Slightly OT Moon landings.

I'm sure on this conspiracy theory laden group, you are familiar with the
'men never walked on the moon' crowd. Surely, with the lowering of the orbit
of Smart over the next few weeks, before it hits something, it might have
enough resolution to clear up the matter once and for all, though I'm sure
the conspiracy fans would claim those pictures were doctored as well.

:-)

Brian

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lol, why bother? Unless you have another reason, a few more pictures of
man-made stuff sitting on the moon isn't going to ...

Now taking them there and letting them walk around and look at the stuff
on vacation that might help. Then again maybe not, they would probably
just think ...

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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:20:03 +0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

I'm sure on this conspiracy theory laden group, you are familiar with
the 'men never walked on the moon' crowd. Surely, with the lowering of
the orbit of Smart over the next few weeks, before it hits something, it
might have enough resolution to clear up the matter once and for all,
though I'm sure the conspiracy fans would claim those pictures were
doctored as well.

I'm sure on this conspiracy theory laden group, you are familiar with the
'men never walked on the moon' crowd. Surely, with the lowering of the
orbit
of Smart over the next few weeks, before it hits something, it might have
enough resolution to clear up the matter once and for all, though I'm sure
the conspiracy fans would claim those pictures were doctored as well.

That little matter is specifically on LRO's plate. The orbiter is tasked,
among other more important duties, to photograph a number of the old landing
sites with enough resolution to hopefully (but doubtfully) shut 'em up for
good. We'll just have to wait a few more years.

LRO, a NASA spacecraft, is obviously being operated by those in on the
"conspiracy", so that won't help with the die-hards.

For them, all evidence that refutes their claims is part of the
"conspiracy".

KMM

Vincent D. DeSimone wrote:
I'm sure on this conspiracy theory laden group, you are familiar with the
'men never walked on the moon' crowd. Surely, with the lowering of the
orbit
of Smart over the next few weeks, before it hits something, it might have
enough resolution to clear up the matter once and for all, though I'm sure
the conspiracy fans would claim those pictures were doctored as well.

That little matter is specifically on LRO's plate. The orbiter is tasked,
among other more important duties, to photograph a number of the old landing
sites with enough resolution to hopefully (but doubtfully) shut 'em up for
good. We'll just have to wait a few more years.

LRO, a NASA spacecraft, is obviously being operated by those in on the
"conspiracy", so that won't help with the die-hards.

Exactly. NASA is telling the truth any time it agrees with them and
lying any time they disagree.

For them, all evidence that refutes their claims is part of the
"conspiracy".

Bingo. Anyone dumb enough to believe that we never landed on the Moon
is not going to be convinced by mere evidence.

Mark

Of course, you're both right. But for those of us true believers (i.e.
sane), the photos should be fantastic:

The rovers will show as a 6x4 pixel image and the LM descent stage should be
about 15x15 large in an image that is about 6 football fields wide in each
direction. Even the individual ALSEP experiments should be a pixel or two
large and the ground that was plowed up by footprints should show up
differently from the pristine portions with the right lighting. The rover
wheel tracks should be picked up easily so we should be able to follow the
paths of each EVA.

But for me, the one thing that has me thrilled will be the fact that we will
finally know the _exact_ path that Shepard and Mitchell took on their trek
up the flank of the hill to Cone Crater during Apollo 14's EVA 2! The MET's
tracks should be visible and they were soooo close...

i OFTEN WONDER HOW THE DOUBTERS EXPLAIN.

the ROCKS THAT ARE HERE
the CORNER CUBES USED TO BOUNCE LASERS
the INDEPENDENT RECEPTION OF SOME OF THE SIGNALS FROM INSTRUMENTS LEFT
THERE.

:-)

Brian

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"Vincent D. DeSimone" wrote in message
. ..
LRO, a NASA spacecraft, is obviously being operated by those in on the
"conspiracy", so that won't help with the die-hards.

Exactly. NASA is telling the truth any time it agrees with them and
lying any time they disagree.

For them, all evidence that refutes their claims is part of the
"conspiracy".

Bingo. Anyone dumb enough to believe that we never landed on the Moon
is not going to be convinced by mere evidence.

Mark

Of course, you're both right. But for those of us true believers (i.e.
sane), the photos should be fantastic:

The rovers will show as a 6x4 pixel image and the LM descent stage should
be
about 15x15 large in an image that is about 6 football fields wide in each
direction. Even the individual ALSEP experiments should be a pixel or two
large and the ground that was plowed up by footprints should show up
differently from the pristine portions with the right lighting. The rover
wheel tracks should be picked up easily so we should be able to follow the
paths of each EVA.

But for me, the one thing that has me thrilled will be the fact that we
will
finally know the _exact_ path that Shepard and Mitchell took on their trek
up the flank of the hill to Cone Crater during Apollo 14's EVA 2! The
MET's
tracks should be visible and they were soooo close...

Grr, dam the sticky caps lock key!

Brian

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"Vincent D. DeSimone" wrote in message
. ..
LRO, a NASA spacecraft, is obviously being operated by those in on the
"conspiracy", so that won't help with the die-hards.

Exactly. NASA is telling the truth any time it agrees with them and
lying any time they disagree.

For them, all evidence that refutes their claims is part of the
"conspiracy".

Bingo. Anyone dumb enough to believe that we never landed on the Moon
is not going to be convinced by mere evidence.

Mark

Of course, you're both right. But for those of us true believers (i.e.
sane), the photos should be fantastic:

The rovers will show as a 6x4 pixel image and the LM descent stage should
be
about 15x15 large in an image that is about 6 football fields wide in each
direction. Even the individual ALSEP experiments should be a pixel or two
large and the ground that was plowed up by footprints should show up
differently from the pristine portions with the right lighting. The rover
wheel tracks should be picked up easily so we should be able to follow the
paths of each EVA.

But for me, the one thing that has me thrilled will be the fact that we
will
finally know the _exact_ path that Shepard and Mitchell took on their trek
up the flank of the hill to Cone Crater during Apollo 14's EVA 2! The
MET's
tracks should be visible and they were soooo close...

i OFTEN WONDER HOW THE DOUBTERS EXPLAIN.

the ROCKS THAT ARE HERE
the CORNER CUBES USED TO BOUNCE LASERS
the INDEPENDENT RECEPTION OF SOME OF THE SIGNALS FROM INSTRUMENTS LEFT
THERE.

Are they still signalling?

No. The last instruments were turned off in the mid-80's, I believe. Of
course, the laser reflectors still work.

Brian Gaff wrote:
i OFTEN WONDER HOW THE DOUBTERS EXPLAIN.

the ROCKS THAT ARE HERE
the CORNER CUBES USED TO BOUNCE LASERS
the INDEPENDENT RECEPTION OF SOME OF THE SIGNALS FROM INSTRUMENTS LEFT
THERE.

:-)

Brian

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"The rocks are fake!" crowd really amuse the heck out of me. Because
I've seen some loopy attempts to expplain that as chemically altered
rocks.

Frankly if we could do that and not get to the moon still...something
would be ****ed up in progress...

-A.L.

Brian Gaff wrote:
the ROCKS THAT ARE HERE

Apparently von Braun went to Antarctica to find them. Even though he's
not a geologist and his visit was inevitably high profile... but then
NASA's too dumb to think of sending an unknown geologist to look for
moon rocks there instead.

It's amazing, really: most of the moon-hoaxer claims are so absurd that
anyone with a tiny bit of common sense should be able to see through
them in seconds, yet they still find believers. Though I guess given
how dumb the average person is, a few percent of people must be barely
distinguishable from vegetables.

Mark