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  #31  
Old January 20th 19, 06:55 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Ninapenda Jibini
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Default CERN plans to build what the U.S. should have 23 years ago

Paul Schlyter wrote in
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:06 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:
The entire northern hemisphere from 35 deg up


Up? Not northwards?

You know, "up" is away from the Earth's surface towards space.
"Up" is not along the Earth's surface towards the north pole...

But 40 degrees is mathematically up from 35 degees.

He doesn't need any help to look like an idiot, especially in such a
pathetic attempt.

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  #32  
Old January 20th 19, 11:18 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default CERN plans to build what the U.S. should have 23 years ago

On Sunday, 20 January 2019 00:57:13 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:06 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:

On Saturday, 19 January 2019 09:39:03 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 19:51:31 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:

On Friday, 18 January 2019 12:24:33 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 09:00:46 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
wrote:

We don't need to sacrifice investment in scientific
infrastructure to build carbon sequestration systems and other
systems to minimize the impact of global warming.

Only if there's enough money to do both. People smarter than you (and
who isn't, you being a Chris and all) are skeptical that's the case.

There is enough money for both, especially when you factor in the
trillions of dollars of cost incurred by global warming.

Cold killed 5 million people last year.

Clueless.


Warmth saves lives, cold kills. Warmer environments increase numbers and diversity of life. The fossil record shows it, current tropical areas prove it. There is NO benefit in keeping the planet cold. The entire northern hemisphere from 35 deg up is only survivable because of human control of energy.


In fact, nobody actually knows if more people die from warm or cold
conditions.


LIAR. Cold kills millions that might not have died otherwise. I'm not talking about healthy individuals who happened to stray into a wilderness and froze to death (although that happens a lot more than dying on a Hawaiian beach) but people whose conditions pre-dispose them to vulnerability to cold. Everything is worse in cold, including epidemics.

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Old January 21st 19, 12:31 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Ninapenda Jibini
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Default CERN plans to build what the U.S. should have 23 years ago

RichA wrote in
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On Sunday, 20 January 2019 00:57:13 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:06 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:

On Saturday, 19 January 2019 09:39:03 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 19:51:31 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:

On Friday, 18 January 2019 12:24:33 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 09:00:46 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimis

ha
wrote:

We don't need to sacrifice investment in scientific
infrastructure to build carbon sequestration systems
and other systems to minimize the impact of global
warming.

Only if there's enough money to do both. People smarter
than you (

and
who isn't, you being a Chris and all) are skeptical
that's the cas

e.

There is enough money for both, especially when you
factor in the trillions of dollars of cost incurred by
global warming.

Cold killed 5 million people last year.

Clueless.

Warmth saves lives, cold kills. Warmer environments increase
numbers an

d diversity of life. The fossil record shows it, current
tropical areas prove it. There is NO benefit in keeping the
planet cold. The entire northern hemisphere from 35 deg up is
only survivable because of human control of energy.

In fact, nobody actually knows if more people die from warm or
cold conditions.


LIAR. Cold kills millions that might not have died otherwise.
I'm not talking about healthy individuals who happened to stray
into a wilderness and froze to death (although that happens a
lot more than dying on a Hawaiian beach) but people whose
conditions pre-dispose them to vulnerability to cold.
Everything is worse in cold, including epidemics.

Do you have a source for that claim? Or are you talking out of your
ass as usual?

Thought so.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
  #34  
Old January 21st 19, 03:01 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Paul Schlyter[_3_]
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Default CERN plans to build what the U.S. should have 23 years ago

On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 06:55:03 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
wrote:
Paul Schlyter wrote in
:


On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:06 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:
The entire northern hemisphere from 35 deg up


Up? Not northwards?

You know, "up" is away from the Earth's surface towards space.
"Up" is not along the Earth's surface towards the north pole...

But 40 degrees is mathematically up from 35 degees.


By that logic going down in a cave or a mine is also going up because
200 meters below ground is mathematically up from 100 meters below
ground...
  #35  
Old January 21st 19, 06:34 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Ninapenda Jibini
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Default CERN plans to build what the U.S. should have 23 years ago

Paul Schlyter wrote in
:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 06:55:03 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
wrote:
Paul Schlyter wrote in
:


On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:06 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:
The entire northern hemisphere from 35 deg up

Up? Not northwards?

You know, "up" is away from the Earth's surface towards
space. "Up" is not along the Earth's surface towards the
north pole...

But 40 degrees is mathematically up from 35 degees.


By that logic going down in a cave or a mine is also going up
because 200 meters below ground is mathematically up from 100
meters below ground...

Are you competing for "stupidest person in the group"? Cuz I don't
think you really have a chance against Skippy and Pinhead, but hey,
it's good to have a dream!

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
  #36  
Old January 21st 19, 02:51 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Paul Schlyter[_3_]
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Default CERN plans to build what the U.S. should have 23 years ago

On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 06:34:33 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
wrote:
Paul Schlyter wrote in
:


On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 06:55:03 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
wrote:
Paul Schlyter wrote in
:


On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:06 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:
The entire northern hemisphere from 35 deg up

Up? Not northwards?

You know, "up" is away from the Earth's surface towards
space. "Up" is not along the Earth's surface towards the
north pole...

But 40 degrees is mathematically up from 35 degees.


By that logic going down in a cave or a mine is also going up
because 200 meters below ground is mathematically up from 100
meters below ground...

Are you competing for "stupidest person in the group"? Cuz I don't
think you really have a chance against Skippy and Pinhead, but hey,
it's good to have a dream!


I wouldn't have chance against you either...
  #37  
Old January 21st 19, 04:10 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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Default CERN plans to build what the U.S. should have 23 years ago

Paul Schlyter wrote in
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 06:34:33 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
wrote:
Paul Schlyter wrote in
:


On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 06:55:03 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
wrote:
Paul Schlyter wrote in
:

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:06 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:
The entire northern hemisphere from 35 deg up

Up? Not northwards?

You know, "up" is away from the Earth's surface towards
space. "Up" is not along the Earth's surface towards the
north pole...

But 40 degrees is mathematically up from 35 degees.

By that logic going down in a cave or a mine is also going up
because 200 meters below ground is mathematically up from 100
meters below ground...

Are you competing for "stupidest person in the group"? Cuz I
don't think you really have a chance against Skippy and
Pinhead, but hey, it's good to have a dream!


I wouldn't have chance against you either...

I know you are, but what am I?

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

  #38  
Old January 21st 19, 06:18 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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Default CERN plans to build what the U.S. should have 23 years ago

Paul Schlyter wrote in
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 09:10:34 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha wrote:
Paul Schlyter wrote in
:


On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 06:34:33 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
wrote:
Paul Schlyter wrote in
:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 06:55:03 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
wrote:
Paul Schlyter wrote in
:

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:06 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:
The entire northern hemisphere from 35 deg up

Up? Not northwards?

You know, "up" is away from the Earth's surface towards
space. "Up" is not along the Earth's surface towards
the north pole...

But 40 degrees is mathematically up from 35 degees.

By that logic going down in a cave or a mine is also going
up because 200 meters below ground is mathematically up
from 100 meters below ground...

Are you competing for "stupidest person in the group"? Cuz I
don't think you really have a chance against Skippy and
Pinhead, but hey, it's good to have a dream!

I wouldn't have chance against you either...

I know you are, but what am I?


You are someone who believes north is up...

I know you are, but what am I?

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

  #39  
Old January 21st 19, 06:22 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Paul Schlyter[_3_]
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Default CERN plans to build what the U.S. should have 23 years ago

On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 09:10:34 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
wrote:
Paul Schlyter wrote in
:


On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 06:34:33 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
wrote:
Paul Schlyter wrote in
:


On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 06:55:03 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
wrote:
Paul Schlyter wrote in
:

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:06 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:
The entire northern hemisphere from 35 deg up

Up? Not northwards?

You know, "up" is away from the Earth's surface towards
space. "Up" is not along the Earth's surface towards the
north pole...

But 40 degrees is mathematically up from 35 degees.

By that logic going down in a cave or a mine is also going up
because 200 meters below ground is mathematically up from 100
meters below ground...

Are you competing for "stupidest person in the group"? Cuz I
don't think you really have a chance against Skippy and
Pinhead, but hey, it's good to have a dream!


I wouldn't have chance against you either...

I know you are, but what am I?


You are someone who believes north is up...
  #40  
Old January 21st 19, 07:03 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default CERN plans to build what the U.S. should have 23 years ago

Astronomers write in a language that is unknown to those who lack the intuitions which come with experience and unfortunately almost a lost language due to the presence of mathematicians pretending to be astronomers. There are lots of examples, some more beautiful than the next, however, on the occasion of a lunar eclipse , one of the greatest examples of astronomical reasoning is Plutarch -

"For if whatsoever space, and whatever thing exists away from the center of Earth, is the ‘above,’ then no part of Earth is ‘below,’ but Earth herself and the things upon Earth; and, in a word, everybody standing around or investing the center, become the ‘above;’ whilst ‘below’ is one sole thing, that incorporeal point, which has the duty of counterbalancing the whole constitution of the world; if, indeed, the ‘below’ is by its nature opposed to the ‘above.’ And this is not the only absurdity in the argument, but it also does away with the cause through which all ponderous bodies gravitate in this direction, and tend downwards: for there is no mark below towards which they move: for the incorporeal point is not likely (nor do they pretend it is) to exert so much force as to draw down all objects to itself, and keep them together around itself. But yet, it is proved unreasonable, and repugnant to facts, to suppose the ‘above’ of the world to be a whole, but the ‘below’ an incorporeal and indefinite limit: whereas that course is consistent with reason, to say, as we do, that the space is large and possessed of width, and is defined by the ‘above’ and the ‘below’ of locality." Plutarch

In a world dominated by celestial sphere enthusiasts who can't reference anything to the Sun or inner solar system, the value of this information is lost ,at least so far.

 




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