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Old August 26th 15, 10:52 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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Effectively the basis of the doctrine is the so-called rule 3 which began with an opinion on the matter of the fall of an apple and extended out to planetary dynamics as a blanket approach -

"...after dinner, the weather being warm, we went into the garden, & drank thea under the shade of some appletrees, only he, & myself. amidst other discourse, he told me, he was just in the same situation, as when formerly, the notion of gravitation came into his mind. "why should that apple always descend perpendicularly to the ground," thought he to him self: occasion'd by the fall of an apple, as he sat in a comtemplative mood: "why should it not go sideways, or upwards? but constantly to the earths centre? assuredly, the reason is, that the earth draws it. there must be a drawing power in matter. & the sum of the drawing power in the matter of the earth must be in the earths center, not in any side of the earth. therefore dos this apple fall perpendicularly, or toward the center. if matter thus draws matter; it must be in proportion of its quantity. therefore the apple draws the earth, as well as the earth draws the apple.". That there is a power like that we here call gravity which extends its self thro' the universe & thus by degrees, he began to apply this property of gravitation to the motion of the earth, & of the heavenly bodys: to consider thir distances, their magnitudes, thir periodical revolutions: to find out, that this property, conjointly with a progressive motion impressed on them in the beginning, perfectly solv'd thir circular courses; kept the planets from falling upon one another, or dropping all together into one center. & thus he unfolded the Universe.. this was the birth of those amazing discoverys, whereby he built philosophy on a solid foundation, to the astonishment of all Europe." Stuckley

The apple falling to the ground no longer became an analogy, it became the reason why the planets orbit the Sun insofar as the limitations of the analogy are removed ! -

"Rule III. The qualities of bodies, which admit neither [intensification] nor remission of degrees, and which are found to belong to all bodies within the reach of our experiments, are to be esteemed the universal qualities of all bodies whatsoever." Newton

Considering that electromagnetism was always on the table by virtue that the analogies to attraction and repulsion appear to be a factor in orbital dynamics where analogies at a human level could be brought in to support orbital research, to use calculated positions of the planets within the calendar framework to support the idea that the trajectories of objects at a human level (the apple) could be matched with orbital trajectories of planets thereby leaving out the fields between the Sun and the planets is intellectually suicidal.

The motion of the solar system through space must affect the trajectories of the planets as they spend half their orbits traveling with the Sun in a galactic orbital motion and half the year traveling in the opposite direction. Somehow the import is lost as contemporaries refuse to budge from an agenda they barely understand and especially where Newton subverted astronomical methods to further his overreaching and disruptive notions.

Leave the celebrities to discuss 'black holes' and so on, the real research is here.
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Old August 26th 15, 01:14 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Mike Collins[_4_]
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oriel36 wrote:
Effectively the basis of the doctrine is the so-called rule 3 which began
with an opinion on the matter of the fall of an apple and extended out to
planetary dynamics as a blanket approach -

"...after dinner, the weather being warm, we went into the garden, &
drank thea under the shade of some appletrees, only he, & myself. amidst
other discourse, he told me, he was just in the same situation, as when
formerly, the notion of gravitation came into his mind. "why should that
apple always descend perpendicularly to the ground," thought he to him
self: occasion'd by the fall of an apple, as he sat in a comtemplative
mood: "why should it not go sideways, or upwards? but constantly to the
earths centre? assuredly, the reason is, that the earth draws it. there
must be a drawing power in matter. & the sum of the drawing power in the
matter of the earth must be in the earths center, not in any side of the
earth. therefore dos this apple fall perpendicularly, or toward the
center. if matter thus draws matter; it must be in proportion of its
quantity. therefore the apple draws the earth, as well as the earth draws
the apple.". That there is a power like that we here call gravity which
extends its self thro' the universe & thus by degrees, he began to apply
this property of gravitation to the motion of the earth, & of the
heavenly bodys: to consider thir distances, their magnitudes, thir
periodical revolutions: to find out, that this property, conjointly with
a progressive motion impressed on them in the beginning, perfectly solv'd
thir circular courses; kept the planets from falling upon one another, or
dropping all together into one center. & thus he unfolded the Universe.
this was the birth of those amazing discoverys, whereby he built
philosophy on a solid foundation, to the astonishment of all Europe." Stuckley

The apple falling to the ground no longer became an analogy, it became
the reason why the planets orbit the Sun insofar as the limitations of
the analogy are removed ! -

"Rule III. The qualities of bodies, which admit neither [intensification]
nor remission of degrees, and which are found to belong to all bodies
within the reach of our experiments, are to be esteemed the universal
qualities of all bodies whatsoever." Newton

Considering that electromagnetism was always on the table by virtue that
the analogies to attraction and repulsion appear to be a factor in
orbital dynamics where analogies at a human level could be brought in to
support orbital research, to use calculated positions of the planets
within the calendar framework to support the idea that the trajectories
of objects at a human level (the apple) could be matched with orbital
trajectories of planets thereby leaving out the fields between the Sun
and the planets is intellectually suicidal.

The motion of the solar system through space must affect the
trajectories of the planets as they spend half their orbits traveling
with the Sun in a galactic orbital motion and half the year traveling in
the opposite direction. Somehow the import is lost as contemporaries
refuse to budge from an agenda they barely understand and especially
where Newton subverted astronomical methods to further his overreaching
and disruptive notions.

Leave the celebrities to discuss 'black holes' and so on, the real research is here.


So if we who don't follow your infantile theories are worse than sadistic
killers how many of us are you willing to kill to keep us from our
scientific notions?
One? One million? Billions?
Because you would have to exterminate all the human race except yourself
before the whole human race follows your lunatic ideas.
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Old August 26th 15, 02:34 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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Empiricism emerged due to the inability to resolve issues surrounding the appearance of the heliocentric system where the Earth's motions accounted for observable phenomena - cause and effect at the most immediate level whether it was the daily appearance of the Sun followed by the stars coming into view or the annual declination of the Sun from local horizon to local horizon.

Presently, despite the immeasurable advances in access to information via computers in tandem with the internet, the fact that humans actually have traveled into space and that the recorded history of timekeeping and astronomy, the dominant view is that there are 366 1/4 rotations inside a single orbital circuit. How is this possible !!!!, what type of person could imagine such an awful mess based on the notion that the Earth is into its next full rotation after 23 hours 56 minutes 04 seconds.

The empiricists can and have done so for almost two decades along with the magnification guys who tag along with the theorists - both are flip sides of the same thuggish behavior that has decimated Western science and turned it into a celebrity cult based on chanting mathematical voodoo.

Western astronomy is far older than a few hundred years of cult ideologies that swamped the discipline and until cause and effect returns at the most familiar level we experience the motions of the Earth daily and the annual motion, only then can this great discipline be taken out of the hands of the sour and the dour.



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Old August 28th 15, 10:38 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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The empiricists exercise a lot of wishful thinking -

"Newton's law of universal gravitation states that any two bodies in the universe attract each other with a force that is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them" Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton...al_gravitation

The so-called 'universal law of gravitation' refers to the attempted joining together of motions at a human scale and planetary dynamics at a celestial scale coming under the term 'scientific method' biased towards experiments,predictions and all the other empirical jargon for an overreaching agenda -

"Rule III. The qualities of bodies, which admit neither [intensification] nor remission of degrees, and which are found to belong to all bodies within the reach of our experiments, are to be esteemed the universal qualities of all bodies whatsoever." Newton

The followers of Newton doctored his view to include Kepler's view on orbital periods and distance from the Sun and viola ! - it becomes the 'universal law of gravitation' despite the fact that it was presented as a distinct attempt to mix experimental hypotheses with astronomical ones.

Of course it is destructive fraud but who has the courage and intelligence to spot it for what it is ?.

 




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