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Old December 1st 04, 03:35 AM
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On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 01:13:26 GMT, h (Rand
Simberg) wrote:

You are a moron.


Yes.


....Pot. Kettle. Rand.

OM

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Old December 1st 04, 03:57 AM
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:34:53 -0600, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:03:49 GMT, "Jim Oberg"
wrote:

PS Eighteen times a day is an orbital period of 80 minutes. A couple of
hundred miles underground orbit, I'd guess.An hour and 29 minutes
is 16.2 times a day.


...Yeah, but either way, we already know what he's alluding to: viagra
was a secret NASA spinoff :-)

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Old December 1st 04, 05:06 PM
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"Jim Oberg" wrote in message ...
Eighteen times a day? Sixteen? Close enough for geezertalk....
He trusted the rubes wouldn't know the difference.

OK, six years later, where's all these geriatric medical breakthroughs
that Glenn promised his flight would bring? Where are the scientific
insights leading to better health for old folks? Glenn doesn't care. He got
his.

Talk among astronauts is, he did good as a crewman, behaved honorably
and responsibly. Most folks never objected to a 'lifetime achievement'
flight award (that achievement happened to include major water carrying
for Clinton White House coverups, but that was his job). But the pretense
to older Americans that he was flying FOR THEM, to make THEIR lives
better -- that stuck in a lot of craws, including (as you can guess) mine.

Jim O

PS Eighteen times a day is an orbital period of 80 minutes. A couple of
hundred miles underground orbit, I'd guess.An hour and 29 minutes
is 16.2 times a day.




Glenn's flight was OK by me and I'm a conservative type. What bothers
me more than the pretense of research was what the White House and
NASA did with the rekindled interest in human spaceflight. Think back
to the mid-90's: Hubble refit success, Pathfinder, Apollo 11 25th
anniversary, films like Apollo 13 and TV's FETTM etc. What became of
that enthusiasm? Not much. Only now do we have a plan for expanded
exploration and its future is quite uncertain.


Gene DiGennaro
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Old December 1st 04, 07:02 PM
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Jim Oberg ) wrote:

: "Eric Chomko"
: Glenn is a Democrat and you're a Republican. End of story.

: You are a moron. End of story.

Stick to your speaking gigs as you have zero ability for real debate.
Your politics are cliche'. Oops, I used a French word, I must be some damn
French-loving socialist. LOL!

Eric

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Old December 1st 04, 07:04 PM
Eric Chomko
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Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:39:01 GMT, in a place far, far away, "Jim
: Oberg" made the phosphor on my monitor
: glow in such a way as to indicate that:

:
: "Eric Chomko"
: Glenn is a Democrat and you're a Republican. End of story.
:
: You are a moron.

: Yes.

Yes, Rand, you are...

: End of story.

: Would that it were true. Unfortunately, it's a continuing saga.

And that is the beauty of it. But somehow, I think that the concept of the
journey vs. the destination escapes you.

Eric
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Old December 1st 04, 07:07 PM
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In article ,
h (Rand Simberg) wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:16:24 -0600, in a place far, far away, Herb
Schaltegger made the phosphor on
my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

In article ,
h (Rand Simberg) wrote:


Do you have trouble reading? There is no plan yet, scare quotes or
otherwise. But this is the first administration since Kennedy to
articulate an actual *goal* for American space policy, and start to
execute it.


I guess you missed the Nixon, Reagan and Bush I administrations, then.
I'll leave it to you to figure out what those policies and goals were,
and whether/to what extent those goals were implemented.

It has yet to be seen
whether Dubya really cares, either, or if this is mere political
posturing.


Good lord, have you been paying no attention at all to what's going
on?

He threatened to *veto* the appropriations bill if it didn't have his
full funding request for NASA (he didn't veto a single bill in his
first term). He got it.


It's not entirely clear that his threat was serious or that it
motivated the recent restoration of full-funding. That said, "full
funding" is pretty damn miniscule, a point I made which you
conveniently snipped.

NASA is the only domestic discretionary
agency that got a budget increase this year. And if you think that
the only way to show his support for space is by ignoring national
security, then you're nuts.


Again, you snipped the comments that matter - that the war in Iraq has
consumed in excess of 13 times NASA's annual budget; that in
retrospect (and given all the internal administration documentation
that has come to light since, in foresight, too) it was totally
unjustifiable for the purposes and goals which were used to support it
in the first place; and (since you brought it up) the "security" of
the U.S. has not been increased in any way measurable by our actions
in Iraq. Said situation has most probably worsened as we have now
expended most of our international political capital on false
pretenses and in the process have created another generation and a
half of potentially-suicidal idealists whose only image of Americans
is Abu Ghraib.

Better an accurate "one-liner" than three paragraphs of utter
bull****.


Your one-liner was most assuredly NOT accurate, nor was your slightly
more extensive followup. And the fact that you respond to truth with
obscenity speaks volumes.

plonk

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