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Question about light clock - Part II
EL wrote: [EL] Dear John, If you were inside a moving elevator and had two tight-sealed jars, one full of chlorine-gas and one full of vacuum (almost empty of matter), what happens to the trapped gas and the vacuum space, do they move along with the elevator at its speed or do they stay behind? You have a 1 liter helium filled balloon on a .5 meter string attached to the floor of your 3000 liter (internal volume) minivan, windows closed. What angle does it make to the horizontal in a clockwise positive sense as the van acclerates at .1 g? I don't know the answer, but there is one. :-) Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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[Bob Cain wrote]
EL wrote: [EL] Dear John, If you were inside a moving elevator and had two tight-sealed jars, one full of chlorine-gas and one full of vacuum (almost empty of matter), what happens to the trapped gas and the vacuum space, do they move along with the elevator at its speed or do they stay behind? You have a 1 liter helium filled balloon on a .5 meter string attached to the floor of your 3000 liter (internal volume) minivan, windows closed. What angle does it make to the horizontal in a clockwise positive sense as the van acclerates at .1 g? I don't know the answer, but there is one. :-) Bob [EL] Yes Bob, there is a non zero answer, but your context is irrelevant as an argument to what I have been saying. In your case the helium is trapped inside the balloon and is not assumed to be leaking for an ideal case. This means that the trapped gas does not jump the boundary but stays trapped. Just like my chlorine and vacuum, the space is bounded and that space is not left behind the boundary, tunnelling through its material under acceleration. Thus, the point I was making is that vacuum is not universally static but locally trapped by material containment and gravitational reference frames as well. This means that the MMx was testing an absurd assumption that assumed Aether to have a relative velocity to the interferometer that contained it. |
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EL wrote: [Bob Cain wrote] EL wrote: [EL] Dear John, If you were inside a moving elevator and had two tight-sealed jars, one full of chlorine-gas and one full of vacuum (almost empty of matter), what happens to the trapped gas and the vacuum space, do they move along with the elevator at its speed or do they stay behind? You have a 1 liter helium filled balloon on a .5 meter string attached to the floor of your 3000 liter (internal volume) minivan, windows closed. What angle does it make to the horizontal in a clockwise positive sense as the van acclerates at .1 g? I don't know the answer, but there is one. :-) Bob [EL] Yes Bob, there is a non zero answer, but your context is irrelevant as an argument to what I have been saying. I was aiming for irreverant and seem to have missed. Sorry. Carry on, Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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