaking of what can be done in the next 10 to 15 years. L1 is a comsat point nothing more. You do realize that Clarke Station and the Boeing OASIS are each engineered to work just perfectly fine and dandy, not to mention my LSE-CM/ISS. You realize that the only practical use we will make of Earth/Luna L1 in the next 10 to 15 years is a comsat point nothing more. *I guess we can only go so far on a given cesspool of mainstream lies. The only cesspool of lies are yours sir. *You love projecting your reality to those outside you. *Fortunately, no one is fooled - except perhaps for you. The cold hard truths of physics and the best available science differs with your negative and often bipolar mindset. I have said nothing negative only pointed out the obvious. Since there's most of everything we need on or within our Selene/moon, what exactly are we waiting for? Please explain in detail how you would proceed and why it would be less expensive speedier and more reliable than what I have described? I've already done that, No you haven't. and you cared less because you're stuck in naysay mode. You have yet to learn that someone telling you something won't work because it won't work is not being negative. They're trying to educate you. *My terrestrial wind energy alone puts your solar PV farms to shame, No they don't. Wind energy will never equal solar energy on a fundamental basis. Wind energy is caused by differential heating of the air by sunlight - for that reason it is never more than 1% of sunlight. On the other hand, sunlight is already converted to energy with over 40% efficiency. not to mention my battery of thorium reactors. The world is safer with no reactors whatever within its biosphere. Solar panels and solar power satellites will allow this to happen. To recap; *1) sign an enhanced nonproliferation treaty and put all 2,000 tons fissile material under international control - Ends the threat of loose nukes *2) use weapons lobs to convert bombs and materials into micro-fission pulse triggers - keeps the weaponeers busy *3) develop nuclear pulse engines around fusion elements triggered b small micro-fission triggers - insipres universal cooperation, unites world in a positive vision of the future. *4) build a fleet of 200 ships each 50,000 ton capacity as interplanetary cruisers - provides substantial capacity at less cost than US Navy. *5) put up a communications satellite network - provide global wireless broadband - establishes mass produced space hardware achieves early price point and productivity needed to advance, provides seamless means to work remotely through telerobotics. *6) put up a power satellite network - provide global wireless power - ends our pollution of the atmosphere, lowers energy costs, and ends energy limits to growth *7) survey the small bodies of the solar system - select the richest of these for retrieval - expands the availability of raw materials while reducing the impact of human industry on Earth's biosphere. *8) retrieve the richest small bodies to sun synch polar orbit - ideal location for orbiting factories, they pass over every point on Earth twice a day. *9) place remotely operated factories on the captured asteroids *- using materials in captured asteroid, processed into useful goods that are then delivered directly from orbit in minutes to anyone anywhere in response to a satellite phone call. 10) expand orbital infrastructure - build products for use IN space - large pressure vessels to house farms, forests and eventually people - adding food and wood and wood products to the products available from space. 11) build large pressure vessels that are capable of floating in Earth's atmosphere - by heating the air within. *These are similar to Buckminster Fuller's Cloud Nine cities proposed in 1962. *Tens of thousands of these cities, each housing up to 100,000 people float through the skies of Earth- supplied with food and water and fiber and products from Orbit - communications available to all. *People work telerobotically anywhere on Earth or Earth orbit from these cities - the cities float to any point on Earth and pick up anyone anywhere on request - freeing the poor and powerless from tyranny. *Large pressure vessels are also built on orbit to house people who arrive there from Earth. 12) homes powered and supplied and connected to space based infrastructure are landed and self-erect anywhere desired. *Many have automated well stocked green houses providing minature farms - all have teleoperated robots that allow people to recieve all manner of personal services in their home telerobotically. *All have a teleoperation suite that allow homeowners to work anywhere and recieve compensation to buy goods and services from the orbiting infrastructure. *MEMs based laser powered rocket arrays - forming propulsive skins on the surface of personal spacecraft - make the home spaceship possible - these too are delivered to people on demand - anywhere - allowing them to travel anywere in minutes, or travel to orbit and back at ease. All these things improve the quality of life on Earth - and it starts with converting nuclear weapons into nuclear triggers for nuclear pulse rockets of tremendous capacity. Your nifty stuff at best is decades away The critical part is getting all the loose nukes and converting them to rockets - and then building the payloads for them. This may all be done in 5 years. As the rockets are being built, comsats and powersats are also being built - and all are deployed by the fleet of 200 on their way to the asteroid belt - so our energy problems and communications and labor problems will all be resolved within 5 years of our decision to resolve them. Within 12 years of our decision we will have factories on orbit and asteroids to feed them - and products will rain down from orbit everywhere in great abundance. The whole program outlined above will take 12 years no more. and going to cost us trillions. * Yes. Our global economy is presently $70 trillion per year. We have $40 trillion in liquid assets available to us from 10.4 million millionaires - and this investment will grow our economy to $600 trillion in 12 years. It will cost $18 trillion to implement spent over 12 years. That's $1.5 trillion per year . At present the world spends $1.8 trillion per year on military operations. The world enters a mutual defense treaty and spends $0.3 trillion on mutual defense - ends all war spending - ends organized crime - and takes the savings and spends it on this program, and asks the private sector for matching funds. This provides easily $36 trillion without taking money from any other program save warfare while providing $600 trillion PER YEAR return by employing everyone more efficiently than at present. Our Selene/moon is right here and now, You would do well to look at the energetics, rather than the geometry. although so is the rather easy access to the planet Venus. Venus' escape velocity equals that of Earth. Its surface conditions are intolerable, and finding rich bits to exploit is nigh impossible under those conditions, as well as exploiting them. Venus I have no doubt will one day be developed. It will not be complted in 15 years as asteroid capture and development is. Your terrestrial solutions are certainly going against Big Energy, so much so that they'll never happen until long after you're dead. Big energy is already dead, they don't know it yet. However, one or two out of the above 12 should work, and that's still better than most. You have no basis to make any statements like that. *Your original green hydrogen economy is certainly a win-win-win, Yes, I am already buying up power plants and coal mines. even if you refuse to make any h2o2 Only because there is no point to it. (seems you'd just as soon outlaw the makings of h2o2). Why outlaw something that's uneconomic, pointless and stupid? No one will do it because there's no point - except maybe as a specialty energy source - iike small MEMs based power supplies - we've already been over this many many times. *~ BG |
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Your anti-thorium, anti-h2o2, anti-Selene/moon L1 and anti most
anything else that's not your mindset idea to start with, is noted. Good thing there's no chance in hell of you ever being in charge of NASA, DARPA, DoE or anything else that matters. God forbid should you even be within any related think-tank, other than as world dictator. Your CIA World FactBook bible is more than enough reason to avoid the bipolar mindset of Mook. Can we now assume you are a born-again Scientology member in good standing? ~ BG On Apr 2, 9:08*pm, wrote: On Mar 19, 10:44*pm, BradGuth wrote: On Mar 18, 11:56*am, wrote: Umm... ridding the world of nuclear materials and nuclear weapons improves life on Earth. For the most part that true, although it would be a shame not to use our fair share of thorium for the clean energy that it can deliver. Thorium is a minor constituent at best, and would supply very little power - while perpetuating a system that continues at great risk to public safety. *Best to rid the world of ALL nuclear materials and place ALL nuclear materials under international control whose only use is space propulsion and space power - with rockets stationed on the lunar surface, and the only nuclear research is done on the moon's surface. Using nuclear pulse engines built around old weapons materials to orbit large solar power satellites that beam infrared laser energy to users anywhere on demand, improves life on Earth, by lowering the cost of energy, making energy more widely available and more abundant, and ending the endless pollution of our air b ending the use of conventional fuels. Can't argue against that, except we don't have another century to wait. What makes you think it would take a century? *Classified reports as early as 1955 showed these vehicles could be built within 5 years of the decision to do so. *We could build the fleet of 200 ships each 50,000 ton payload capacity in this time frame - all that is required is the will to do it. Putting in place a large network of multi-point comsats to turn the world into a global wireless hotspot, that supports billions of biometric and VR signalling channels, does the same thing. *Humanoid robots like ASIMO work anywhere driven by workers who live anywhere - this immediately improves life on Earth by providing meaningful and profitable work for all. Again, if we manage to survive the next century and you manage to pull everything off without a hitch. Once the rockets are available putting up the satellites is easy. Mass producing 600 satellites over the same 5 year period is easy. *At 20 tonnes each that's 12,000 tonnes - less than 1/4 the lift capacity of a single 50,000 ton ship. *The network would be put up as part of a shakedown cruise of the first ship sometime 3 to 4 years from the start of the project. Capturing rich asteroids, using nuclear pulse techniques to bring them into Earth orbit, and using nuclear pulse lifters to place significant remotely controlled factories on them to manufacture stuff and deliver it anwhere its needed on Earth at extremely low cost - dramatically improves life on Earth. Now you're talking of multiple centuries from now, Why do you say that? *It takes a nuclear pulse ship less than 90 days to cruise to any point inside the orbit of Jupiter. *Over the 5 year period of construction and development, smaller survey ships are built, along with sensor satellites to survey all the small bodies of the solar system. *The richest of these will have been identified and recovery techniques worked out and ready when the first ships are ready. *A minimum energy transfer orbit from the vicinity of the asteroid belt to Earth takes less than 7 years. *So, 12 years from the day we decide to do it, to the arrival of the asteroidal bodies is the reasonable time to consider. *Of course during that 7 year transfer time we use the lift capacity to put up remotely operated factories that will use the incoming asteroidal mass as feedstock so we can hit the ground running - and with learning curve effects achieve maximum productivity with full employment on Earth, and $100,000 per person per year income - within 15 years of making the decision to move ahead. unless of course you decide to include our Selene/moon as a viable asteroid to plunder, The moon as already stated must be mined and is at the bottom of a gravity well - neither apply to asteroids and other small bodies which make them easier to mine - and so will be mined first. *Beyond 15 years, the moon will be developed - and its gravity well makes it a good repository for nuclear pulse fleet, nuclear research and production reactiors, and nuclear industry for space power applications and space propulsion and nuclear medicine . as after all it is rather big and nearby as is, even it it were relocated to Earth L1. Earth/Luna L1 is good for a communications satellite that's all. Earth/Sol L1 is good for a sunshade, and a high intensity solar collector array. *or at least within our Selene/ moon. The moon is not particularly rich when compared to some asteroids, riches on the moon are buried deep within the moon and must be extracted, the moon sits at the bottom of a substantial gravity well that without aerobraking adds significant cost to getting materials out of the moon and back to Earth, the moon is more than 1 light second away which means we cannot use present telerobotic techniques as effectively as we can within 1/5th light second of Earth. *The moon will one day be a valuable resource, and one day be a vital inhabited world, using the moon to resolve our materials issues on Earth quickly is more problematical than asteroid capture and processing on orbit as described above. If you say so, Only because it is so. because the physics and science we have thus far doesn't agree with your interpretation. Yes it does. * Its far easier to find, capture and transport rich asteroids than to survey the entire moon including its interior, find the rich bits, dig them out, drag them to the surface, and launch them back to Earth. *Its far easier to fabricate stuff on orbit by remote control than to have populations living on the surface of the moon. This will happen, but it will not happen before teleoperated factories on orbit happen. *Much like Earth, our Selene/moon even has a sufficient core of geothermal energy. No it does not. Again, your science Science is science - everything I say is firmly rooted in reality. is certainly all alone, No I am not. as here you don't even agree with NASA or a dozen other interpretations. I agree with NASA that Apollo sent brave explorers to the moon in 1960s and 70s Too bad we still do not have a viable fly-by-rocket lander for getting ourselves safely to/from our Selene/moon Your boneheaded contention that the Apollo flights did not occur as described marks you as a profoundly troubled personality. Are you saying that we can use the William Mook fly-by-rocket lander? No, I am saying that Apollo sent a handful of astronauts to the moon in 1969-72 (because the R&D related to our NASA/Apollo one doesn't seem to exist) See? and its nifty L1. Lagrange point 1 between Earth and Sol is more important. *Lunar/Earth L1 is a good place for a communications satellite - that's about it. Where's that Mook imagination? (is Mook going brain-dead on us) Rooted firmly in reality - recall we are speaking of what can be done in the next 10 to 15 years. *L1 is a comsat point nothing more. You do realize that Clarke Station and the Boeing OASIS are each engineered to work just perfectly fine and dandy, not to mention my LSE-CM/ISS. You realize that the only practical use we will make of Earth/Luna L1 in the next 10 to 15 years is a comsat point nothing more. *I guess we can only go so far on a given cesspool of mainstream lies. The only cesspool of lies are yours sir. *You love projecting your reality to those outside you. *Fortunately, no one is fooled - except perhaps for you. The cold hard truths of physics and the best available science differs with your negative and often bipolar mindset. I have said nothing negative only pointed out the obvious. Since there's most of everything we need on or within our Selene/moon, what exactly are we waiting for? Please explain in detail how you would proceed and why it would be less expensive speedier and more reliable than what I have described? I've already done that, No you haven't. and you cared less because you're stuck in naysay mode. You have yet to learn that someone telling you something won't work because it won't work is not being negative. *They're trying to educate you. *My terrestrial wind energy alone puts your solar PV farms to shame, No they don't. *Wind energy will never equal solar energy on a fundamental basis. *Wind energy is caused by differential heating of the air by sunlight - for that reason it is never more than 1% of sunlight. *On the other hand, sunlight is already converted to energy with over 40% efficiency. not to mention my battery of thorium reactors. The world is safer with no reactors whatever within its biosphere. Solar panels and solar power satellites will allow this to happen. To recap; *1) sign an enhanced nonproliferation treaty and put all 2,000 tons fissile material under international control - Ends the threat of loose nukes *2) use weapons lobs to convert bombs and materials into micro-fission pulse triggers - keeps the weaponeers busy *3) develop nuclear pulse engines around fusion elements triggered b small micro-fission triggers - insipres universal cooperation, unites world in a positive vision of the future. *4) build a fleet of 200 ships each 50,000 ton capacity as interplanetary cruisers - provides substantial capacity at less cost than US Navy. *5) put up a communications satellite network - provide global wireless broadband - establishes mass produced space hardware achieves early price point and productivity needed to advance, provides seamless means to work remotely through telerobotics. *6) put up a power satellite network - provide global wireless power - ends our pollution of the atmosphere, lowers energy costs, and ends energy limits to growth *7) survey the small bodies of the solar system - select the richest of these for retrieval - expands the availability of raw materials while reducing the impact of human industry on Earth's biosphere. *8) retrieve the richest small bodies to sun synch polar orbit - ideal location for orbiting factories, they pass over every point on Earth twice a day. *9) place remotely operated factories on the captured asteroids *- using materials in captured asteroid, processed into useful goods that are then delivered directly from orbit in minutes to anyone anywhere in response to a satellite phone call. 10) expand orbital infrastructure - build products for use IN space - large pressure vessels to house farms, forests and eventually people - adding food and wood and wood products to the products available from space. 11) build large pressure vessels that are capable of floating in Earth's atmosphere - by heating the air within. *These are similar to Buckminster Fuller's Cloud Nine cities proposed in 1962. *Tens of thousands of these cities, each housing up to 100,000 people float through the skies of Earth- supplied with food and water and fiber and products from Orbit - communications available to all. *People work telerobotically anywhere on Earth or Earth orbit from these cities - the cities float to any point on Earth and pick up anyone anywhere on request - freeing the poor and powerless from tyranny. *Large pressure vessels are also built on orbit to house people who arrive there from Earth. 12) homes powered and supplied and connected to space based infrastructure are landed and self-erect anywhere desired. *Many have automated well stocked green houses providing minature farms - all have teleoperated robots that allow people to recieve all manner of personal services in their home telerobotically. *All have a teleoperation suite that allow homeowners to work anywhere and recieve compensation to buy goods and services from the orbiting infrastructure. *MEMs based laser powered rocket arrays - forming propulsive skins on the surface of personal spacecraft - make the home spaceship possible - these too are delivered to people on demand - anywhere - allowing them to travel anywere in minutes, or travel to orbit and back at ease. All these things improve the quality of life on Earth - and it starts with converting nuclear weapons into nuclear triggers for nuclear pulse rockets of tremendous capacity. Your nifty stuff at best is decades away The critical part is getting all the loose nukes and converting them to rockets - and then building the payloads for them. *This may all be done in 5 years. As the rockets are being built, comsats and powersats are also being built - and all are deployed by the fleet of 200 on their way to the asteroid belt - so our energy problems and communications and labor problems will all be resolved within 5 years of our decision to resolve them. Within 12 years of our decision we will have factories on orbit and asteroids to feed them - and products will rain down from orbit everywhere in great abundance. The whole program outlined above will take 12 years no more. and going to cost us trillions. * Yes. *Our global economy is presently $70 trillion per year. *We have $40 trillion in liquid assets available to us from 10.4 million millionaires - and this investment will grow our economy to $600 trillion in 12 years. *It will cost $18 trillion to implement spent over 12 years. *That's $1.5 trillion per year . *At present the world spends $1.8 trillion per year on military operations. *The world enters a mutual defense treaty and spends $0.3 trillion on mutual defense - ends all war spending - ends organized crime - and takes the savings and spends it on this program, and asks the private sector for matching funds. *This provides easily $36 trillion without taking money from any other program save warfare while providing $600 trillion PER YEAR return by employing everyone more efficiently than at present. Our Selene/moon is right here and now, You would do well to look at the energetics, rather than the geometry. although so is the rather easy access to the planet Venus. Venus' escape velocity equals that of Earth. *Its surface conditions are intolerable, and finding rich bits to exploit is nigh impossible under those conditions, as well as exploiting them. *Venus I have no doubt will one day be developed. *It will not be complted in 15 years as asteroid capture and development is. Your terrestrial solutions are certainly going against Big Energy, so much so that they'll never happen until long after you're dead. Big energy is already dead, they don't know it yet. However, one or two out of the above 12 should work, and that's still better than most. You have no basis to make any statements like that. *Your original green hydrogen economy is certainly a win-win-win, Yes, I am already buying up power plants and coal mines. even if you refuse to make any h2o2 Only because there is no point to it. (seems you'd just as soon outlaw the makings of h2o2). Why outlaw something that's uneconomic, pointless and stupid? *No one will do it because there's no point - except maybe as a specialty energy source - iike small MEMs based power supplies - we've already been over this *many many times. *~ BG |
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On Apr 3, 1:31*am, BradGuth wrote:
Your anti-thorium, anti-h2o2, anti-Selene/moon L1 and anti most anything else that's not your mindset idea to start with, is noted. Merely pointing out the reality that thorium is a minor constituent of the world's 2000 tons of fissile material, that thorium is more deadly than uranium or plutonium, and that the use of any fissile material in any form within Earth's biosphere perpetuates a deadly risk to all life on Earth is not being anti -anything. Its merely pointing out reality - something you have difficulty with apparently. That's your problem, not mine, or reality's. H2O2 is vastly less energetic than any other fuel, less stable, has a shorter shelf life, and is more costly - this doesn't make ME anything - these are the realities about hydrogen peroxide as fuels. Notwithstanding these shortcomings, H2O2 is more energetic and less costly and less polluting than batteries. So, this is an obvious application - which again is a minor constituent in our total energy picture - a reality I was also careful to point out. Lagrange point 1 is useful as a communications satellite locale - nothing more. The grandiose schemes you have imagined for it are not reality based. Pointing this out is not anti- anything - merely reporting what is real and what is not. So your comment is again flawed. Good thing there's no chance in hell of you ever being in charge of NASA, DARPA, DoE or anything else that matters. * All that matters to me is what I think and do and achieve on my own. Interesting that you alternately hold up the very agencies you pillory in other posts - this suggests you are mentally unstable - and should really examine your beliefs more closely. God forbid should you even be within any related think-tank, other than as world dictator. This makes no sense whatever - which isn't surprising since your other statements make little sense and are totally unhinged from reality. Your CIA World FactBook bible A bible is faith based. The CIA World Factbook is fact based. If there are errors in the factbook - why don't you spell them out? I am certain it would make quite a stir. If you know of not even a single error in the factbook - why do you insist it is faith based and not fact based? You really don't make any sense whatever. Of course you know that. is more than enough reason to avoid the bipolar mindset of Mook. * What evidence do you have that I am bipolar? I consistently answer your inane claims by pointing out the reality of the situation and suggest reality based answers to the questions you ask that make any sense. Can we now assume you are a born-again Scientology member in good standing? I have said nothing about scientology - so, again it makes absolutely no sense for you to bring it up - except as an attempt to avoid talking about the obvious reality that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. *~ BG On Apr 2, 9:08*pm, wrote: On Mar 19, 10:44*pm, BradGuth wrote: On Mar 18, 11:56*am, wrote: Umm... ridding the world of nuclear materials and nuclear weapons improves life on Earth. For the most part that true, although it would be a shame not to use our fair share of thorium for the clean energy that it can deliver. Thorium is a minor constituent at best, and would supply very little power - while perpetuating a system that continues at great risk to public safety. *Best to rid the world of ALL nuclear materials and place ALL nuclear materials under international control whose only use is space propulsion and space power - with rockets stationed on the lunar surface, and the only nuclear research is done on the moon's surface. Using nuclear pulse engines built around old weapons materials to orbit large solar power satellites that beam infrared laser energy to users anywhere on demand, improves life on Earth, by lowering the cost of energy, making energy more widely available and more abundant, and ending the endless pollution of our air b ending the use of conventional fuels. Can't argue against that, except we don't have another century to wait. What makes you think it would take a century? *Classified reports as early as 1955 showed these vehicles could be built within 5 years of the decision to do so. *We could build the fleet of 200 ships each 50,000 ton payload capacity in this time frame - all that is required is the will to do it. Putting in place a large network of multi-point comsats to turn the world into a global wireless hotspot, that supports billions of biometric and VR signalling channels, does the same thing. *Humanoid robots like ASIMO work anywhere driven by workers who live anywhere - this immediately improves life on Earth by providing meaningful and profitable work for all. Again, if we manage to survive the next century and you manage to pull everything off without a hitch. Once the rockets are available putting up the satellites is easy. Mass producing 600 satellites over the same 5 year period is easy. *At 20 tonnes each that's 12,000 tonnes - less than 1/4 the lift capacity of a single 50,000 ton ship. *The network would be put up as part of a shakedown cruise of the first ship sometime 3 to 4 years from the start of the project. Capturing rich asteroids, using nuclear pulse techniques to bring them into Earth orbit, and using nuclear pulse lifters to place significant remotely controlled factories on them to manufacture stuff and deliver it anwhere its needed on Earth at extremely low cost - dramatically improves life on Earth. Now you're talking of multiple centuries from now, Why do you say that? *It takes a nuclear pulse ship less than 90 days to cruise to any point inside the orbit of Jupiter. *Over the 5 year period of construction and development, smaller survey ships are built, along with sensor satellites to survey all the small bodies of the solar system. *The richest of these will have been identified and recovery techniques worked out and ready when the first ships are ready. *A minimum energy transfer orbit from the vicinity of the asteroid belt to Earth takes less than 7 years. *So, 12 years from the day we decide to do it, to the arrival of the asteroidal bodies is the reasonable time to consider. *Of course during that 7 year transfer time we use the lift capacity to put up remotely operated factories that will use the incoming asteroidal mass as feedstock so we can hit the ground running - and with learning curve effects achieve maximum productivity with full employment on Earth, and $100,000 per person per year income - within 15 years of making the decision to move ahead. unless of course you decide to include our Selene/moon as a viable asteroid to plunder, The moon as already stated must be mined and is at the bottom of a gravity well - neither apply to asteroids and other small bodies which make them easier to mine - and so will be mined first. *Beyond 15 years, the moon will be developed - and its gravity well makes it a good repository for nuclear pulse fleet, nuclear research and production reactiors, and nuclear industry for space power applications and space propulsion and nuclear medicine . as after all it is rather big and nearby as is, even it it were relocated to Earth L1. Earth/Luna L1 is good for a communications satellite that's all. Earth/Sol L1 is good for a sunshade, and a high intensity solar collector array. *or at least within our Selene/ moon. The moon is not particularly rich when compared to some asteroids, riches on the moon are buried deep within the moon and must be extracted, the moon sits at the bottom of a substantial gravity well that without aerobraking adds significant cost to getting materials out of the moon and back to Earth, the moon is more than 1 light second away which means we cannot use present telerobotic techniques as effectively as we can within 1/5th light second of Earth. *The moon will one day be a valuable resource, and one day be a vital inhabited world, using the moon to resolve our materials issues on Earth quickly is more problematical than asteroid capture and processing on orbit as described above. If you say so, Only because it is so. because the physics and science we have thus far doesn't agree with your interpretation. Yes it does. * Its far easier to find, capture and transport rich asteroids than to survey the entire moon including its interior, find the rich bits, dig them out, drag them to the surface, and launch them back to Earth. *Its far easier to fabricate stuff on orbit by remote control than to have populations living on the surface of the moon. This will happen, but it will not happen before teleoperated factories on orbit happen. *Much like Earth, our Selene/moon even has a sufficient core of geothermal energy. No it does not. Again, your science Science is science - everything I say is firmly rooted in reality. is certainly all alone, No I am not. as here you don't even agree with NASA or a dozen other interpretations. I agree with NASA that Apollo sent brave explorers to the moon in 1960s and 70s Too bad we still do not have a viable fly-by-rocket lander for getting ourselves safely to/from our Selene/moon Your boneheaded contention that the Apollo flights did not occur as described marks you as a profoundly troubled personality. Are you saying that we can use the William Mook fly-by-rocket lander? No, I am saying that Apollo sent a handful of astronauts to the moon in 1969-72 (because the R&D related to our NASA/Apollo one doesn't seem to exist) See? and its nifty L1. Lagrange point 1 between Earth and Sol is more important. *Lunar/Earth L1 is a good place for a communications satellite - that's about it.. Where's that Mook imagination? (is Mook going brain-dead on us) Rooted firmly in reality - recall we are speaking of what can be done in the next 10 to 15 years. *L1 is a comsat point nothing more. You do realize that Clarke Station and the Boeing OASIS are each engineered to work just perfectly fine and dandy, not to mention my LSE-CM/ISS. You realize that the only practical use we will make of Earth/Luna L1 in the next 10 to 15 years is a comsat point nothing more. *I guess we can only go so far on a given cesspool of mainstream lies. The only cesspool of lies are yours sir. *You love projecting your reality to those outside you. *Fortunately, no one is fooled - except perhaps for you. The cold hard truths of physics and the best available science differs with your negative and often bipolar mindset. I have said nothing negative only pointed out the obvious. Since there's most of everything we need on or within our Selene/moon, what exactly are we waiting for? Please explain in detail how you would proceed and why it would be less expensive speedier and more reliable than what I have described? I've already done that, No you haven't. and you cared less because you're stuck in naysay mode. You have yet to learn that someone telling you something won't work because it won't work is not being negative. *They're trying to educate you. *My terrestrial wind energy alone puts your solar PV farms to shame, No they don't. *Wind energy will never equal solar energy on a fundamental basis. *Wind energy is caused by differential heating of the air by sunlight - for that reason it is never more than 1% of sunlight. *On the other hand, sunlight is already converted to energy with over 40% efficiency. not to mention my battery of thorium reactors. The world is safer with no reactors whatever within its biosphere. Solar panels and solar power ... read more » |
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On Apr 2, 12:07*pm, American wrote:
: 99.9% of Google Groups (aka Usenet/newsgroups) are pretend- : Atheists, so pretty much anything you have to say (good or bad) : about God or his/her followers doesn't matter. Oh, so carnality is more important here? If that's the case then negative law must openly tout its overriding principle in pro- tecting the sinner's rights by replacing a blood covenant with religious freedom for all of humanities good and evil intentions. In other words, the good get better at spiritual things while the evil wax great with more massive fraud and manipulation. Methinks "magic" will win out over the *evil* manipulators. : How far would Hitler have gotten without the divine help of the : Zionist God? As far as he did, which was almost as far as the A-Bomb, minus a few months of cozily coddled science for his Third Reich, except that Hitler became much intellectually out-capitalized as far as the geographical migration of Mr. Albert Einstein was concerned, which took him from Germany to Princeton, where he wrote a letter to then president Franklin D. Roosevelt about the powerful bombs that might be constructed from the chain reaction in uranium. : How far would our previous LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) have : gotten without his trusty faith-based army of born-again : minions? As far as he did, which was as far as to follow his puppetmasters all the way to the NWO, give or take a few presidents or nations, which really doesn't count for much, unless you're of the kind which needs more world central planning (that makes no person better or worse than a species of subhuman - give or take a few bailouts). You know, only official spooks and moles would quote so much context and then proceed to twist everything in order to suit their pro Zionist Nazi and New World Order mindset. Excluding religion involvement from government is a typical ruse/sting that out MI5/CIA and DARPA have used for decades. Even the Usenet/ newsgroup rabbis are big on this kind of obfuscation and denial tactic. ~ BG |
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On Apr 2, 5:25*pm, BradGuth wrote:
: Hitler was a poorly trained artist, had practically no knowledge of : physics or science, and much less expertise in global domination. Much less expertise in global domination? Are you kidding? Then why did it take all of France, England, and the U.S. to stop your so-called "poorly trained artist" from becoming one of the most successful evil geniuses of all time? Was it mainly because the time of the end of the church age was not at hand as of yet? Who's timing was/is being used here? So now that the whole world has got all of its "Christian" denominations, or factions - and along with this, all of the multi- farious ways of communicating "the message" to the rest of the world, with each and every denomination vying for a piece of the type and style of invitation, let alone the broadcasting medium and/or meeting house that will host each event, you have the actual market conditions for preferential treatment to the "establishment" types, who now inadvertantly become (through our presently monetary policy) part of the NWO, as most all technologically derived societies whose monetary systems will become interdependent according to what the G20, and finally, the 4th beast must dictate to them (ref. Daniel 7:2-8, Daniel 7:17-23). This is not what the rest of humanity planned, because most humans today have absolutely no idea that, IMO, they are allowing themselves to become tricked by another fallen creature's desire to protect itself from the ensuing chaos that is about to take place over the face of the whole earth, at the expense of the spiritually ignorant and morally stupid. : Why exactly are you into protecting those faith-based butts and : Zionist ****ologist? The Old Testament is not *just for Zionists*. I talked about this before. Only *some* American Jews are Zionists. There is a growing group of conservative Jews who practice Judaism in this country and abroad who are definitely NOT Zionist, (ref. what Rabbi Weiss has to say about it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9OIqy6md9w In short, many of the people OF ISRAEL do not want any kind of state, national, or internationally mandated control with jurisdiction over faith as "corporations" under a 501(c)(3) world type regulation. The rest of the world has absolutely no authority to regulate what is to be said and what is not to be said according to either the Torah, the Kabbalah, or Scripture. : Are you suggesting his vast expertise in most everything under : the sun came via Atheists, and from Mars none the less? Knowledge without wisdom is an exercise in futility. I'd rather go with the wisdom that followed Lot out of Sodom and Gomorrah than a secret alien base on Mars any day. : Are you actually suggesting that only the poor German Atheists : were educated in physics, biology, advanced chemistry : and science? Nonetheless, many poor American (or German, for that matter) denominationalists, who will blindly accept their physics, biology, chemistry, and science "status quo" can never have the ability to recouncil people like Machiavelli with the the teaching of the bible - therefore, they remain trapped in observing the choreography of their mediatrixed dance-with-the-devil more than with the substancial issues of the day. : How far would our previous LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) have : gotten without his trusty faith-based army of born-again : minions? As far as he did, which was as far as to follow his puppetmasters all the way to the NWO, give or take a few presidents or nations, which really doesn't count for much, unless you're of the kind which needs more world central planning (that makes no person better or worse than a species of subhuman - give or take a few bailouts). : You are a great kidder, and otherwise a perfectly fine upstanding : example of doing whatever it takes for protecting the most guilty : and defending their mainstream status quo of denial and : obfuscation policy, as though it were on steroids that : you provided. As usual, you're pettifogging the real truth behind whatever the bureaucracy will do to further empower itself by way of its illegal printing of federal reserve notes, without the least bit of regard for who pays in the long run, and as long as our free market competition is ruled out, successful and independent entre- preneurialism is ruled out, intelligence within intelligent design is ruled out, and consititutional freedom from tyranny are ruled out, so we can all be rest assured that people like Neville Chamberlain have our best interests at heart. Still looking for our moment in the sun? : You're obvious bipolar as hell to boot. Not unless there's darn good reason to be alarmed that the money being spent today by our government really doesn't have a face on it - and the face that you DO see is a lie - the currency is now being prostituted worldwide to an international corporate conglomorate of ruthless earth-based investors who could care less about what happens anywhere else except in their own back yards. : ~ BG Face it, if you can't EAT money, what good is it? American |
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