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Old May 7th 05, 04:31 PM
JohnShap
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Default Russian astrologer cleared to sue Nasa

Maybe Phil Plait can be a witness for the defense...

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topic...9&parent_id=21
Russian astrologer cleared to sue Nasa
Published: Saturday, 7 May, 2005, 12:01 PM Doha Time

MOSCOW: A Russian court ruled that an astrologer could proceed with a
lawsuit against the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (Nasa)
for plans to bombard a comet whose destruction would "disrupt the natural
balance of the universe", Itar-Tass said yesterday.
Star-reader Marina Bai's case was thrown out of a lower court because
Russia has no jurisdiction over Nasa, but the ruling was overturned when her
lawyer, Alexandra Molokhova, was able to show that the agency's office in
the US embassy in Moscow does fall under Russian jurisdiction.
Bai seeks a ruling that would restrict Nasa in its plans to annihilate
a section of the Tempel 1 comet in a project that has been dubbed "Deep
Impact", as well as punitive damages of 8.7bn rubles ($300mn).
"My client believes that the Nasa project infringes upon her spiritual
and life values as well as the natural life of the cosmos and would disrupt
the natural balance of forces in the universe," Molokhova was quoted as
saying.
The lawyer said Tempel 1 had sentimental value to Bai because her
grandparents met when her grandfather pointed the comet out to his future
wife.
In a $279mn project, Nasa in January launched the Deep Impact
spacecraft which will travel to the comet and release an "impactor" - a
370kg self-guided mass - on US Independence Day (July 4) which is expected
to create a crater that could be as large as a football stadium.
Scientists believe that the exposed material from the resulting crater
will yield clues to the formation of the solar system and provide important
information on altering the course of comets or asteroids on a collision
course with earth.
Effects of the collision will be visible from earth with an amateur
telescope, according to the mission's website. - AFP



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Old May 7th 05, 04:48 PM
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JohnShap wrote:
Maybe Phil Plait can be a witness for the defense...

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topic...9&parent_id=21
Russian astrologer cleared to sue Nasa


Amazing. Nice to see that the U.S. no longer has a monopoly on really
stupid lawsuits.

Shawn
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Old May 7th 05, 06:49 PM
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I agree ! The rest of the world has shown that they're as stupid as we are,
perhaps more so. Ever see those "reality" shows from Japan? Makes you wonder
How such a country can lift animation to a true art form and produce some
seriously thoughtful shows. ^_^

---Dave
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Challenges infinity, and is soon gone




"Shawn" sdotcurry@bresnananotherdotnet wrote in message
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JohnShap wrote:
Maybe Phil Plait can be a witness for the defense...


http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topic...9&parent_id=21
Russian astrologer cleared to sue Nasa


Amazing. Nice to see that the U.S. no longer has a monopoly on really stupid
lawsuits.

Shawn



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Old May 7th 05, 07:15 PM
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"JohnShap" wrote in message
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Maybe Phil Plait can be a witness for the defense...


http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topic...9&parent_id=21
Russian astrologer cleared to sue Nasa
Published: Saturday, 7 May, 2005, 12:01 PM Doha Time

MOSCOW: A Russian court ruled that an astrologer could proceed with a
lawsuit against the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration
(Nasa)
for plans to bombard a comet whose destruction would "disrupt the natural
balance of the universe", Itar-Tass said yesterday.
Star-reader Marina Bai's case was thrown out of a lower court because
Russia has no jurisdiction over Nasa, but the ruling was overturned when
her
lawyer, Alexandra Molokhova, was able to show that the agency's office in
the US embassy in Moscow does fall under Russian jurisdiction.



The idea is legitimate. No one country should have the right to claim any
solar body for it's own
purposes. The moon is everyones to study for instance. There are far
reaching implications of this bogus lawsuit.


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Old May 7th 05, 07:38 PM
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On Sat, 07 May 2005 18:15:36 GMT, "Mike" wrote:

The idea is legitimate. No one country should have the right to claim any
solar body for it's own
purposes. The moon is everyones to study for instance. There are far
reaching implications of this bogus lawsuit.


In this case, nobody is claiming anything. This is a simple scientific
experiment, applied against an object without claim- something like
blasting off a section of mountain in Antarctica to study it.

But someday there will be cases with more interesting implications. It
is reasonable to speculate that the future will see asteroid mining. In
that case, ownership claims _will_ be made to objects outside the Earth.

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Old May 7th 05, 08:41 PM
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Sorry but that court is WRONG. The land that the US Embassy sits apon, by
International Law IS OUR LAND and is NOT grovened by what ever county it is
in. I'd like to see them try and sever the count papers to them, being that
most likly they wouldn't get past the guards at the gate.

Besides, I'd lay odds that NASA could delay the court case for at lest
another 25 to 30 years. Also, being NASA is funded by the USA grovement, I'm
sure the White House lawers could take a bit out of that law suit.


"JohnShap" wrote in message
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Maybe Phil Plait can be a witness for the defense...


http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topic...9&parent_id=21
Russian astrologer cleared to sue Nasa
Published: Saturday, 7 May, 2005, 12:01 PM Doha Time

MOSCOW: A Russian court ruled that an astrologer could proceed with a
lawsuit against the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration
(Nasa)
for plans to bombard a comet whose destruction would "disrupt the natural
balance of the universe", Itar-Tass said yesterday.



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Old May 7th 05, 09:34 PM
David G. Nagel
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Starlord wrote:
Sorry but that court is WRONG. The land that the US Embassy sits apon, by
International Law IS OUR LAND and is NOT grovened by what ever county it is
in. I'd like to see them try and sever the count papers to them, being that
most likly they wouldn't get past the guards at the gate.

Besides, I'd lay odds that NASA could delay the court case for at lest
another 25 to 30 years. Also, being NASA is funded by the USA grovement, I'm
sure the White House lawers could take a bit out of that law suit.


Actually the White House lawyers would not have any thing what so ever
to do with the lawsuit. It would be handled either by the Dept. of State
or Dept. of Justice lawyers.

Dave N



"JohnShap" wrote in message
...

Maybe Phil Plait can be a witness for the defense...


http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topic...9&parent_id=21
Russian astrologer cleared to sue Nasa
Published: Saturday, 7 May, 2005, 12:01 PM Doha Time

MOSCOW: A Russian court ruled that an astrologer could proceed with a
lawsuit against the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration
(Nasa)
for plans to bombard a comet whose destruction would "disrupt the natural
balance of the universe", Itar-Tass said yesterday.




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Old May 7th 05, 09:36 PM
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In this case, nobody is claiming anything. This is a simple scientific
experiment, applied against an object without claim- something like
blasting off a section of mountain in Antarctica to study it.

But someday there will be cases with more interesting implications. It
is reasonable to speculate that the future will see asteroid mining. In
that case, ownership claims _will_ be made to objects outside the Earth.



The reality is that no one really cares , other than this astrologer,
whether a country
decides to blast into, land on, poke at, survey or whatever any
extra-terrestrial body. It is generally understood
that science is a shared activity. The results can be gotten by any country
that wants them.

Mars will never be claimed as "American" soil just as the moon never was.


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Old May 7th 05, 10:29 PM
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"My client believes that the Nasa project infringes upon her
spiritual and life values as well as the natural life of
the cosmos and would disrupt the natural balance of forces
in the universe"


ROFLMAO!!! I would like to see the lawyer provide proof that
the natural balance of forces will be disrupted. Hehehe.

The lawyer said Tempel 1 had sentimental value...


Tempel 1 will now be even more memorable after July 4th. :-)

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Old May 7th 05, 10:29 PM
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Shawn wrote:
JohnShap wrote:
Maybe Phil Plait can be a witness for the defense...


http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topic...9&parent_id=21
Russian astrologer cleared to sue Nasa


Amazing. Nice to see that the U.S. no longer has a monopoly on

really
stupid lawsuits.

Shawn


its no longer cost effective to have frivilous lawsuits in america.
even idiots need to outsource just wait till you see what the chinese
has planned over the next few yaers, they have been snaping up all the
used dimwits they can get their hands on.

 




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