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MOON CONSPIRACY & HOAX: CHARLIE DUKE - Family Abuser, NEIL ARMSTRONG - Reclusive, GENE CERNAN - Puppet, EDGAR MITCHELL - Hell Guy, BUZZ ALDRIN - Abandons family, ALAN BEAN - Jelly Beans
MOON CONSPIRACY & HOAX: CHARLIE DUKE - Family Abuser, NEIL
ARMSTRONG - Reclusive, GENE CERNAN - Puppet, EDGAR MITCHELL - Hell Guy, BUZZ ALDRIN - Abandons family, ALAN BEAN - Jelly Beans http://groups-beta.google.com/group/FOOLED AUGUST 22, 2005 =B7 Editions: Edition Preference IDEAS -- BOOKS After The Moon -- What? MOONDUST In Search of the Men Who Fell to Earth By Andrew Smith Fourth Estate; 372pp; $24.95 ..=2E......... Moondust: In Search of the Men Who Fell to Earth The Good A spellbinding tale of what has befallen the Apollo astronauts since they walked the moon. The Bad Smith may exaggerate the difficulties that the men had in readjusting to life on Earth. The Bottom Line Fascinating for its historical detail, engaging writing, and wistful meditation on space travel. ..=2E.......... Such is life for the nine surviving moonwalkers from NASA's $24 billion, 1963-'72 Apollo program. Men who once ruled the heavens -- and who, upon their return, were granted rock-star-like status -- now inhabit a perplexing galaxy. One day they're ignored, the next heckled by conspiracy theorists or pursued by nostalgia-addicted fans. In the spellbinding Moondust: In Search of the Men Who Fell to Earth, Andrew Smith investigates just what has befallen the astronauts since their glory days. ....... [CHARLIE DUKE - Family Abuser] Apollo 16's Charlie Duke, who in 1972 became the 10th of only 12 humans to stride the lunar surface, illustrates the spacemen's predicament. One minute, says Smith, Duke was up there looking down at Earth, which seemed "like a jewel, so colorful and bright that you felt you could reach up and grab it." Then he was back here, sensing "that his life could only be one long, slow anticlimax." Numerous business offers came his way, allowing him to set up a San Antonio beer distributorship, which in time produced wealth. But that didn't make him happy, and he abused both his family and the bottle before turning to Jesus. [NEIL ARMSTRONG - Reclusive] Neil Armstrong, the first man on the moon, became a professor and corporate board member but also a near-recluse. ... [GENE CERNAN - Puppet] Gene Cernan, captain of Apollo 17 and the last to visit the moon, became a "professional Moontalker," making a living from speeches and by promoting Omega watches. [EDGAR MITCHELL - Hell Guy] Edgar Mitchell, who experienced a religious epiphany during his Apollo 14 flight, founded a "consciousness studies" organization, the Institute of Noetic Sciences. Life crises were common, many featuring alcohol and divorce. (One wonders if the author doesn't overemphasize them. Were the astronauts more troubled than any other group of middle-aged men?) ... [BUZZ ALDRIN - Abandons family] Aldrin, for example, "came back and blew like a supernova." After undertaking a disconcerting public-relations tour of the globe, he abandoned his wife and family for another woman, then suffered an alcohol-fueled breakdown before entering psychiatric treatment. Aldrin comes across as one of the more engaging of the men. Like Apollo 16 Commander John Young, Aldrin's life now is devoted to proselytizing for further space travel. Among the projects he favors is a "cycler" that would travel perpetually between the Earth and Mars, exploiting gravity for fuel. ..=2E........... [ALAN BEAN - Jelly Beans] Apollo 12 veteran Alan Bean says he was a different person when he returned, having realized that "we have never seen anything as beautiful as what we see when we walk out the front door." Would anyone suggest that such a realization wasn't worth $24 billion? |
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On 23 Aug 2005 13:35:38 -0700, "
wrote: MOON CONSPIRACY & HOAX: CHARLIE DUKE - Family Abuser, NEIL ARMSTRONG - Reclusive, GENE CERNAN - Puppet, EDGAR MITCHELL - Hell Guy, BUZZ ALDRIN - Abandons family, ALAN BEAN - Jelly Beans [snip] Sounds like a waste of paper to me. Does it have a foreword by Bart Sibrel? |
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Yawn. More "we never went" delusions. Take your meds, calm down, and wait for the guys in the white coats and carrying a butterfly net to come for you. A padded cell awaits and additional meds may be required. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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My dear warm and fuzzy incest cloned borg Matt Wiser,
This is what I'd just shared with MOS incest cloned borgs of our predominantly Jewish mainstream status quo, of their MI6/NSA~NASA spooks and dog-wagging fools upon fools that are after as much collateral damage and carnage of the innocent as they can muster. Keeping folks (us minions as being the apparent scum of the Earth) as much at war as possible over whatever seems paramount in order for the underdog religion of this Earth to hold onto more than it's share of the pie. - Jeff Findley, As usual, I see that you and/or any of your collective of incest cloned borgs can't afford to respond to my previous reply. That's too gosh darn bad because, I seem to have lots more to share and share alike. According to my **** poor math, at having to be roughly 110+km off the deck, whereas if that were circular represents every 1.5 some odd hours and otherwise as for actually their being elliptical of roughly 2 hours as having their CSM passing directly over the supposed landing site(s), often having a 10X telephoto opportunity of recording such upon high resolution B&W as well as regular color emulsion film, whereas achieving the 8192 x 8192 resolution per frame isn't exactly such bad news photo-op situation when you further take into consideration the 256 or better bits worth of image information per given pixel equivalence of what that film and lens were entirely capable of having recorded, especially within the central portions of any given frame. I'm essentially using the very same archives as I'd started out with more than 6 years ago, yet those worshiping the ground and of the plies of their own incest crapolla upon it that's 100% MI6/NSA~NASA/Apollo seem to exclude any such reference to or of any other usage from such official images. Compared to the otherwise dark and nasty terrain that's somewhat of a reddish/golden brown worth of iron, titanium as darkened with plain old nasty carbon as having been deposited all about a relatively dark amount of raw basalt that's responsible for the average 11~12% albedo, isn't it just a wee bit odd that our reasonably large and quite shiny white and/or of bright/polished aluminum worth of our LM that's providing perhaps an albedo of better than 0.95 never once became recorded as any cluster of bright pixels, nor even as one such photographic grain, when in fact there actually should have been an overload cluster worth of blooming/saturated grains and/or as scanned into pixels as having been terribly over exposed. Instead we see only upon what looks as fairly recent impact craters, showing us a somewhat dark hole and surrounding substance (of at least several dozens if not greater than hundreds of meters in diameter) of having exposed whatever got uncovered that's of less than 0.05 worth of albedo, and I do believe that's getting things to less than half of the average albedo, or nearly coal black. In places the Hadley rille is supposedly worth 1500 meters across, with some of the narrow portions being near 1 km and otherwise worth 1.3 km near the Apollo-15 landing/impact site. This gives us village idiots a rough observationology perspective as to interpreting upon those nearby recent looking impact like zones being of representing several hundred meters worth, though as sharing nothing worthy of any brighter illumination from the likes of any artificial items within the center of those zones, that plus no apparent sign whatsoever of having any down-range displacements (dusting off) of the lunar surface for hundreds if not several kilometers, and I believe these images were rather fresh, as in not more than a few hours after the supposed touchdowns, with obviously having multiple opportunities of repeating the look-see upon each pass. It's as though the orbiting portions of photographing the moon was robotic, thus unable to interactively deal appropriately with each of the 24+ passes over the landing site. Oddly the MI5/NSA~MI6/NASA PR infomercial spooks are still not using any of their absolutely terrific telephoto boosted resolution frames from their very own official archives, and their SMART-1 version is offering us absolutely pathetic resolution. Why is that? http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/ or take a brief consideration upon this somewhat perfectly natural looking item? http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS15-84-11236 Here's some nifty telephoto resolution on B&W film from just the AS15 group. Though offering us way more than sufficient resolution, although still not providing any sign of those Hadley rille frames as per giving us a look-see at anything potentially Apollo-15 worthy. Apparently whowever was in the CSM dirvers seat must have been using a barf-bag while super-glued to the space-toilet each and every time that sucker passed directly over their langing zone. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS15-95-12970 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS15-95-12964 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS15-95-12973 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS15-98-13332 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS15-98-13351 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS15-98-13300 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS15-92-12498 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS15-92-12497 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS15-92-12496 Going by other sequence images of a given landmark, it seems at least two if not 3+ images of their landing site(s) could have been obtained at 10X telephoto rsolution upon each pass, thus at least 48+ telephoto image/frame opportunities per mission of the before and after landing zone(s). This batch of A-15 color frames has some w/ow spectrum filters, although the AS8, AS11, AS12 and even AS16 color frames offer somewhat more interesting and true to life colors to ponder, as are those from each of the other missions that at least managed to robotically orbit the moon. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...m/magazine/?91 This one depicts a great deal of their typically 55+% lunar albedo as having been derived off all of that non-reactive and non-electrostatic composite of cornmeal and portland cement as such a nifty clumping thin layer of moon-dirt, although you might perfer using 60~65% in this instance with their LM offered such an ideal color and albedo reflective basis. Obviously there are some other items of interest about this image that downright suck, but then essentially all such LM/EVA surface photos suck in more freaking ways than we can shake a flaming stick at. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS15-87-11839 UV secondary/recoil reactive image ? http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS15-99-13410 For some reason this unfortunate Apollo-14 magazine-M includes one of their PhotoShop star removal 'BLUE SCREEN' oops frames AS14-73-10182, yet never once an inclusion of mother Earth or of the much brighter though smaller observed orb of Venus. Obviously the color having been shifted due to secondary/recoil radiation and just via having so much extra near-blue as being generated by all the unfiltered UV doing exactly what it does best. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...m/magazine/?73 These sphere like domes suggest many potential geode pockets, as potential safe habitats on behalf of some future mission that'll need as much protection as they can possibly get, especially by day. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS12-56B-8298 Of course of what was supposedly obtained upon the surface is at risk because, there's absolutely no way of explaining the various color/hue shifts within the same magazine since their EVA/moonsuit deployed and operated photographic equipment inventory didn't include, or could their moonsuit impaired hands have manage any such optical filter changes as for accommodating such options (the only optical filter was of a pre-fit full spectrum band-pass of a polarised element), and otherwise for some reason there's never anything depicted as per any returning module arriving for their ride home because, there obviously never was any such opportunity as to establish such Kodak moments. You'd have to think, just in case things went terribly wrong, that Each mission would have photographed their before and after landing site with their 10X telephoto lens as recorded upon the fine resolution of 8192 x 8192 and 256+ bits/pixel worth of Kodak film, in the same as they or a robotic camera would have obtained a few shots of their moonsuited crew as arriving back from the lunar surface, say just prior to their docking with the CSM. Matter of fact, there's any number of things you'd think would have transpired as having been included as additional Kodak moments because, there certainly wasn't any shortage of film or cameras. These official Apollo photographic archives are simply chuck full of those entirely believable images as having been robotically obtained from orbit, of a cosmic lunar morgue worth of horrific meteorites and of their primary and secondary impact shards as having been covered and/or surrounded by all of the carbon, iron and titanium dust mixed up with all of the remains of broken and dark lunar basalt plus bedrock of mostly basalt as having been Kodak photo-obtained from such a nearby orbit, with the older, much larger and relatively shallow craters suggesting those as having been ice upon ice impacts. While otherwise these archives seem to be following the usual infomercial style of damage-control process by doing their level best at wagging their need-to-know dogs to death, excluding the little somewhat testy matter of frying our first batch of astronauts in order to buy a little more smoke-n-mirror time for our cloak-n-dagger wizards to make something/anything work according to plan. Apparently it's just like our current war(s) as per obtaining global energy domination, whereas unless you died as a direct result of a formal battle, and from an enemy bullet at that, your demise simply doesn't count. ~ Life on Venus, Township w/Bridge and ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator) http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm "In war there are no rules" - Brad Guth |
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Just for saying we haven't walked upon the moon is obviously bad
enough. However, I've got lots more neat stuff to share for those that are not continually focused until death do us part upon their having to defend such pagan institutions of soft-science and conditional-physics that thrives only unlder the ruse/sting of a skewed social/political and too often religious agenda, of intent and actions that are not nearly as rational nor as moral as we'd been lead to believe. Since it's nearly impossible for myself and most others to tell any one spook of a soul from any other within this usenet from hell that continually sucks, all I can offer is that I'm sorry that my Klingon dyslexic encryption code is often too much for their vast talents and expertise to handle, and I'd perhaps advise that they don't even try pushing any portion of this truth-code through any of our super-computers because, my thoughts will likely fry their parallel CPUs. BTW; this topic contribution isn't about proper/improper words or even about whatever math, but since folks are clearly afraid to offer what's otherwise taboo/nondisclosure or need-to-know is why I have to speak my mind and offer the best I can when it comes down to various calculations that are intended to represent the intent of the given task at hand, and not whatever absolutes that yourself and others are solely looking for as a means by which to disqualify whatever I have to offer. If your math and/or words are so much better, all you have to do is provide those numbers and better words, and/or be so kind as to point out where you've obtained such all-knowing words and math or whatever observationology worthy images of other interesting patterns of whatever's either artificial or not about a given planet. As to all of what I perceive as the ongoing butt-cheek flatulence flapping worth of the supposed mainstream intelligence as having been based upon disinformation and/or evidence exclusion goes; all I can say is if you've become that brown-nose deep into being entirely pro-NASA/Apollo by way of their good book, then chances are that your value as an all-around human simply isn't worth all that much within my book, and since I'm usually having to work from the back towards the front, I rather doubt there's going to become any chapter five merger of minds where the two of us will nullify upon anything except to keep firing our lose cannons at will (poor Will simply has to keep taking all the flak from both sides). Face it; no matters what truths there are to behold, you're probably forever stuck within your world and I'm stuck within mine. Though at least within my world of open minds offers somewhat of a free spirit, whereas you're certainly not going anywhere that's not been moderated and/or fully scripted by those encharge of your body and soul (as having been enforced by those nifty AKA Men-in-Black). Basically, of what I'm still saying after six years and counting, as having been based upon the very same science worth of physics arguments and notions that I'd started out with but having less expertise as for communicating such, as well as for our Apollo ruse/sting as having been further certified along by way of those Kodak moments worth of well established photographic physics that do not lie, are still the same reasons that I can say we simply haven't been there nor done that moon thing, but we really should at least get with establishing the LSE-CM/ISS before Russia or China gets there's in place first, and as such it doesn't have to even be all that ISS big of a deal to start off with, just robotically establishing such high-ground and tether potential that'll preclude others from taking advantage of this one and only mutually interactive nullified zone. Secondly, there's been dozens of perfectly good and scientifically valid reasons for doing Venus, and a whole lot cheaper and much faster results worth of such reasons as to be looking as hard as possible at Venus instead of Mars. More than a decade if not two decades ago I'd learned enough about Mars to have realized it was extremely interesting and somewhat doable, though technically representing a lost cause as far as public funding is concerned. Nearly 6 years ago I learned of enough existing hard-science and of the regular laws of physics that proves Venus is that of an entirely new and improving geological situation that so happens to also indicate as having been hosting a good many items of potentially artificial structures, that you'd think worth our taking another look-see. Obviously I was incorrect, whereas apparently identify all of those WMD from supposedly far better resolution images was to become our priortity-1. Thus why otherwise all the flak? Perhaps it had a little something to do with what had been officially published and summarily pushed into our supposed higher levels of education (from preschool on up), and thus having affected the quality and mindset of life as we know it, as to all of the hocus-pocus science and physics about our moon that simply wasn't adding up any more so than the ongoing global energy war that really sucks as being nothing but further butt loads of LLPOF. Here's that "harvard.edu" composite worth of Kodak moments, of yet another one of those gosh darn lunar white-out zones, actually suggesting of the entire damn moon being of 55+% reflective. That mountain of apparently moon-snow in the background is clearly more like 65~75+% reflective as based upon the 80~85% reflective moonsuit, and I'm fairly certain that the color as obtained within this image is sufficiently corrected as per those artificial items of Apollo being within frame. http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/ima...s/Lunarama.jpg Of course there's absolutely no sign whatsoever of any stinking LRV tracks, and as always the pitch black sky that was supposedly over an extremely dark and nasty (nearly coal like) lunar terrain as having been observed and nicely photographed from orbit as it should have been covered in the likes of carbon, titanium and iron dust, yet offering no dim sign of whatever's worthy of other nearby planets (such as good old 75+% reflective Venus), or of the extremely intense Sirius star system (as to the unfiltered Kodak eye not human eye) that should have recorded quite nicely through any polarised filtered lens that should have actually been making the lunar surface appear even darker, by nearly 50% less than the 12% albedo, and that's not to even mention upon the lack of any color/spectrum skew and of secondary/recoil photons that's entirely missing. Moonpans offers MOS: Dear Mike Constantine (AKA moonpans), I see that you've finally gotten around to PhotoShop cranking up the otherwise subdued (xenon illuminated) blue of the American flag, but lo and behold, it seem that you still have that nearly entirely 55+% albedo moonscape that's quite frankly somewhat impossible, and still nothing whatsoever of the horrifically bright Sirius star system, or that of any nearby orb of extreme intensely of a 75+% reflective Venus, that which must have been rather photographic annoying as hell on at least two of the Apollo missions. http://moonpans.com/a11neilmesa.htm I especially enjoy this next official looking page of those autographed photos that are each depicting as nearly of lunar white-out zones as having damn few if any meteorite remains nor of secondary impact shards, then absolutely sharing zilch, nada as in zero worth of secondary/recoil photons of anything the least bit UV infused as near-blue, much less as having offered any hard-X-ray dosage as per otherwise having been since established as a certified hard-scientific matter of fact by terrestrial satellite instruments, as for the solar illuminated portions being quite a nasty situation. http://moonpans.com/signed/ Forget all about the fact that there's still no viable fly-by-rocket lander (US or Russian); In no explainable physics way possible would the dark golden brown (reddish tint of what titanium and iron dust that's got a good amount of carbon blended in) as color and low albedo of the lunar surface have been so extensively altered by way of folks being situated upon the surface, as opposed to orbiting at 100+km off the deck. There are simply too many direct comparisons of true color and of the raw intensity or reflective albedo to work with. If anything, the unfiltered EVA/moonsuit obtained Kodak moments as having been supposedly obtained upon the surface should have recorded substantial amounts of secondary/recoil photons, so much so that within shadows and especially upon the items brought along for the ride should have provided a noticeable degree of a near-blue cast of secondary illumination, plus having obtained an overall green~bluish skew which the film was certainly extremely sensitive to recording of such unless having been extensively spectrum band-pass filtered in order to have reasonably corrected for such. Even the initial raw Kodak moments as obtain from their fully robotic Apollo-8 are certainly giving folks with half a brain a clue as to the color/spectrum shift and surface albedo considerations that existed. Later missions from orbit (manned or robotic applied appropriate filters in order to obtain what's so perfectly natural about the moon color and albedo that simply doesn't shift simply because of being situated upon the surface as armed with only a polarised filter that if anything should have made the lunar surface darker, and certainly not the least bit lighter nor having excluded remains of crisp meteorites along with the various spectrums of natural color to boot. I ask thar we forget all about the stinking moon, even try really hard as to forget all about those cloak and dagger MI5/NSA~MI6/NASA individuals and of such spooks and rusemasters as having "the right stuff" that so many of us minions seem to think are so freaking wonderful. I might also suggest that folks should desmirk their silly faces and if need be botox treat their overly tight butt-cracks the way our resident warlord(GW Bush) did, and not to forget to wipe off their extremely brown noses, then just per having to use the regular laws of physics and of the available hard-science that's been available about Venus for over a decade, similar to what the likes of John Ackerman and F.W. Taylor had to work with, whereas then lo and behold and gosh darn if there's not all sorts of perfectly nifty things about Venus becoming possible, if not easily surmountable and thus doable, and certainly a whole lot more humanly obtainable as well as more survivable than Mars (not that I'm suggesting anyone in their right minds should be planning upon going to either planet). Just reconsider upon my observationology with open thoughts regarding Venus as being exactly what it is, an honest to God subjective interpretation of what's certainly quite humanly hot and nasty but also, of what otherwise looks far more likely as for being artificial than not, thus either as having been constructed by Venusians (possibly prior to Venus getting itself so hot and nasty upon arriving into our solar system) or of ETs as having been involved with their needs of extracting whatever away from Venus. Since it's been more than apparent that our all-knowing wizard like spooks and their friends can't even manage to detect upon any of our fairly robust and brightly reflective Apollo remains as situated upon a nearly coal dark and nasty moon, that which should have been offering an environment as having been covered in a deep cosmic morgue worth of crisp meteorites and impact related shards of dark basalt, all of which surrounded and coated with that nasty electrostatic composite dust of carbon, iron and the likes of titanium up to several meters deep in places, thus obviously these incest cloned borgs and of their MI6/NSA spook friends are not the least bit qualified as to challenge upon my interpretations of whatever's on Venus. Other than my having to deal with MOS from their continued damage-control efforts, why otherwise are mainstream folks that claim as being independent thinking souls that yet remain as so closed minded, so entirely mindset into their being so utterly bigoted upon self destruction/imploding or bust while remaining focused upon taking as much resources and of humanity as they can along for the ride of our lives to hell. I'm sorry to have to say that, as for going to Mars certainly isn't much better off than hell, as well as hardly being any cheaper than hell. ~ Life on Venus, Township w/Bridge and ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator) http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm "In war there are no rules" - Brad Guth |
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Just for my having to suggest that we haven't walked moonsuit butt-naked upon the moon is obviously bad enough. However, in spite of all the incoming flak, it seems that I've got lots more really neat stuff to share for those that are not continually focused until death do us part upon their having to defend such pagan institutions of soft-science and conditional-physics that thrives only under the ruse/sting of a skewed social/political and too often religious agenda, of intent and actions that are not anywhere nearly as rational nor as moral as we'd been lead to believe,yet you in fact do believe every word as long as it supports your mindset, thus borg like intellectual mentality of whatever the collective of your peers has to say is just perfectly fine and dandy by way of your high standards and accountability that quite frankly sucks. Since it's nearly impossible for myself and most others to tell any one spook of a soul from any other within this USENET forum from hell that continually sucks, all that I can offer is that I'm sorry that my Klingon dyslexic encryption code is often too much for any of their vast talents and expertise to handle, and I'd perhaps advise that they don't even try pushing portions of this truth-code through any of our super-computers because, my thoughts will likely fry their parallel CPUs. BTW; this topic contribution isn't about proper/improper words or even about whatever math, but since folks are clearly afraid to offer what's otherwise taboo/nondisclosure or need-to-know is why I have to speak my mind and offer the best I can when it comes down to various calculations that are offered as to represent the intent of the given task at hand, and not whatever absolutes that yourself and others are solely looking for as a means by which to disqualify whatever I have to offer. If your math and/or words are so much better, all you have to do is provide those good numbers and better words, and/or be so kind as to point out where you've obtained such all-knowing words and math or whatever observationology worthy images of other interesting patterns of whatever's either artificial or not about a given planet. As to all of what I've perceived as the ongoing butt-cheek flatulence flapping worth of the supposed mainstream intelligence as having been based upon disinformation and/or evidence exclusion goes; all I can say is if you've become that brown-nose deep into being entirely pro-NASA/Apollo by way of their good book, then chances are that your value as an all-around human simply isn't worth all that much within my book, and since I'm usually having to work from the back towards the front, I rather doubt there's going to become any chapter five merger of minds where the two of us will nullify upon anything except to keep firing our lose cannons at will (poor Will simply has to keep taking all the flak from both sides). Face it; no matters what truths there are to behold, you're probably forever stuck within your world and I'm stuck within mine, as incompatable as matter and antimatter. Though at least within my world of open minds offers somewhat of a free spirit, whereas you're certainly not about to be going anywhere that's not been officially moderated and/or fully scripted by those encharge of your body and soul (as having been enforced by those nifty AKA Men-in-Black). Basically, of what I'm still saying after six years and counting, as having been based upon the very same science worth of physics arguments and notions that I'd started out with but having less expertise as for communicating such, as well as for our Apollo ruse/sting as having been further certified along by way of those Kodak moments worth of well established photographic physics that do not lie, are still the same reasons that I can say we simply haven't been there nor done that moon thing, but we really should at least get with establishing the LSE-CM/ISS before Russia or China gets there's in place first, and as such it doesn't have to even be all that ISS big of a deal to start off with, just robotically establishing such high-ground and tether potential that'll preclude others from taking advantage of this one and only mutually interactive nullified zone. Secondly, there's been dozens of perfectly good and scientifically valid reasons for doing Venus, and a whole lot cheaper and much faster results worth of such reasons as to be looking as hard as possible at Venus instead of Mars. More than a decade if not two decades ago I'd learned enough about Mars to have realized it was extremely interesting and somewhat doable, though technically representing a lost cause as far as public funding is concerned. Nearly 6 years ago I learned of enough existing hard-science and of the regular laws of physics that proves Venus is that of an entirely new and improving geological situation that so happens to also indicate as having been hosting a good many items of potentially artificial structures, that you'd think worth our taking another look-see. Obviously I was incorrect, whereas apparently identify all of those WMD from supposedly far better resolution images was to become our priortity-1. Thus why otherwise all the flak? Perhaps it had a little something to do with what had been officially published and summarily pushed into our supposed higher levels of education (from preschool on up), and thus having affected the quality and mindset of life as we know it, as to all of the hocus-pocus science and physics about our moon that simply wasn't adding up any more so than the ongoing global energy war that really sucks as being nothing but further butt loads of LLPOF. Here's that "harvard.edu" composite worth of Kodak moments, of yet another one of those gosh darn lunar white-out zones, actually suggesting of the entire damn moon being of 55+% reflective. That mountain of apparently moon-snow in the background is clearly more like 65~75+% reflective as based upon the 80~85% reflective moonsuit, and I'm fairly certain that the color as obtained within this image is sufficiently corrected as per those artificial items of Apollo being within frame. http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/ima...s/Lunarama.jpg Of course there's absolutely no sign whatsoever of any stinking LRV tracks, and as always the pitch black sky that was supposedly over an extremely dark and nasty (nearly coal like) lunar terrain as having been observed and nicely photographed from orbit as it should have been covered in the likes of carbon, titanium and iron dust, yet offering no dim sign of whatever's worthy of other nearby planets (such as good old 75+% reflective Venus), or of the extremely intense Sirius star system (as to the unfiltered Kodak eye not human eye) that should have recorded quite nicely through any polarised filtered lens that should have actually been making the lunar surface appear even darker, by nearly 50% less than the 12% albedo, and that's not to even mention upon the lack of any color/spectrum skew and of secondary/recoil photons that's entirely missing. Moonpans offers MOS: Dear Mike Constantine (AKA moonpans), I see that you've finally gotten around to PhotoShop cranking up the otherwise subdued (xenon illuminated) blue of the American flag, but lo and behold, it seem that you still have that nearly entirely 55+% albedo moonscape that's quite frankly somewhat impossible, and still nothing whatsoever of the horrifically bright Sirius star system, or that of any nearby orb of extreme intensely of a 75+% reflective Venus, that which must have been rather photographic annoying as hell on at least two of the Apollo missions. http://moonpans.com/a11neilmesa.htm I especially enjoy this next official looking page of those autographed photos that are each depicting as nearly of lunar white-out zones as having damn few if any meteorite remains nor of secondary impact shards, then absolutely sharing zilch, nada as in zero worth of secondary/recoil photons of anything the least bit UV infused as near-blue, much less as having offered any hard-X-ray dosage as per otherwise having been since established as a certified hard-scientific matter of fact by terrestrial satellite instruments, as for the solar illuminated portions being quite a nasty situation. http://moonpans.com/signed/ Forget all about the fact that there's still no viable fly-by-rocket lander (US or Russian); In no explainable physics way possible would the dark golden brown (reddish tint of what titanium and iron dust that's got a good amount of carbon blended in) as color and low albedo of the lunar surface have been so extensively altered by way of folks being situated upon the surface, as opposed to orbiting at 100+km off the deck. There are simply too many direct comparisons of true color and of the raw intensity or reflective albedo to work with. If anything, the unfiltered EVA/moonsuit obtained Kodak moments as having been supposedly obtained upon the surface should have recorded substantial amounts of secondary/recoil photons, so much so that within shadows and especially upon the items brought along for the ride should have provided a noticeable degree of a near-blue cast of secondary illumination, plus having obtained an overall green~bluish skew which the film was certainly extremely sensitive to recording of such unless having been extensively spectrum band-pass filtered in order to have reasonably corrected for such. Even the initial raw Kodak moments as obtain from their fully robotic Apollo-8 are certainly giving folks with half a brain a clue as to the color/spectrum shift and surface albedo considerations that existed. Later missions from orbit (manned or robotic applied appropriate filters in order to obtain what's so perfectly natural about the moon color and albedo that simply doesn't shift simply because of being situated upon the surface as armed with only a polarised filter that if anything should have made the lunar surface darker, and certainly not the least bit lighter nor having excluded remains of crisp meteorites along with the various spectrums of natural color to boot. I ask thar we forget all about the stinking moon, even try really hard as to forget all about those cloak and dagger MI5/NSA~MI6/NASA individuals and of such spooks and rusemasters as having "the right stuff" that so many of us minions seem to think are so freaking wonderful. I might also suggest that folks should desmirk their silly faces and if need be botox treat their overly tight butt-cracks the way our resident warlord(GW Bush) did, and not to forget to wipe off their extremely brown noses, then just per having to use the regular laws of physics and of the available hard-science that's been available about Venus for over a decade, similar to what the likes of John Ackerman and F=2EW. Taylor had to work with, whereas then lo and behold and gosh darn if there's not all sorts of perfectly nifty things about Venus becoming possible, if not easily surmountable and thus doable, and certainly a whole lot more humanly obtainable as well as more survivable than Mars (not that I'm suggesting anyone in their right minds should be planning upon going to either planet). Just reconsider upon my observationology with open thoughts regarding Venus as being exactly what it is, an honest to God subjective interpretation of what's certainly quite humanly hot and nasty but also, of what otherwise looks far more likely as for being artificial than not, thus either as having been constructed by Venusians (possibly prior to Venus getting itself so hot and nasty upon arriving into our solar system) or of ETs as having been involved with their needs of extracting whatever away from Venus. Since it's been more than apparent that our all-knowing wizard like spooks and their friends can't even manage to detect upon any of our fairly robust and brightly reflective Apollo remains as situated upon a nearly coal dark and nasty moon, that which should have been offering an environment as having been covered in a deep cosmic morgue worth of crisp meteorites and impact related shards of dark basalt, all of which surrounded and coated with that nasty electrostatic composite dust of carbon, iron and the likes of titanium up to several meters deep in places, thus obviously these incest cloned borgs and of their MI6/NSA spook friends are not the least bit qualified as to challenge upon my interpretations of whatever's on Venus. Other than my having to deal with MOS from their continued damage-control efforts, why otherwise are mainstream folks that claim as being independent thinking souls that yet remain as so closed minded, so entirely mindset into their being so utterly bigoted upon self destruction/imploding or bust while remaining focused upon taking as much resources and of humanity as they can along for the ride of our lives to hell. I'm sorry to have to say that, as for going to Mars certainly isn't much better off than hell, as well as hardly being any cheaper than hell. ~ Life on Venus, Township w/Bridge and ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator) http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm "In war there are no rules" - Brad Guth |
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