A Space & astronomy forum. SpaceBanter.com

Go Back   Home » SpaceBanter.com forum » Astronomy and Astrophysics » Amateur Astronomy
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass to energy.



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old December 14th 06, 06:00 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
[email protected]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 14
Default The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass to energy.



To read more download the document he
http://www.pixelphase.com/sun/sun.pdf
http://www.tikunim.co.il/sun/sun.pdf



Its title is:
The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from
the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass
to energy.

Abstract:
The sun energy source thought to be a nuclear fusion reactor inside
the sun core. The sun is not heated by fusion reaction but by magnetic
fields coming from the galactic center. The nuclear fusion is a by
product of the magnetic fields heating. The changing magnetic fields
from the galactic center induce electric currents inside the sun that
heat the sun. The heat and the high kinetic energy of particles in the
sun core, trigger high energy collisions that create the main
constituents of matter, electron, proton and neutron. The collisions
also fuse or nucleosynthesis heavier elements like deuterium, tritium,
helium and lithium. This leads to the fact that the stars and galaxies
constantly produce mass and energy. The article will explain the
clockworks behinds the galaxies energy production. The galaxy energy
and mass production cancel out the Big Bang theory and leads to a
steady state cosmological model with large amount of new mass created
that expand and accelerate the universe.
  #2  
Old December 14th 06, 07:34 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Ho Ho Ho
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6
Default The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fieldsfrom the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and notmass to energy.



wrote:

To read more download the document he
http://www.pixelphase.com/sun/sun.pdf
http://www.tikunim.co.il/sun/sun.pdf



Its title is:
The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from
the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass
to energy.

Abstract:
The sun energy source thought to be a nuclear fusion reactor inside
the sun core. The sun is not heated by fusion reaction but by magnetic
fields coming from the galactic center. The nuclear fusion is a by
product of the magnetic fields heating. The changing magnetic fields
from the galactic center induce electric currents inside the sun that
heat the sun.


Have you ever measured the galactic core's magnetic field at the
Sun's position, to be generating an energymass transform, ... or
even be heating a weiner for that matter!

The next time you go to MacDonalds dont think of it as you eating
a hamburger, rather it eating (even creating!), you. What else do
the Golden Arches mean?

The one thing your theory does invoke, however, is the thinking
patterns of small children. They see ice and fire on a rocket on
television and assume: "ice makes fire", and the reverse !

Think about it.





  #3  
Old December 14th 06, 07:38 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
[email protected]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 14
Default The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass to energy.

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 06:07:10 GMT, Sam Wormley
wrote:

Thus theory does not contradict the density, pressure and temperature
of the sun. It also does not contradict the observed amount of solar
neutrinos. The neutrinos are created in two separate processes. The
first is the fusion and the second is the transformation of energy to
mass. For instance when high speed electrons and positron collide in
the sun, or in a collider, heavier particles is created accompanied by
a neutrino.

This is also written in the document:


Neutrino emission from the sun

For three decades there was a neutrino paradox related to the sun. The
sun emitted only third of the neutrinos that where expected from the
standard solar model based on the sun fusion. However the paradox was
solved lately by experiments done at SNO neutrino detector. The
neutrinos once believed to be massless like photons but know are known
that the neutrinos have mass. The existence of mass of the neutrino is
based on the fact that when neutrinos pass in space there are
oscillations between the three flavors of the neutrinos. The SNO
neutrino detector confirmed that and settled the long neutrino
paradox. Assuming that the SNO findings are correct and there is no
contamination that influenced the data, there is seemingly a conflict
between the theory presented here and the SNO findings. If the sun is
heated by the galactic center magnetic fields and the fusion is only a
by product and limited in scope, then the neutrino emission supposes
to be much smaller then in the full scale fusion of the standard solar
model. The solution to this conflict is that the nucleosynthesis of
the building blocks of matter electron, proton and neutron emits
neutrinos.
For instance you can see the emission of neutrino in the collision of
electron and positron that creates a quark:
e+e- W+W- q qbar uv

The collision creates quark pair, muon and neutrino.
The emission of neutrinos from the sun is the sum of the neutrinos
from the small scale fusion reaction, and mainly from creation of new
particles and mass.



wrote:

To read more download the document he
http://www.pixelphase.com/sun/sun.pdf
http://www.tikunim.co.il/sun/sun.pdf



Its title is:
The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from
the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass
to energy.

Abstract:
The sun energy source thought to be a nuclear fusion reactor inside
the sun core. The sun is not heated by fusion reaction but by magnetic
fields coming from the galactic center. The nuclear fusion is a by
product of the magnetic fields heating. The changing magnetic fields
from the galactic center induce electric currents inside the sun that
heat the sun. The heat and the high kinetic energy of particles in the
sun core, trigger high energy collisions that create the main
constituents of matter, electron, proton and neutron. The collisions
also fuse or nucleosynthesis heavier elements like deuterium, tritium,
helium and lithium. This leads to the fact that the stars and galaxies
constantly produce mass and energy. The article will explain the
clockworks behinds the galaxies energy production. The galaxy energy
and mass production cancel out the Big Bang theory and leads to a
steady state cosmological model with large amount of new mass created
that expand and accelerate the universe.


Your theory is contradicted by direct evidence for the pp-chain nuclear
reactions going on in the core of the Sun (Marty).

The original gravitational collapse heated the gas... kinetic energy
was great enough for nuclear fusion (pp-chain) to begin and sustain
itself.

See: http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronom...r17/17f02.html

The Sun's primary energy source is the p-p chain whereby helium is
fused from hydrogen in the core of our sun. Density, pressure and
temperature profiles, solar neutrino (anti neutrino) energies and total
radiated energy confirm the standard solar model.

Density, pressure an temperature profiles are measured by analysis
of the Sun's vibration modes, rates, etc.

The [once] Solar Neutrino Problem Has Been Closed
http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/2002/split/586-1.html

PHYSICS NEWS UPDATE
The American Institute of Physics Bulletin of Physics News
Number 617 December 13, 2002 by Phillip F. Schewe, Ben Stein, and James
Riordon

PHYSICS STORIES OF 2002. The top two physics stories for the past 12
months were the total accounting of neutrinos from the sun by the Sudbury
Neutrino Observatory (SNO), thus solving the solar neutrino problem (Update
586; http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/20...t/586-1.html); and the formation
and detection of antihydrogen atoms at CERN (Updates 605 and 611,
www.aip.org/enews/physnews/2002/split/605-1.html and
http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/20...it/611-1.html). Other notable physics
developments for the year include stopping and storing light in a solid
(Update 571), the observation of phase-transition behavior in nuclei (572),
publication of some unsent letters by Niels Bohr to Werner Heisenberg (576),
interferometry with C-70 molecules (579), a dispute over "fusion" in
sonoluminescence (579, 599), most precise tests of special relativity (571,
590), sharper maps of the cosmic microwave background (591), "droplet" of
light (596), claims for element 118 retracted (597), verification of the
notion that the second law of thermodynamics can be violated on small
spacetime intervals (598), high precision measurements of CP violation in B
meson decays and in the g-2 factor of the muon (600), scandal at Lucent
(606), record high laboratory magnetic fields (614), polarization in the
cosmic microwave background detected (606), 2002 Nobel prize for physics
(608), noise can improve balance (612), and longest measured atomic lifetime
(616). All the above Update items can be retrieved from our archive at
www.aip.org/physnews/update.

REACTOR ANTI-NEUTRINO DISAPPEARANCE, measured by a detector in Japan,
supports the idea that neutrinos oscillate from one type to another and that
they possess mass. Nuclear reactors produce several things: heat,
electricity, spent fuel rods, and neutrinos. The neutrinos (or, to be more
exact, electron anti-neutrinos) are a result of fission reactions inside the
reactor core. But some of the electron antineutrinos, once they're underway
and moving through the Earth, manifest one of the weirdest phenomena in all
of physics, namely the ability to exist as a composite of several
sub-species. That is, what we call a neutrino is really several (perhaps
three) neutrinos in one. At any point along its trajectory the generic
neutrino might (if you were to capture it just then) appear as an electron
neutrino, but farther along it might look like a muon neutrino, in which
case it would elude detectors tuned to detect only electron nu's.
The Kamioka Liquid Scintillator Anti-Neutrino Detector (KamLAND) sets out
to sample this odd mode of being. The apparatus, basically a huge reservoir
of optically-active liquid viewed by numerous phototubes, looks for
interactions in which an incoming nu strikes a proton, creating in their
stead a trackable neutron-positron pair. KamLAND resides in an underground
lab beneath Toyama, Japan. It is a sort of telescope peering not at
galaxies in the sky; instead it stares through a block of terrestrial crust
looking for the neutrino warmth cast off by a constellation of 69 reactors
in Japan and Korea.

Taking into account the laws of physics governing the reactions in the
reactor cores, the known power ratings for the reactors, their aggregate
reactor-detector distances, and the duration of the experiment (145 days),
one would expect seeing 86 true events, whereas the actual number was 54.
The researchers conclude that the disappearance of events is due to neutrino
oscillation.

This result is not merely a confirmation of oscillation research carried
out with solar nu's at such detectors as Super Kamiokande in Japan and the
Sudbury Neutrino Observatory (SNO) in Canada (see Update 586,
http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/20...it/586-1.html). For one thing
KamLAND studies anti-neutrinos rather than neutrinos. Furthermore, the
production of neutrinos in a reactor is much closer at hand and better
understood than is the case for the sun. The KamLAND finding also serves to
narrow the theoretical explanation of the neutrino's split personality.
(Eguchi et al., paper submitted to Physical Review Letters, text and
background information at:
http://hep.stanford.edu/neutrino/KamLAND/KamLAND.html)


The "solar neutrino problem" was solve a few years ago:
http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/2002/split/586-1.html
http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/2002/split/608-1.html

Note these papers by John N. Bahcall, Sarbani Basu, M. H. Pinsonneault:
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/astro-ph/9805135
http://pdg.lbl.gov/1998/solarnu_s005313.pdf
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/pubs/be...-3-bahcall.pdf

Also read:
http://www.sns.ias.edu/~jnb/Papers/P...ayhistory.html
http://www.fynu.ucl.ac.be/librairie/...ns/node26.html
http://www.mpi-hd.mpg.de/kirsten/gallex/detector.htm


Neutrino producing reactions adapted [by Lang]
from Bahcall (1989). The termination percentage is a fraction of terminations
of the proton-proton (pp) chain, 4p -- alpha + 2e+ + 2v_e, in which each
reaction occurs. Since in essentially all terminations at least one pp neutrino
is produced and in a few terminations one pp and one pep neutrino are created,
the total of pp and pep terminations exceeds 100%

Name Reaction % Termination Neutrino Energy, q
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
pp p + p -- H² + e+ + v_e 100 q 0.420 MeV
pep p + e- + p -- H² + v_e 0.4 q = 1.442 MeV
hep He³ + p -- He4 + v_e 0.00002 q 18.773 MeV
Be7 Be7 + e- -- Li7 + v_e 15 q = 0.862 MeV 89.7%
q = 0.384 MeV 10.3%
B8 B8 -- Be7 + e+ + v_e 0.02 q 15 MeV


Calculated Solar neutrino fluxes at the Earth's Surface
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
pp 6.0 x 10^10 cm^-2 s^-1
pep 0.014 x 10^10 cm^-2 s^-1
hep 8 x 10^3 cm^-2 s^-1
Be7 0.47 x 10^10 cm^-2 s^-1
B8 5.8 x 10^6 cm^-2 s^-1


Other relevant papers by John N. Bahcall, Sarbani Basu, M. H. Pinsonneault:
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/astro-ph/9805135

http://pdg.lbl.gov/1998/solarnu_s005313.pdf
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/pubs/be...-3-bahcall.pdf

And here is something fun you can do:
http://www.physics.mun.ca/~jjerrett/...proton/pp.html

More fun references:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...o/solarpp.html
http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/ar...+61627,00.html
http://www.eps.org/aps/meet/APR00/ba.../S5690002.html

  #4  
Old December 14th 06, 08:07 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
[email protected]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 14
Default The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass to energy.

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 01:34:42 -0600, Ho Ho Ho
wrote:

You dont need magetic fields for magnetic induction heating. It can be
demonstrated with simple experiment. You can read this in the document
near the integral.




wrote:

To read more download the document he
http://www.pixelphase.com/sun/sun.pdf
http://www.tikunim.co.il/sun/sun.pdf



Its title is:
The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from
the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass
to energy.

Abstract:
The sun energy source thought to be a nuclear fusion reactor inside
the sun core. The sun is not heated by fusion reaction but by magnetic
fields coming from the galactic center. The nuclear fusion is a by
product of the magnetic fields heating. The changing magnetic fields
from the galactic center induce electric currents inside the sun that
heat the sun.


Have you ever measured the galactic core's magnetic field at the
Sun's position, to be generating an energymass transform, ... or
even be heating a weiner for that matter!

The next time you go to MacDonalds dont think of it as you eating
a hamburger, rather it eating (even creating!), you. What else do
the Golden Arches mean?

The one thing your theory does invoke, however, is the thinking
patterns of small children. They see ice and fire on a rocket on
television and assume: "ice makes fire", and the reverse !

Think about it.




  #5  
Old December 14th 06, 08:53 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Stuart Chapman
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 30
Default The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fieldsfrom the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not massto energy.

wrote:

To read more download the document he
http://www.pixelphase.com/sun/sun.pdf
http://www.tikunim.co.il/sun/sun.pdf



Its title is:
The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from
the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass
to energy.

Abstract:
The sun energy source thought to be a nuclear fusion reactor inside
the sun core. The sun is not heated by fusion reaction but by magnetic
fields coming from the galactic center. The nuclear fusion is a by
product of the magnetic fields heating. The changing magnetic fields
from the galactic center induce electric currents inside the sun that
heat the sun. The heat and the high kinetic energy of particles in the
sun core, trigger high energy collisions that create the main
constituents of matter, electron, proton and neutron. The collisions
also fuse or nucleosynthesis heavier elements like deuterium, tritium,
helium and lithium. This leads to the fact that the stars and galaxies
constantly produce mass and energy. The article will explain the
clockworks behinds the galaxies energy production. The galaxy energy
and mass production cancel out the Big Bang theory and leads to a
steady state cosmological model with large amount of new mass created
that expand and accelerate the universe.



What a great theory! Why hadn't I thought of that before?

Stupot
  #6  
Old December 14th 06, 12:59 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Greg Neill
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 163
Default The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass to energy.

wrote in message ...
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 01:34:42 -0600, Ho Ho Ho
wrote:

You dont need magetic fields for magnetic induction heating. It can be
demonstrated with simple experiment. You can read this in the document
near the integral.


Okay, you're right off the deep end and into the
region of "what color is the sky in your world?"

With such a flimsy grasp of physics and technology,
how can you hope to generate your own consistent
and viable theories?


  #7  
Old December 14th 06, 03:17 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris L Peterson
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10,007
Default The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass to energy.

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:53:32 +1100, Stuart Chapman
wrote:

What a great theory! Why hadn't I thought of that before?


Because you were crippled by a properly functioning brain and a good
education?

_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com
  #8  
Old December 14th 06, 04:32 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Eugene Griessel
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 336
Default The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass to energy.

Chris L Peterson wrote:

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:53:32 +1100, Stuart Chapman
wrote:

What a great theory! Why hadn't I thought of that before?


Because you were crippled by a properly functioning brain and a good
education?

Seems he lacks a healthy dose of gullibility as well. A totally
dysfunctional dupe in other words.


Eugene L Griessel

...Every morning is the dawn of a new error...
  #9  
Old December 15th 06, 06:20 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
KLM[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5
Default The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fieldsfrom the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and notmass to energy.



Greg Neill wrote:

wrote in message ...
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 01:34:42 -0600, Ho Ho Ho
wrote:

You dont need magetic fields for magnetic induction heating. It can be
demonstrated with simple experiment. You can read this in the document
near the integral.


Okay, you're right off the deep end and into the
region of "what color is the sky in your world?"

With such a flimsy grasp of physics and technology,
how can you hope to generate your own consistent
and viable theories?


Same as on FOX News! You say it, sort of, so it must exist -
somewhere?




  #10  
Old December 15th 06, 06:21 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
KLM[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5
Default The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fieldsfromthe center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not masstoenergy.



Stuart Chapman wrote:

wrote:

To read more download the document he
http://www.pixelphase.com/sun/sun.pdf
http://www.tikunim.co.il/sun/sun.pdf



Its title is:
The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from
the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass
to energy.

Abstract:
The sun energy source thought to be a nuclear fusion reactor inside
the sun core. The sun is not heated by fusion reaction but by magnetic
fields coming from the galactic center. The nuclear fusion is a by
product of the magnetic fields heating. The changing magnetic fields
from the galactic center induce electric currents inside the sun that
heat the sun. The heat and the high kinetic energy of particles in the
sun core, trigger high energy collisions that create the main
constituents of matter, electron, proton and neutron. The collisions
also fuse or nucleosynthesis heavier elements like deuterium, tritium,
helium and lithium. This leads to the fact that the stars and galaxies
constantly produce mass and energy. The article will explain the
clockworks behinds the galaxies energy production. The galaxy energy
and mass production cancel out the Big Bang theory and leads to a
steady state cosmological model with large amount of new mass created
that expand and accelerate the universe.


What a great theory! Why hadn't I thought of that before?

Stupot


Spoof understood!

 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass to energy. [email protected] SETI 3 January 8th 07 11:42 PM
The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass to energy. [email protected] Misc 2 December 13th 06 01:15 PM
The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass to energy. [email protected] Astronomy Misc 0 December 13th 06 12:37 AM
The sun energy source is not nuclear fusion, but magnetic fields from the center of the Galaxy. The sun converts energy to mass and not mass to energy. [email protected] Solar 0 December 12th 06 10:58 PM
Unified Force-Energy-Mass Theory of CPH Hossein Javadi CCD Imaging 0 January 29th 04 08:24 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 SpaceBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.