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Good-news, bad-news; 10th planet, protomoon or dead Earth
Scott Hedrick wrote:
"Cardman" wrote in message news And so who neighbours Canada? Why, Canada is *everyone's* neighbor! No Canada has two or three neighbors. Two or three because it depends on how the dispute about Hans Island is sorted out. If it is declared to be at least in part canadian then we share a border with Denmark. Anyway, Canada fought for the liberty of Denmark during WW II and the Danes are grateful for that and can be considered to be friendly to us, so Canada does not need to fear anything from Denmark. The other lesser known neighbor of Canada is France with whom we share a few km of maritime border thanks to their St-Pierre et Miquelon islands just south of Newfoundland. France too is grateful for us fighting for their liberty in WW II and in their case also WW I. So France is also friendly to Canada. The third neighbor to Canada is the US. The US also has been attacked and like the Danes and the French, they also asked for Canada to go and fight for them. As we did for the French and the Danes in Europe, we sent troops to fight for our third neighbor but this time in Afghanistan. Unfortunately, this neighbor is not grateful for us fighting for them, they bicker at us for not sending troops also to Iraq and they refuse to give us back our $5 billion in illegal tariffs they imposed on our softwood lumber etc. Nonetheless, I think that this neighbor is also very unlikely to attack Canada militarily. As for other countries which aren't neighbors to Canada, I think it is extremely unlikely that they would launch a military attack on Canada. As soon as the Islamists who bomb TV stations for broadcasting US programs realize that they *really* come from Canada [snip] Yes, that is where the real threat is. Not from neighboring or non- neighboring countries but from organizations such as Al Qaeda. It is quite likely that Al Qaeda will somehow attack Canada. After all we are actively fighting them in Afghanistan. If we weren't fighting them it would be less likely that they would attack us but the overwhelming majority of Canadians still think that it is worth to fight Al Qaeda even if it does increase our risk of being attacked. What wouldn't we do for our friends in the US. Alain Fournier |
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Alain Fournier wrote:
Anyway, Canada fought for the liberty of Denmark during WW II and the Danes are grateful for that and can be considered to be friendly to us, Bah! That's a load of Right Wing Noise Machine claptrap! It was a war for oil! Your leaders lied to you! -- "The only thing that galls me about someone burning the American flag is how unoriginal it is. I mean if you're going to pull the Freedom-of-speech card, don't be a hack, come up with something interesting. Fashion Old Glory into a wisecracking puppet and blister the system with a scathing ventriloquism act, or better yet, drape the flag over your head and desecrate it with a large caliber bullet hole." Dennis Miller |
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 00:15:50 -0400, Alain Fournier
wrote: No Canada has two or three neighbors. Two or three because it depends on how the dispute about Hans Island is sorted out. If it is declared to be at least in part canadian then we share a border with Denmark. Anyway, Canada fought for the liberty of Denmark during WW II and the Danes are grateful for that and can be considered to be friendly to us, so Canada does not need to fear anything from Denmark. It would take quite a mind jump to even think about them trying, but indeed the Danes and Canadians get along well. The other lesser known neighbor of Canada is France with whom we share a few km of maritime border thanks to their St-Pierre et Miquelon islands just south of Newfoundland. France too is grateful for us fighting for their liberty in WW II and in their case also WW I. So France is also friendly to Canada. True. The third neighbor to Canada is the US. The US also has been attacked and like the Danes and the French, they also asked for Canada to go and fight for them. As we did for the French and the Danes in Europe, we sent troops to fight for our third neighbor but this time in Afghanistan. Unfortunately, this neighbor is not grateful for us fighting for them, they bicker at us for not sending troops also to Iraq and they refuse to give us back our $5 billion in illegal tariffs they imposed on our softwood lumber etc. Yes, the US is like that. You do something nice for them, where it takes great effort in having them do something nice for you in return. Like how our PM Blair suffered the greatest Commons defeat within the entire history of the Commons, over his support for War in Iraq. And had he not been an otherwise good leader, then this great blunder would have cost him his job. So he sure as hell cannot support Bush in the invasion of another country, when no one would support him. And it would certainly cost him his job should he try. And so how does Bush reward Blair for his loyalty in a situation that almost got him fired? Blair went to the Whitehouse and asked for Bush to do a few things, including to tackle his country's pollution. Like usual he was ignored. This is one reason why us British are now more distant from the US than at any time in the recent past. We simply now prefer to work more closely with the EU, Russia, and China. Nonetheless, I think that this neighbor is also very unlikely to attack Canada militarily. Under Bush's leadership I would give that about 20% odds. With Bush it all depends on what he can get away with. A unified North America has a nice sound to it. As for other countries which aren't neighbors to Canada, I think it is extremely unlikely that they would launch a military attack on Canada. And this explains why any Canadian funding on Bush's defense shield plan would be a waste of time and money. Simply no one would think about launching missiles on Canada. As soon as the Islamists who bomb TV stations for broadcasting US programs realize that they *really* come from Canada [snip] Yes, that is where the real threat is. Not from neighboring or non- neighboring countries but from organizations such as Al Qaeda. It is quite likely that Al Qaeda will somehow attack Canada. After all we are actively fighting them in Afghanistan. Yes, that is possible. So how many intercontinental missiles does Al Qaeda have? I am quite certainly that this number is zero, when they simply do not fight this way. If you ask yourself just who is Bush planning to get a missile attack from, then the only answer seems to be China. After all had it been the more threatening North Korea, then they would only need a small system to cover that one area. And so it seems quite interesting how Bush is planning for a War against China. Should his defense shield have any use that is. I guess this is just the US fearing that one day in the near future China will be a more powerful country than them. That fact would affect the balance of world power, when now the US cannot boss around smaller countries so easily. As they can instead just fall under Chinese support instead. So in order for the US to enforce their holy golden democracy and freedom on the planet, then it seems like they will have to engage in open warfare. If we weren't fighting them it would be less likely that they would attack us but the overwhelming majority of Canadians still think that it is worth to fight Al Qaeda even if it does increase our risk of being attacked. Just like London has since been bombed, with over 50 people dead. That is the price of our support for Bush. What wouldn't we do for our friends in the US. Then just like in the case of us British you must be wondering about who else you can align with who provides better leadership and suitable thanks for your sacrifices. Unfortunately, for you, there is the geography problem. Your closest neighbour being a rampant uncontrollable beast and all that. Cardman. |
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 10:07:12 GMT, Cardman wrote, in
part: Yes, the US is like that. You do something nice for them, where it takes great effort in having them do something nice for you in return. The U.S. may not be perfect, but it certainly has China - and even today's Russia - beat. And for that matter, France is the neighbor of Canada that drove the Atlantic cod fishery to extinction (as someone noted, the Soviets put it in a precarious state in the first place), and the one that planted a bomb which exploded lethally aboard a Canadian-owned vessel in New Zealand, and which tries to promote a secesssionist movement in Quebec... If Canada has _real_ problems with any of its neighbors, it isn't the U.S.. Now, given the size and importance of the U.S., and the much larger border at which the two countries come into contact, *little* problems with the U.S. may take on more importance than *real* problems with a country with which we do not interact as much, but do not be confused. John Savard http://www.quadibloc.com/index.html _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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John Savard wrote: The U.S. may not be perfect, but it certainly has China - and even today's Russia - beat. And for that matter, France is the neighbor of Canada that drove the Atlantic cod fishery to extinction (as someone noted, the Soviets put it in a precarious state in the first place), You are mixing up France and Spain here, note that France sided with Canada against Spain in that dispute. If Canada has _real_ problems with any of its neighbors, it isn't the U.S.. Now, given the size and importance of the U.S., and the much larger border at which the two countries come into contact, *little* problems with the U.S. may take on more importance than *real* problems with a country with which we do not interact as much, but do not be confused. Little problems? They owe us $5G after loosing the softwood lumber dispute and they refuse to give it back. That is about $150 for every Canadian. And that isn't an isolated event, it is their way of doing business. They sent Maher Arar, a Canadian citizen to Syria, where they knew or should of known that it was likely that he would be tortured. They do not recognize our sovereignty over the Machias Seal Island (on the east coast) they dispute our maritime boundary in the Strait of Juan de Fuca (on the west coast) and dispute our sovereignty over lots of passage ways in the Arctic ocean. Yes we consider them to be a friendly nation. But we do have real problems with them. Alain Fournier |
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Alain Fournier,
Right you are about those damn Canadians that aren't nearly bigoted enough as to suit our taste for the amounts of collateral damage and bloody carnage of the innocent, and that of the Muslim oil which we're stealing at $1/barrel. ~ In spite of the ongoing orchestrated status quo, it seems there's been other life upon Venus http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator) as interactive within the ME-L1/EM-L2 sweet-spot http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm Of things Sirius, proto-moons, Venus, Earthly ETs & somewhat testy topics by; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm China and Brad Guth seem perfectly eye to eye, as well as do the Muslim parts of this world that are not backing down anytime soon. |
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