Apollo One, the FBI, and Scott Grissom

Jonathan Silverlight wrote:


In other words, he's doing what any politician does and being polite
to a nuisance. This has as much credibility as Bill Kaysing's claims
that the CIA has tried to kill him.


They made Oliver Stone sick when he was trying to film "Nixon" you
know...they put itching powder inside his tinfoil hat, and he came down
with a severe rash.... :-D

Pat

(LaDonna Wyss) wrote:
OK, THAT is one he** of a serious allegation,

It's not an allegation, it's a simple fact. scott openly admitted to
lying and concealing evidence.

and I am not going to allow it to stand. Scott is not "concealing evidence."
There are things that occur during the course of an investigation which, if
revealed at the wrong time in the wrong forum, can and do compromise
the investigation. That is NOT the same thing as concealing evidence.
Let's make certain you have that straight.

Which is why scott lied, both to us, and to people reading his
website, about the existence of a report analyzing the piece of metal
alleged to be the cause of the hypothesized short. (snort)

*That* is concealing evidence.


As for Scott "refusing" to supply the pathologist's credentials: I've
come to know him rather well over the past 18 months. What you
interpret as refusal is most likely Scott's propensity to forget
things.

He's been asked multiple times over the past years. Dodging the
answer once is forgetting something. Failing repeatedly to answer a
repeated question is a very different matter.

Again, perhaps a personal flaw, but not indicative he is
hiding anything.

Lass, scott has openly admitted to concealing evidence. He stands
convicted on his own testimony.

D.
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"Charleston" wrote:

"LaDonna Wyss" wrote:
(Derek Lyons) wrote:
(LaDonna Wyss) wrote:

First, I am not going to post Gus Grissom's autopsy report on the
Internet. I wouldn't even DREAM of asking Betty Grissom's permission
to do such a thing. Second, my medical credentials have nothing to do
with it.

They certainly do when you make medical statement with such certainty.

Correct. Did I just agree with Derek?

Dan, I'm as surprised as you are, but it does happen now and again.


D.
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(LaDonna Wyss) wrote:

I'm NOT his apologist;

Which of course, is why you wrote such a lengthy apology for him.

(And added psychologist to your list of 'qualifications' in the
process.)

D.
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(LaDonna Wyss) wrote:
Really? I'd like to hear YOUR evidence on that assertion. Are you
trying to tell me that a dead short on a DC circuit creates no
problems for systems downstream of that short?

It does for systems downstream of the short. But none of the problems
were in systems downstream of the short. They were in systems
elsewhere on the bus. (A very different matter from 'downstream'.
These terms have specific meaning when it comes to electronics
troubleshooting.) It also does not cause intermittent problems of the
nature seen on that day. Intermittent problems indicate an
intermittent short or (more likely) shorts or grounds, or cabling
problems (whose existence is well documented inside the capsule).

Unlike you and scott, I'm actually trained in electrical and
electronic troubleshooting.

(Be very careful with your answer; I won't have to go very far to prove
you wrong should you choose to argue this point.)

Ah, so now you are adding 'electronics tech' to your already
*impressive* list of qualifications.

D.
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(LaDonna Wyss) wrote:
High school? What have you been reading?

Everything she's proudly pointed to as being written by her about Gus
Grissom.

D.
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On 4 Jun 2004 06:59:14 -0700, (LaDonna Wyss)
wrote:

HOLD EVERYTHING.

....Oh, hold *this*, you ska..no, wait. Don't. We know where your hands
have been.

You just proved you do not know what you are talking
about.

....And *you* do? So far, you've failed to carry the burden of proof on
your end in this, babe.

Gus Grissom's autopsy report is NOT public record!!!!
(Neither is Ed White's nor Roger Chaffee's.) What you have seen is
the one or two pages that have been released; those are SUMMARIES.

....And, pray tell, do you understand what a summary *is*?

The actual report is some 25 pages long, and it is CLASSIFIED.

....Full autopsy details are commonly blocked from casual public record
out of respect for the families. It's not to cover up any
conspiracies, it's to spare the families from reliving how their loved
ones died in gruesome details. If you can't grasp that, you're
obviously just as demented as the Grissoms are.

The only reason I've seen it is because Scott and Betty graciously allowed
me to see it.

....Ah! The War Banner of the Conspiracy Theorist! "Well, I've seen it
in a document you'll never see because it's classified, so you'll have
to trust me on this one!" Tell me, slimbag: are you a member in good
standing with MUFON?

And, what is UP with people putting Scott's name in quotes? Do you
think it is an alias???

....If you'd quit being a fat lazy bitch, living in a trailer, sitting
on the sofa, eating nothing but chips and boxed chocolates and cheap
beer, and watching soaps all day, you'd go out and google all the
posts on this mess you're attempting to perpetuate, and have at least
half a clue why scott is so derided around here. At the same time,
you'll understand the quotes bit, as well as why it's spelled lower
case.

Perhaps you should read Gus' bio so you can verify the man's name!

....Did that *LONG* ago. Somehow, I doubt you ever did.

I also did not make medical conclusions; I simply reiterated what is in the report and the simple facts about
hemorrhagic pulmonary edema. No conclusions; simply research.

....Bull****. You threw it out there as evidence to bolster your
reiteration of scott & Betty's bull**** claims: that Gus, Ed & Roger
were murdered. Go read your own garbage, you ignorant, worthless pile
of troll excrement.

People like you don't deserve to breathe our air...

OM

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"Charleston" wrote:

Some things never change. Saint JerOMe strikes again.

Dan; Stick to the facts and the discussion. Baiting OM only lowers
you to his level.

D.
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On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:55:09 +0100, "Paul Blay"
wrote:

He's intelligent and knowledgable, but unfortunately often to chooses to display
all the charm and politeness of a rabid pit bull while online.

....Only towards those who obviously deserve it ;-)

OM

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poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

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On 4 Jun 2004 06:40:57 -0700, (LaDonna Wyss)
wrote:

OM, has anyone ever given you the definition of "ASS u me?"

....No thanks. It's obvious where your ass has been of late, along with
your lips.

OM

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"No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m
his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr