Our future is now

We have significant space launch assets and capabilities available
now. Here is how I plan to use them to transform life on Earth;

1) terrestrial solar power - Sunlight is an off-world resource that
steams abundantly to Earth today. Developing a means to capture
sunlight cheaply and make it useful to today's energy market is the
challenge. This is the first step. The reward? Dominance in a $4
trillion per year energy market that is growing in real terms 10% and
more per year and is capable of 100 fold increase as costs moderate
and then decline.

http://www.usoal.com
http://www.mokindustries.com

2) reusable space launch - taking existing chemical rocket engines
and today's electronics and materials - fabricate a multi-stage fully
reusable launch system around a common airframe and a common engine
set. This is most easily done by buying the space launch assets of
major aerospace companies that are seeking to improve high margin
businesses. I have detailed designs for a flyback article built
around a modified ET airframe with an aerospike engine powered by 5
RS68 pumpsets - and a TPS on the nose. Fold away wings (think
Tomahawk cruise missile) deploy subsonically. GPS systems help
loitering tow aircraft recover re-entering boosters. A single ET with
an inline upper stage (used later as a deep space kick stage) place 75
tons into LEO. Three ETs put 225 tons into LEO. Seven ETs - put 550
tons into LEO. To justify this investment there are two markets that
will be served;

a) communications satellite constellation - 660 satellites each
massing 10 tons in 30 orbital planes maintain polar orbit around the
Earth. Each satellite acts as a communications router with 6 open
optical 50 THz data links to nearest neighbors. Each satellite has an
uplink/downlink phase array microwave antenna that uses GPS signals to
paint stationary doppler corrected virtual cells across the face of
the Earth. Simple low cost chipsets maintain communication through a
wide range of digital devices including low cost handsets and
broadband computer links. $100 billion per year is earned by the
network that costs less than $60 billion to install. Additional
services include;

i) basic internet - $100 billion
ii) banking and financial services - microbanking - $1,000
billion
iii) international shipping and trading and tracking services -
$1,000 billion
iv) telepresence/telerobotics - $3,000 billiion - service side
+ hardware sales

b) 2.2 GW solar power satellite - a 225 ton power satellite
consisting of thin film concentrator high intensity PV cells, and free
electron lasers - tuned to the bandgap energy of silicon - power large
terrestrial arrays at high efficiency, increasing their output 16x
from pure sunlight alone - permiting each satellite to earn over $10
million per week in energy sales.

c) 4.0 GW solar power satellite - a 500 ton power satellite
consisting of thin film concentrator as above - earns $1 billion per
year in revenue for 30 years while costing less than $700 million to
build and deploy.

3) Modify upper stage (from inline booster) to operate as reusable
injection stage and lander.

a) Lunar operations - a kick stage puts a direct ascent lander on
course to the moon while returning to Earth for vertical descent and
landing near the launch point. The reusable lander places 25 tons on
the moon and returns it to Earth - an 8 to 10 day cycle time - flown
twice per month. The vehicle may also deposit 40 tons one way. It
carries up to 40 people on board. Two flights can place 40 people on
the moon for a year. A small fleet opens the age of interplanetary
tourism and settlement.

b) Mars operations - modifying the kick stage to execute a 2 year
orbit out and back is a simple way to return kick stages to Earth -
and send payloads to Mars quickly. The lander and kick stage tether
together and spin up -as in the Gemini tests with the Agena target
vehicle - to produce artificial gravity. The kick stage has a habitat
built into it - launched 'wet' - to allow living quarters in
transit. Upon approach to mars the crew enters the lander - climbing
the tether from one ship to the other - disconnects the kick stage,
and aerobrakes to a landing on the Mars surface. The 2 year orbit is
such that 6 months after landing, the kick stage passes Mars on its
way back to Earth. The lander then uses its propellant to take off,
and meet the returning kick stage, and spend 6 months returning to
Earth. Upon approach to Earth the lander and kick stage separate,
both aerobrake to a soft landing near the launch center - both are
reusable - cycle time 2 years -


c) Asteroidal operations - using the lander propulsion system to
circularize the orbit in the asteroid belt allows exploration of
several asteroids before returning to Earth by firing the lander
propulsion system again.


4) ICF experimentation - hydrogen flouride laser initiated
deuterium-tritium primaries set off boron-protium secondaries of
arbitrary size.

a) This is first used to create 50 GW space power systems that
use Free Electron Lasers to power terrestrial solar installations
without large power satellite. A 75 ton satellite carrying 150 tons
of pulse units is capable of operating 30 years without resupply.

b) This is next used as a propulsive unit testing a wide range
of capabilities

5) ICF high thrust high performance drive

a) conversion of chemical booster fleet of 5 HLRLVs into 35
interplanetary cruisers capable of sending 500 tons to the moon in a
matter of hours, and 500 tons to Mars in a matter of days, and 500
tons to the Asteroid belt in a matter of days.

i) Lunar Republic
*) First bank of luna
ii) Mars Republic
iii) Asteroidal development
*) asteroid survey
**) asteroid return

b) build custom fleet of 'handy-size' interplanetary shipping
- 35 ships each carrying 20,000 tons of payload operate throughout the
inner solar system to support a variety of interplanetary objectives

i) Lunar dvelopment
ii) Mars development
ii) Earth development - build industrial ring to support Earth



6) Factory satellites - bring tens of billions of tons of raw
material from the asteroid belt safely to Earth orbit each year and
lift teleoperate factory elements to them Each year., Powered by
laser energy beamed to them from GEO, operated telerobotically by
people on Earth, and making things more cheaply than they can be made
on Earth, and in unlimited quantities without harming the environment
- products rain down precisely to where they're needed. Anyone may
work from anywhere and receive pay and buy any product. While Earth
is a primary consumer, the Moon and Mars are large secondary conumers
of space made products at low cost.

a) mining
b) smelting
c) industrial goods
d) consumer durable goods
e) consumer non-durable goods
i) food
ii) paper and wood
f) space homes

7) Laser powered VTOL MEMs based propulsive skin aircraft widely
available - promotes dispersion from major cities and provides
personal ballistic transport anywhere within 42 minutes or less.

8) Fuiller style 'Cloud Nine' floating cities - made on orbit and
deorbited to float. Each 1 km diameter sphere is guided heated and
powered by lasers from space - and carries 50,000 people on board.
66,000 cities eventually provide quality food, clothing, homes, jobs
and lifestyle for the 3.3 billion of the world's poorest people -
allowing them to accumulate rather quickly an asset base for their
future. These people will be among the firstr waves of emmigrants
off-world, joining the wealthy early-adopters among the stars.

9) Space homes - as the cost of space homes decline to less than the
cost of terrestrial homes, more and more people emmigrate from Earth.
Financial planning software along with appropriate payscales and
banking services worldwide, allow most of the 3.3 billion to retire
after 15 years of labor - as fully autonomous industrial robots
displace telerobotic labor over the same period. Many elect to buy
homes for the first time, and most, having become used to life aboard
'cloud nine' residences, elect to own their own space colony. VTOL
ballistic transports gain orbital capabilites in this time period.

10) Improved propulsion - propulsion and power systems for space
colonies drop in price to make a mobile interplanetary colony a
reality. This combined with autonomous robots and stable financial
growth - make this the golden age of interplanetary development. Mars
and the Moon gain their own industrial ring - and massive space colony
'parks' are developed throughout the Asteroid belt and beyond.

11) sun orbiting power satellites - long distance beaming of terawatt
and more laser energy throughout interplanetary space - along with
compact powersats operating within 3 million km of Sol, give fusion
generators a run for their money. And provide the basis for first
generation laser light sail spacecraft for interstellar voyages.
Smaller space colonies are highly automated, and reduced in weight -
with improved life support - to carry families across interstellar
distances - this includes stasis and longevity research success -
along with improved virtual reality and social contextual software.

12) high mass high energy atom smashers - black holes smaler than
atoms but massing more than a mountain range are assmpled by colliding
shaped pieces of iron-56 at 1/3 light speed or more. Slight variation
in collision conditions charge and spin the black holes precisely -
precisely engineering their event horizons. A decade of research has
the potential to create a new class of engineered product - one
capable of warping space and time - and building such things as time
telephones (instantaneous communicatoins) - time machines (faster than
light travel) - gravity drives (high gee acceleration) - zero point
energy taps (unlimited energy) - combined with detailed understanding
and mapping of the supermassive black holes at the center of each
galaxy, people can travel anywhere anywhen along any timeline in the
history of the universe - all in a subjective time - measured in
minutes.

With successes in longevity research, many of the people reading this
in 2008 will still be alive when this all comes to pass in 2108.

Human numbers by that time will still be under 10 billion - but the
vast majority of humans will be in stasis heading toward any of 20,000
stars within 60 light years of Earth in their own space colony laser
light sail starships - and awaken to a transformed world in 2228 -
Each star system will have fewer than 500,000 persons in them - and
when greeted by the automated spacetime portals at each destination -
densities will fall even faster as they spread among 10 trillion stars
in 10 trillion alternate universes (assuming zero point energy and a
host of other highly speculative things)





..

You’ve been injecting more than your fair share of the same stuff as
the other two willie.moo(s), and as expected it’s having a very
similar but negative bipolar reaction like nothing else on Earth. It
seems “our future is now” is perhaps too little, too late.

Mean while, back in the reality heart land of good old America that’s
about to starve itself to death and/or freeze itself solid this next
winter because we simply can’t afford to keep our homes nor much less
the energy to stay warm, or hardly afford to drive down south to
wherever it’s warmer but AGW storm ridden. As such we could badly use
a few unlimited resources of clean and renewable energy, exactly like
yourself and our other resident energy wizard willie.moo(s) have been
summarily butt-cheek flapping and ranting about from the very get-go.

Of course there’s a good half dozen equal or better than Mook ways of
our having more than affordably accomplished that task of affordable
and surplus clean energy as of a good decade ago, of our safely
extracting energy away from the relentless solar influx that’s
eventually going to be the death of us all, as well as from most all
else of what mother nature has to offer, and especially from within
the very hearth of mother Earth that’s situated only a few km below
our two left dumbfounded feet.

But then you folks of such all-knowing wisdom so often tend to refuse
corrections for past wrongs that tend to establish and/or control
future trends, as well as to orchestrate and/or banish all else that
rocks a given mainstream boat, much less can you focus on behalf of
working together on any one viable consideration, so therefore the
ultimate end result is that for the next century and perhaps well
beyond whatever anyone can foresee, we 6.666 billion folks (lower
99.9% as the supposed uneducated scum of humanity) get squat, and
otherwise we get nothing but more of the same old spendy and
insurmountable grief, so that your ‘trickle up’ theory and policy
keeps your STR rich and powerful friends of DARPA well enough funded
and otherwise protected, regardless of their past wrong doings.

If you are merely half as right as you claim, then why the hell on
Earth haven’t you gotten every R&D dollar necessary from our private
Federal Reserve banking cartel, along with other private matching
funds to boot?

Is there a little something dark and scary about William Mook you are
not telling us?

After all, our private Federal Reserve banking cartel didn’t seem to
mind forking out trillions of our hard earned loot on behalf of
whatever our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) wanted to do. To think
thus far, it seems we’re not even getting cheap Iraq oil in exchange
for our horribly misguided blood and guts, as well as every 9/11 we
get to hold our breaths until we all turn blue. Is this your idea of
a new and improved future?
. – Brad Guth


On Apr 27, 11:29 am, Williamknowsbest wrote:
We have significant space launch assets and capabilities available
now. Here is how I plan to use them to transform life on Earth;

1) terrestrial solar power - Sunlight is an off-world resource that
steams abundantly to Earth today. Developing a means to capture
sunlight cheaply and make it useful to today's energy market is the
challenge. This is the first step. The reward? Dominance in a $4
trillion per year energy market that is growing in real terms 10% and
more per year and is capable of 100 fold increase as costs moderate
and then decline.

http://www.usoal.com
http://www.mokindustries.com

2) reusable space launch - taking existing chemical rocket engines
and today's electronics and materials - fabricate a multi-stage fully
reusable launch system around a common airframe and a common engine
set. This is most easily done by buying the space launch assets of
major aerospace companies that are seeking to improve high margin
businesses. I have detailed designs for a flyback article built
around a modified ET airframe with an aerospike engine powered by 5
RS68 pumpsets - and a TPS on the nose. Fold away wings (think
Tomahawk cruise missile) deploy subsonically. GPS systems help
loitering tow aircraft recover re-entering boosters. A single ET with
an inline upper stage (used later as a deep space kick stage) place 75
tons into LEO. Three ETs put 225 tons into LEO. Seven ETs - put 550
tons into LEO. To justify this investment there are two markets that
will be served;

a) communications satellite constellation - 660 satellites each
massing 10 tons in 30 orbital planes maintain polar orbit around the
Earth. Each satellite acts as a communications router with 6 open
optical 50 THz data links to nearest neighbors. Each satellite has an
uplink/downlink phase array microwave antenna that uses GPS signals to
paint stationary doppler corrected virtual cells across the face of
the Earth. Simple low cost chipsets maintain communication through a
wide range of digital devices including low cost handsets and
broadband computer links. $100 billion per year is earned by the
network that costs less than $60 billion to install. Additional
services include;

i) basic internet - $100 billion
ii) banking and financial services - microbanking - $1,000
billion
iii) international shipping and trading and tracking services -
$1,000 billion
iv) telepresence/telerobotics - $3,000 billiion - service side
+ hardware sales

b) 2.2 GW solar power satellite - a 225 ton power satellite
consisting of thin film concentrator high intensity PV cells, and free
electron lasers - tuned to the bandgap energy of silicon - power large
terrestrial arrays at high efficiency, increasing their output 16x
from pure sunlight alone - permiting each satellite to earn over $10
million per week in energy sales.

c) 4.0 GW solar power satellite - a 500 ton power satellite
consisting of thin film concentrator as above - earns $1 billion per
year in revenue for 30 years while costing less than $700 million to
build and deploy.

3) Modify upper stage (from inline booster) to operate as reusable
injection stage and lander.

a) Lunar operations - a kick stage puts a direct ascent lander on
course to the moon while returning to Earth for vertical descent and
landing near the launch point. The reusable lander places 25 tons on
the moon and returns it to Earth - an 8 to 10 day cycle time - flown
twice per month. The vehicle may also deposit 40 tons one way. It
carries up to 40 people on board. Two flights can place 40 people on
the moon for a year. A small fleet opens the age of interplanetary
tourism and settlement.

b) Mars operations - modifying the kick stage to execute a 2 year
orbit out and back is a simple way to return kick stages to Earth -
and send payloads to Mars quickly. The lander and kick stage tether
together and spin up -as in the Gemini tests with the Agena target
vehicle - to produce artificial gravity. The kick stage has a habitat
built into it - launched 'wet' - to allow living quarters in
transit. Upon approach to mars the crew enters the lander - climbing
the tether from one ship to the other - disconnects the kick stage,
and aerobrakes to a landing on the Mars surface. The 2 year orbit is
such that 6 months after landing, the kick stage passes Mars on its
way back to Earth. The lander then uses its propellant to take off,
and meet the returning kick stage, and spend 6 months returning to
Earth. Upon approach to Earth the lander and kick stage separate,
both aerobrake to a soft landing near the launch center - both are
reusable - cycle time 2 years -

c) Asteroidal operations - using the lander propulsion system to
circularize the orbit in the asteroid belt allows exploration of
several asteroids before returning to Earth by firing the lander
propulsion system again.

4) ICF experimentation - hydrogen flouride laser initiated
deuterium-tritium primaries set off boron-protium secondaries of
arbitrary size.

a) This is first used to create 50 GW space power systems that
use Free Electron Lasers to power terrestrial solar installations
without large power satellite. A 75 ton satellite carrying 150 tons
of pulse units is capable of operating 30 years without resupply.

b) This is next used as a propulsive unit testing a wide range
of capabilities

5) ICF high thrust high performance drive

a) conversion of chemical booster fleet of 5 HLRLVs into 35
interplanetary cruisers capable of sending 500 tons to the moon in a
matter of hours, and 500 tons to Mars in a matter of days, and 500
tons to the Asteroid belt in a matter of days.

i) Lunar Republic
*) First bank of luna
ii) Mars Republic
iii) Asteroidal development
*) asteroid survey
**) asteroid return

b) build custom fleet of 'handy-size' interplanetary shipping
- 35 ships each carrying 20,000 tons of payload operate throughout the
inner solar system to support a variety of interplanetary objectives

i) Lunar dvelopment
ii) Mars development
ii) Earth development - build industrial ring to support Earth

6) Factory satellites - bring tens of billions of tons of raw
material from the asteroid belt safely to Earth orbit each year and
lift teleoperate factory elements to them Each year., Powered by
laser energy beamed to them from GEO, operated telerobotically by
people on Earth, and making things more cheaply than they can be made
on Earth, and in unlimited quantities without harming the environment
- products rain down precisely to where they're needed. Anyone may
work from anywhere and receive pay and buy any product. While Earth
is a primary consumer, the Moon and Mars are large secondary conumers
of space made products at low cost.

a) mining
b) smelting
c) industrial goods
d) consumer durable goods
e) consumer non-durable goods
i) food
ii) paper and wood
f) space homes

7) Laser powered VTOL MEMs based propulsive skin aircraft widely
available - promotes dispersion from major cities and provides
personal ballistic transport anywhere within 42 minutes or less.

8) Fuiller style 'Cloud Nine' floating cities - made on orbit and
deorbited to float. Each 1 km diameter sphere is guided heated and
powered by lasers from space - and carries 50,000 people on board.
66,000 cities eventually provide quality food, clothing, homes, jobs
and lifestyle for the 3.3 billion of the world's poorest people -
allowing them to accumulate rather quickly an asset base for their
future. These people will be among the firstr waves of emmigrants
off-world, joining the wealthy early-adopters among the stars.

9) Space homes - as the cost of space homes decline to less than the
cost of terrestrial homes, more and more people emmigrate from Earth.
Financial planning software along with appropriate payscales and
banking services worldwide, allow most of the 3.3 billion to retire
after 15 years of labor - as fully autonomous industrial robots
displace telerobotic labor over the same period. Many elect to buy
homes for the first time, and most, having become used to life aboard
'cloud nine' residences, elect to own their own space colony. VTOL
ballistic transports gain orbital capabilites in this time period.

10) Improved propulsion - propulsion and power systems for space
colonies drop in price to make a mobile interplanetary colony a
reality. This combined with autonomous robots and stable financial
growth - make this the golden age of interplanetary development. Mars
and the Moon gain their own industrial ring - and massive space colony
'parks' are developed throughout the Asteroid belt and beyond.

11) sun orbiting power satellites - long distance beaming of terawatt
and more laser energy throughout interplanetary space - along with
compact powersats operating within 3 million km of Sol, give fusion
generators a run for their money. And provide the basis for first
generation laser light sail spacecraft for interstellar voyages.
Smaller space colonies are highly automated, and reduced in weight -
with improved life support - to carry families across interstellar
distances - this includes stasis and longevity research success -
along with improved virtual reality and social contextual software.

12) high mass high energy atom smashers - black holes smaler than
atoms but massing more than a mountain range are assmpled by colliding
shaped pieces of iron-56 at 1/3 light speed or more. Slight variation
in collision conditions charge and spin the black holes precisely -
precisely engineering their event horizons. A decade of research has
the potential to create a new class of engineered product - one
capable of warping space and time - and building such things as time
telephones (instantaneous communicatoins) - time machines (faster than
light travel) - gravity drives (high gee acceleration) - zero point
energy taps (unlimited energy) - combined with detailed understanding
and mapping of the supermassive black holes at the center of each
galaxy, people can travel anywhere anywhen along any timeline in the
history of the universe - all in a subjective time - measured in
minutes.

With successes in longevity research, many of the people reading this
in 2008 will still be alive when this all comes to pass in 2108.

Human numbers by that time will still be under 10 billion - but the
vast majority of humans will be in stasis heading toward any of 20,000
stars within 60 light years of Earth in their own space colony laser
light sail starships - and awaken to a transformed world in 2228 -
Each star system will have fewer than 500,000 persons in them - and
when greeted by the automated spacetime portals at each destination -
densities will fall even faster as they spread among 10 trillion stars
in 10 trillion alternate universes (assuming zero point energy and a
host of other highly speculative things)

.

I’ve top-posted for the benefit of those astonished few that might
actually care to read and comprehend the Mook manifesto Qur’an/Bible,
as to what another pretend-atheist as yourself has to say.
. – BG

I said elsewhere previously that the density of humans will fall to
zero as our technology gives us mastery over all space and time. This
does not mean that each of us will be alone among the quadrillions of
stars available to us across all of space and all dimensions of time.
(I'm assuming Hugh Everett's PhD thesis was correct) While we WILL
have access to all the space and time mentioned, we will also use this
technology to create a virtual world where each human is in
instantaneous contact with ALL other humans - in any time and place.
That is, when the first interstellar settlers arrive at their chosen
star system in their laser light sail space colony, they will find
upon their arrival, or perhaps shortly after their arrival, the
appearance of a spacetime portal which gives them instantaneous access
not only to all of spacetime and all dimensions of time, (Hugh Everett
again) - but this will also givethem access to all the other portals -
AND - all humans past present and future - (and in all dimensions of
timeas well) Aided by autonomous industrial robots the 20,000 star
systems that form a sphere 120 light years across that comprise human
space - will become in some ways 'heaven on Earth' - and become home
to all humans who ever lived across all dimensions of time - a vast
interstellar city from which all creation is accessible.

At this point, we may have progressed enough as a technical species -
to warrant contact from a superior intelligence - who may give us
pointers on how to avoid the problems of THAT age. Or, perhaps, just
as solving our presen day problems lead us to this state - solving the
inevitable problems this technology brings - will lead us to even more
interesting futures beyond the ability of any of us today to
comprehend. But not beyond the cybernetically enhanced -
interconnected by hyperlink- augmented by time circuits - brains in
our future! lol.

http://www.frc.ri.cmu.edu/~hpm/proje.../TempComp.html

On 27 Apr, 19:29, Williamknowsbest wrote:
We have significant space launch assets and capabilities available
now. *Here is how I plan to use them to transform life on Earth;

*1) terrestrial solar power - Sunlight is an off-world resource that
steams abundantly to Earth today. *Developing a means to capture
sunlight cheaply and make it useful to today's energy market is the
challenge. * This is the first step. *The reward? * Dominance in a $4
trillion per year energy market that is growing in real terms 10% and
more per year and is capable of 100 fold increase as costs moderate
and then decline.

* *http://www.usoal.com
* *http://www.mokindustries.com

I have just one comment on the enginerring. I have looked at the
references. I would have preferred flat morrors on the ground
reflecting up to a tower raher than a parabolic assemblage on the
ground. A minor detail perhaps, but it is minor details that will
affect costings in a big way.

I have a comment on your first reference, and it is this. Hydrogen is
also required to convert heavy crudes into gasolene. The new refinary
near Homs in Syria will handle Venezuelan crude, this as all oilmen
know is a exceptionally heavy tarry crude.

We need to have a plan for the intoduction of the hydrogen economy. We
need a number of intermediate goals. Eventually all our energy will be
pure hydrogen derived from solar power. Hydrogen will exist alongside
oil for quite a period of time. We need to plan for this period, the
use of hydrogen in refining will come at an early point. We will need
oil for lubrication and petrochemicals for a long time.

*2) reusable space launch - taking existing chemical rocket engines
and today's electronics and materials - fabricate a multi-stage fully
reusable launch system around a common airframe and a common engine
set. *This is most easily done by buying the space launch assets of
major aerospace companies that are seeking to improve high margin
businesses. *I have detailed designs for a flyback article built
around a modified ET airframe with an aerospike engine powered by 5
RS68 pumpsets - and a TPS on the nose. *Fold away wings (think
Tomahawk cruise missile) deploy subsonically. *GPS systems help
loitering tow aircraft recover re-entering boosters. *A single ET with
an inline upper stage (used later as a deep space kick stage) place 75
tons into LEO. *Three ETs put 225 tons into LEO. * Seven ETs - put 550
tons into LEO. *To justify this investment there are two markets that
will be served;

How international will your program be. A credible program as far as I
can see must be a blobal one.

* * a) communications satellite constellation - 660 satellites each
massing 10 tons in 30 orbital planes maintain polar orbit around the
Earth. *Each satellite acts as a communications router with 6 open
optical 50 THz data links to nearest neighbors. *Each satellite has an
uplink/downlink phase array microwave antenna that uses GPS signals to
paint stationary doppler corrected virtual cells across the face of
the Earth. *Simple low cost chipsets maintain communication through a
wide range of digital devices including low cost handsets and
broadband computer links. *$100 billion per year is earned by the
network that costs less than $60 billion to install. *Additional
services include;

* * * * *i) basic internet - $100 billion
* * * * ii) banking and financial services - microbanking - $1,000
billion
* * * *iii) international shipping and trading and tracking services -
$1,000 billion
* * * *iv) telepresence/telerobotics - $3,000 billiion - service side
+ hardware sales

I think you will have a job doing this from space. Fiber optics is the
dominany technology. This is pushing up to 800GHz per strand

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,193344,00.html 100GHz with 10
colors. 80 colors will be 800GHz

Any satellite system is going to be pushed to keep up with such speed.
The problem would seem to be not the speed of trunk networks but in
transmission from node to computer.

* * *b) 2.2 GW solar power satellite - a 225 ton power satellite
consisting of thin film concentrator high intensity PV cells, and free
electron lasers - tuned to the bandgap energy of silicon - power large
terrestrial arrays at high efficiency, increasing their output 16x
from pure sunlight alone - permiting each satellite to earn over $10
million per week in energy sales.

* * *c) 4.0 GW solar power satellite - a 500 ton power satellite
consisting of thin film concentrator as above - earns $1 billion per
year in revenue for 30 years while costing less than $700 million to
build and deploy.

2.2 and 4GW seem very small. Feasibility studies. I would be looking
to demonstrate highly sterrable beams. That to me would be the main
point. 4GW is small beer in global energy terms.

In fact 4GW would probably be what you might need to power a Nerva
type engine. At 10km/s 4GW represents 4*10^5N or about 40 tons of
thrust. If you were to concentrate the radiation into 1m square
(perfectly possible using phase locking) you would have the Nerva
engine - 10km/sec using LH as working fluid without any nuclear
reactor.

Feasibly study for this. Power aircraft too using this radiation. I
think 2.2/4 GW is significant and would represent a feasibility study,
but would consitute quite a small fraction of terrestrial capacity.

*3) Modify upper stage (from inline booster) to operate as reusable
injection stage and lander.

* * *a) Lunar operations - a kick stage puts a direct ascent lander on
course to the moon while returning to Earth for vertical descent and
landing near the launch point. *The *reusable lander places 25 tons on
the moon and returns it to Earth - an 8 to 10 day cycle *time - flown
twice per month. * The vehicle may also deposit 40 tons one way. * It
carries up to 40 people on board. *Two flights can place 40 people on
the moon for a year. *A small fleet opens the age of interplanetary
tourism and settlement.

* * *b) Mars operations - modifying the kick stage to execute a 2 year
orbit out and back is a simple way to return kick stages to Earth -
and send payloads to Mars quickly. *The lander and kick stage tether
together and spin up -as in the Gemini tests with the Agena target
vehicle - to produce artificial gravity. *The kick stage has a habitat
built into it - launched 'wet' - to allow living quarters in
transit. * Upon approach to mars the crew enters the lander - climbing
the tether from one ship to the other - disconnects the kick stage,
and aerobrakes to a landing on the Mars surface. *The 2 year orbit is
such that 6 months after landing, the kick stage passes Mars on its
way back to Earth. *The lander then uses its propellant to take off,
and meet the returning kick stage, and spend 6 months returning to
Earth. *Upon approach to Earth the lander and kick stage separate,
both aerobrake to a soft landing near the launch center - both are
reusable - cycle time 2 years -

* * c) Asteroidal operations - using the *lander propulsion system to
circularize the orbit in the asteroid belt allows exploration of
several asteroids before returning to Earth by firing the lander
propulsion system again.

* *4) ICF experimentation - hydrogen flouride laser initiated
deuterium-tritium primaries set off boron-protium secondaries of
arbitrary size.

He3 is the thing to use in space, as I have explained.

* * * *a) This is first used to create 50 GW space power systems that
use Free Electron Lasers to power terrestrial solar installations
without large power satellite. * A 75 ton satellite carrying 150 tons
of pulse units is capable of operating 30 years without resupply.

* * * *b) This is next used as a propulsive unit testing a wide range
of capabilities

* *5) ICF high thrust high performance drive

* * * *a) conversion of chemical booster fleet of 5 HLRLVs into 35
interplanetary cruisers capable of sending 500 tons to the moon in a
matter of hours, and 500 tons to Mars in a matter of days, and 500
tons to the Asteroid belt in a matter of days.

* * * * * i) Lunar Republic
* * * * * * * **) First bank of luna
* * * * *ii) Mars Republic
* * * * iii) Asteroidal development
* * * * * * * *) asteroid survey
* * * * * * ***) asteroid return

* * * * b) build custom fleet of 'handy-size' interplanetary shipping
- 35 ships each carrying 20,000 tons of payload operate throughout the
inner solar system to support a variety of interplanetary objectives

* * * * *i) Lunar dvelopment
* * * * ii) Mars development
* * * *ii) *Earth development - build industrial ring to support Earth

* * 6) Factory satellites - bring tens of billions of tons of raw
material from the asteroid belt safely to Earth orbit each year and
lift teleoperate factory elements to them Each year., *Powered by
laser energy beamed to them from GEO, operated telerobotically by
people on Earth, and making things more cheaply than they can be made
on Earth, and in unlimited quantities without harming the environment
- products rain down precisely to where they're needed. *Anyone may
work from anywhere and receive pay and buy any product. * While Earth
is a primary consumer, the Moon and Mars are large secondary conumers
of space made products at low cost.

* * * a) mining
* * * b) smelting
* * * c) industrial goods
* * * d) consumer durable goods
* * * e) consumer non-durable goods
* * * * * *i) food
* * * * * ii) paper and wood
* * * f) space homes

* *7) Laser powered VTOL MEMs based propulsive skin aircraft widely
available - promotes dispersion from major cities and provides
personal ballistic transport anywhere within 42 minutes or less.

Propulsive skin is an interesting concept. There is research I know on
skin to reduce drag. In point of fact though electric propulsion might
mean that you could get away with conventional propellors.

* 8) Fuiller style 'Cloud Nine' floating cities - made on orbit and
deorbited to float. *Each 1 km diameter sphere is guided heated and
powered by lasers from space - and carries 50,000 people on board.
66,000 cities eventually provide quality food, clothing, homes, jobs
and lifestyle for the 3.3 billion of the world's poorest people -
allowing them to accumulate rather quickly an asset base for their
future. * These people will be among the firstr waves of emmigrants
off-world, joining the wealthy early-adopters among the stars.

* 9) Space homes - as the cost of space homes decline to less than the
cost of terrestrial homes, more and more people emmigrate from Earth.
Financial planning software along with appropriate payscales and
banking services worldwide, allow most of the 3.3 billion to retire
after 15 years of labor - as fully autonomous industrial robots
displace telerobotic labor over the same period. *Many elect to buy
homes for the first time, and most, having become used to life aboard
'cloud nine' residences, elect to own their own space colony. *VTOL
ballistic transports gain orbital capabilites in this time period.

*10) Improved propulsion - propulsion and power systems for space
colonies drop in price to make a mobile interplanetary colony a
reality. *This combined with autonomous robots and stable financial
growth - make this the golden age of interplanetary development. *Mars
and the Moon gain their own industrial ring - and massive space colony
'parks' are developed throughout the Asteroid belt and beyond.

*11) sun orbiting power satellites - long distance beaming of terawatt
and more laser energy throughout interplanetary space - along with
compact powersats operating within 3 million km of Sol, give fusion
generators a run for their money. *And provide the basis for first
generation laser light sail spacecraft for interstellar voyages.
Smaller space colonies are highly automated, and reduced in weight -
with improved life support - to carry families across interstellar
distances - this includes stasis and longevity research success -
along with improved virtual reality and social contextual software.

*12) *high mass high energy atom smashers - black holes smaler than
atoms but massing more than a mountain range are assmpled by colliding
shaped pieces of iron-56 at 1/3 light speed or more. *Slight variation
in collision conditions charge and spin the black holes precisely -
precisely engineering their event horizons. *A decade of research has
the potential to create a new class of engineered product - one
capable of warping space and time - and building such things as time
telephones (instantaneous ...

I think you need to keep the far future vision in mind, yes. but tou
also need to think in terms of pushing present day technology in the
near term, and think of what you can do in terms of feasibility
studies.

I also think that in terms of launcher development, you need to think
internationally, towards Arianespace and Energia.


- Ian Parker

On Apr 28, 4:25 am, Ian Parker wrote:
On 27 Apr, 19:29, Williamknowsbest wrote:

We have significant space launch assets and capabilities available
now. Here is how I plan to use them to transform life on Earth;

1) terrestrial solar power - Sunlight is an off-world resource that
steams abundantly to Earth today. Developing a means to capture
sunlight cheaply and make it useful to today's energy market is the
challenge. This is the first step. The reward? Dominance in a $4
trillion per year energy market that is growing in real terms 10% and
more per year and is capable of 100 fold increase as costs moderate
and then decline.

http://www.usoal.com
http://www.mokindustries.com

I have just one comment on the enginerring. I have looked at the
references. I would have preferred flat morrors on the ground
reflecting up to a tower raher than a parabolic assemblage on the
ground. A minor detail perhaps, but it is minor details that will
affect costings in a big way.

I have a comment on your first reference, and it is this. Hydrogen is
also required to convert heavy crudes into gasolene. The new refinary
near Homs in Syria will handle Venezuelan crude, this as all oilmen
know is a exceptionally heavy tarry crude.

We need to have a plan for the intoduction of the hydrogen economy. We
need a number of intermediate goals. Eventually all our energy will be
pure hydrogen derived from solar power. Hydrogen will exist alongside
oil for quite a period of time. We need to plan for this period, the
use of hydrogen in refining will come at an early point. We will need
oil for lubrication and petrochemicals for a long time.

2) reusable space launch - taking existing chemical rocket engines
and today's electronics and materials - fabricate a multi-stage fully
reusable launch system around a common airframe and a common engine
set. This is most easily done by buying the space launch assets of
major aerospace companies that are seeking to improve high margin
businesses. I have detailed designs for a flyback article built
around a modified ET airframe with an aerospike engine powered by 5
RS68 pumpsets - and a TPS on the nose. Fold away wings (think
Tomahawk cruise missile) deploy subsonically. GPS systems help
loitering tow aircraft recover re-entering boosters. A single ET with
an inline upper stage (used later as a deep space kick stage) place 75
tons into LEO. Three ETs put 225 tons into LEO. Seven ETs - put 550
tons into LEO. To justify this investment there are two markets that
will be served;

How international will your program be. A credible program as far as I
can see must be a blobal one.

a) communications satellite constellation - 660 satellites each
massing 10 tons in 30 orbital planes maintain polar orbit around the
Earth. Each satellite acts as a communications router with 6 open
optical 50 THz data links to nearest neighbors. Each satellite has an
uplink/downlink phase array microwave antenna that uses GPS signals to
paint stationary doppler corrected virtual cells across the face of
the Earth. Simple low cost chipsets maintain communication through a
wide range of digital devices including low cost handsets and
broadband computer links. $100 billion per year is earned by the
network that costs less than $60 billion to install. Additional
services include;

i) basic internet - $100 billion
ii) banking and financial services - microbanking - $1,000
billion
iii) international shipping and trading and tracking services -
$1,000 billion
iv) telepresence/telerobotics - $3,000 billiion - service side
+ hardware sales

I think you will have a job doing this from space. Fiber optics is the
dominany technology. This is pushing up to 800GHz per strand

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,193344,00.html 100GHz with 10
colors. 80 colors will be 800GHz

Any satellite system is going to be pushed to keep up with such speed.
The problem would seem to be not the speed of trunk networks but in
transmission from node to computer.

b) 2.2 GW solar power satellite - a 225 ton power satellite
consisting of thin film concentrator high intensity PV cells, and free
electron lasers - tuned to the bandgap energy of silicon - power large
terrestrial arrays at high efficiency, increasing their output 16x
from pure sunlight alone - permiting each satellite to earn over $10
million per week in energy sales.

c) 4.0 GW solar power satellite - a 500 ton power satellite
consisting of thin film concentrator as above - earns $1 billion per
year in revenue for 30 years while costing less than $700 million to
build and deploy.

2.2 and 4GW seem very small. Feasibility studies. I would be looking
to demonstrate highly sterrable beams. That to me would be the main
point. 4GW is small beer in global energy terms.

In fact 4GW would probably be what you might need to power a Nerva
type engine. At 10km/s 4GW represents 4*10^5N or about 40 tons of
thrust. If you were to concentrate the radiation into 1m square
(perfectly possible using phase locking) you would have the Nerva
engine - 10km/sec using LH as working fluid without any nuclear
reactor.

Feasibly study for this. Power aircraft too using this radiation. I
think 2.2/4 GW is significant and would represent a feasibility study,
but would consitute quite a small fraction of terrestrial capacity.

3) Modify upper stage (from inline booster) to operate as reusable
injection stage and lander.

a) Lunar operations - a kick stage puts a direct ascent lander on
course to the moon while returning to Earth for vertical descent and
landing near the launch point. The reusable lander places 25 tons on
the moon and returns it to Earth - an 8 to 10 day cycle time - flown
twice per month. The vehicle may also deposit 40 tons one way. It
carries up to 40 people on board. Two flights can place 40 people on
the moon for a year. A small fleet opens the age of interplanetary
tourism and settlement.

b) Mars operations - modifying the kick stage to execute a 2 year
orbit out and back is a simple way to return kick stages to Earth -
and send payloads to Mars quickly. The lander and kick stage tether
together and spin up -as in the Gemini tests with the Agena target
vehicle - to produce artificial gravity. The kick stage has a habitat
built into it - launched 'wet' - to allow living quarters in
transit. Upon approach to mars the crew enters the lander - climbing
the tether from one ship to the other - disconnects the kick stage,
and aerobrakes to a landing on the Mars surface. The 2 year orbit is
such that 6 months after landing, the kick stage passes Mars on its
way back to Earth. The lander then uses its propellant to take off,
and meet the returning kick stage, and spend 6 months returning to
Earth. Upon approach to Earth the lander and kick stage separate,
both aerobrake to a soft landing near the launch center - both are
reusable - cycle time 2 years -

c) Asteroidal operations - using the lander propulsion system to
circularize the orbit in the asteroid belt allows exploration of
several asteroids before returning to Earth by firing the lander
propulsion system again.

4) ICF experimentation - hydrogen flouride laser initiated
deuterium-tritium primaries set off boron-protium secondaries of
arbitrary size.

He3 is the thing to use in space, as I have explained.

a) This is first used to create 50 GW space power systems that
use Free Electron Lasers to power terrestrial solar installations
without large power satellite. A 75 ton satellite carrying 150 tons
of pulse units is capable of operating 30 years without resupply.

b) This is next used as a propulsive unit testing a wide range
of capabilities

5) ICF high thrust high performance drive

a) conversion of chemical booster fleet of 5 HLRLVs into 35
interplanetary cruisers capable of sending 500 tons to the moon in a
matter of hours, and 500 tons to Mars in a matter of days, and 500
tons to the Asteroid belt in a matter of days.

i) Lunar Republic
*) First bank of luna
ii) Mars Republic
iii) Asteroidal development
*) asteroid survey
**) asteroid return

b) build custom fleet of 'handy-size' interplanetary shipping
- 35 ships each carrying 20,000 tons of payload operate throughout the
inner solar system to support a variety of interplanetary objectives

i) Lunar dvelopment
ii) Mars development
ii) Earth development - build industrial ring to support Earth

6) Factory satellites - bring tens of billions of tons of raw
material from the asteroid belt safely to Earth orbit each year and
lift teleoperate factory elements to them Each year., Powered by
laser energy beamed to them from GEO, operated telerobotically by
people on Earth, and making things more cheaply than they can be made
on Earth, and in unlimited quantities without harming the environment
- products rain down precisely to where they're needed. Anyone may
work from anywhere and receive pay and buy any product. While Earth
is a primary consumer, the Moon and Mars are large secondary conumers
of space made products at low cost.

a) mining
b) smelting
c) industrial goods
d) consumer durable goods
e) consumer non-durable goods
i) food
ii) paper and wood
f) space homes

7) Laser powered VTOL MEMs based propulsive skin aircraft widely
available - promotes dispersion from major cities and provides
personal ballistic transport anywhere within 42 minutes or less.

Propulsive skin is an interesting concept. There is research I know on
skin to reduce drag. In point of fact though electric propulsion might
mean that you could get away with conventional propellors.

8) Fuiller style 'Cloud Nine' floating cities - made on orbit and
deorbited to float. Each 1 km diameter sphere is guided heated and
powered by lasers from space - and carries 50,000 people on board.
66,000 cities eventually provide quality food, clothing, homes, jobs
and lifestyle for the 3.3 billion of the world's poorest people -
allowing them to accumulate rather quickly an asset base for their
future. These people will be among the firstr waves of emmigrants
off-world, joining the wealthy early-adopters among the stars.

9) Space homes - as the cost of space homes decline to less than the
cost of terrestrial homes, more and more people emmigrate from Earth.
Financial planning software along with appropriate payscales and
banking services worldwide, allow most of the 3.3 billion to retire
after 15 years of labor - as fully autonomous industrial robots
displace telerobotic labor over the same period. Many elect to buy
homes for the first time, and most, having become used to life aboard
'cloud nine' residences, elect to own their own space colony. VTOL
ballistic transports gain orbital capabilites in this time period.

10) Improved propulsion - propulsion and power systems for space
colonies drop in price to make a mobile interplanetary colony a
reality. This combined with autonomous robots and stable financial
growth - make this the golden age of interplanetary development. Mars
and the Moon gain their own industrial ring - and massive space colony
'parks' are developed throughout the Asteroid belt and beyond.

11) sun orbiting power satellites - long distance beaming of terawatt
and more laser energy throughout interplanetary space - along with
compact powersats operating within 3 million km of Sol, give fusion
generators a run for their money. And provide the basis for first
generation laser light sail spacecraft for interstellar voyages.
Smaller space colonies are highly automated, and reduced in weight -
with improved life support - to carry families across interstellar
distances - this includes stasis and longevity research success -
along with improved virtual reality and social contextual software.

12) high mass high energy atom smashers - black holes smaler than
atoms but massing more than a mountain range are assmpled by colliding
shaped pieces of iron-56 at 1/3 light speed or more. Slight variation
in collision conditions charge and spin the black holes precisely -
precisely engineering their event horizons. A decade of research has
the potential to create a new class of engineered product - one
capable of warping space and time - and building such things as time
telephones (instantaneous ...

I think you need to keep the far future vision in mind, yes. but tou
also need to think in terms of pushing present day technology in the
near term, and think of what you can do in terms of feasibility
studies.

I also think that in terms of launcher development, you need to think
internationally, towards Arianespace and Energia.

- Ian Parker

Never fear, as lord Mook is more than all-knowing and apparently never
makes a mistake, that is unless it's the fault of some crazy Muslims
or some other than Semitic faith-based group, though I’m a little
surprised your constructive contribution to this topic of his hasn’t
been Mook authenticated by yet another one of his do-everything
manifestos.

Even his vast surface area of complex mirror enhanced PVs consuming
space and thus creating those somewhat inefficient methods of his low
energy density footprints on behalf of green hydrogen production is
technically doable, given enough free land and reverse tax incentives
so that it's essentially public funded to start with.

BTW, I totally agree with the use of 3He(He3) in future space energy
demanding applications, although terrestrial thorium reactors are also
quite failsafe doable, as well as He3/fusion seems worthy.

Notions of lord Mook “pushing present day technology in the near term”
is asking a bit too much of our bipolar energy wizard, as is anything
of China or India CATS somehow taboo or off-limits according to the
all-or-nothing mindset of Mook.
. – Brad Guth

Warren Buffett, GE and even Dubai are going big-time into wind energy
investments, not to mention the other significant half of Europe that
isn’t already doing thorium reactors, and then we always have those
pesky Norwegian/Netherlands that never know when to give up, and
perhaps because it all represents by far the greatest energy density
per green tower footprint. Dubai and other nations based almost
entirely upon exporting and/or utilizing fossil energy by the
supertanker loads are more than ever getting down to their spendy
dregs of their soon to be dry wells, with few viable options other
than to go into renewable energy alternatives before it’s too late.

I’d suggested my tower footprint of composite energy density at 40 kw/
m2, with a future of 50 kw/m2 within our grasp. Of course our
resident energy wizard Mook could not only care less, but chose to
summarily topic/author stalk and bash at every possible consideration,
taking as much out-of-context and turning it all around as his all-
knowing naysay mindset could muster.

However, perhaps we should never fear but fear itself, as lord Mook is
more than all-knowing and apparently never makes a mistake, that is
unless it's the sneaky fault of some crazy Muslims or some other than
Semitic faith-based group, though I’m still a little surprised your
constructive contribution to this topic of his hasn’t been Mook
authenticated, by yet another one of his do-everything or else
manifestos.

Even his vast surface area of complex mirror enhanced PVs consuming
space and thus creating those somewhat inefficient methods of his low
energy density footprints on behalf of green hydrogen production is
technically doable, given enough free land and reverse tax incentives
so that it's essentially public funded to start with.

BTW, I totally agree with the use of 3He(He3) in future space energy
demanding applications, although terrestrial thorium reactors are also
quite failsafe doable, as well as He3/fusion seems worthy.

Notions of lord Mook “pushing present day technology in the near term”
is asking a bit too much of our bipolar energy wizard, as is anything
of China or India CATS somehow taboo or off-limits according to the
all-or-nothing mindset of Mook.
. – Brad Guth

interesting that you both think I'm against helium 3 merely because i
take certain realities into account.

The first reality is that we don't know how to do fusion - other than
in a nuclear weapon. however, recent declassified literature
indicates we might very likely build a hydrogen-flouride laser that
triggers a deuterium tritium primary that in turn sets off an
aneutronic secondary of any sort - in an ICF process.

So, I assume that's solved. The supply problem for helium3 is not
solved.

he3 has a lot higher specfici energy than boron - but both are awesome
when compared to chemical fuels.

Boron

the world currently produces over 1 million tons per year of the right
isotope of boron to do a protium boron anuetronic reaction - at a cost
of $7 million per ton. It would take an ICF nuclear pulse spacecraft
burning boron protium mix (borane) 1,000 tons of the stuff, costing $7
billion to return 25 billion tons of material from the asteroid belt
each year - at a cost of less than $100 per ton..

Helium 3

the world currently produces zero tons per year of helium three, there
is no market for it since none exists in sufficient quantities for a
market to form - even so a $12 billion per year effort might gather
the bulk of the 5 tons of helium 3 that exists in ALL the worlds
natural gas production - basically you pay to process ALL the world's
1.1 billion tons of natural gas, separating out the helium, and then
separating out the helium 3 isotope from that. - that's $2.4 billion
per ton production cost. It would take an ICF nuclear pulse
spacecraft burning he3 200 tons of he3 per year to return the same 25
bilion tons of material from the asteroid belt each year - the cost is
indeterminant since there is no helium 3 available on earth to do
that.

Obviously for anyone who has solved the ICF nuclear pulse rocket
problem they'll use boron for the bulk of the early flights, and
reserve helium 3 - if they trouble themselves to gather it - for high
energy flight - to the outer solar system.

think of boron as the deisel fuel and helium 3 as the racing fuel..
and lithium 6 as premium gasoline.

On Apr 28, 9:49 pm, Williamknowsbest wrote:
interesting that you both think I'm against helium 3 merely because i
take certain realities into account.

The first reality is that we don't know how to do fusion - other than
in a nuclear weapon. however, recent declassified literature
indicates we might very likely build a hydrogen-flouride laser that
triggers a deuterium tritium primary that in turn sets off an
aneutronic secondary of any sort - in an ICF process.

So, I assume that's solved. The supply problem for helium3 is not
solved.

he3 has a lot higher specfici energy than boron - but both are awesome
when compared to chemical fuels.

Boron

the world currently produces over 1 million tons per year of the right
isotope of boron to do a protium boron anuetronic reaction - at a cost
of $7 million per ton. It would take an ICF nuclear pulse spacecraft
burning boron protium mix (borane) 1,000 tons of the stuff, costing $7
billion to return 25 billion tons of material from the asteroid belt
each year - at a cost of less than $100 per ton..

Helium 3

the world currently produces zero tons per year of helium three, there
is no market for it since none exists in sufficient quantities for a
market to form - even so a $12 billion per year effort might gather
the bulk of the 5 tons of helium 3 that exists in ALL the worlds
natural gas production - basically you pay to process ALL the world's
1.1 billion tons of natural gas, separating out the helium, and then
separating out the helium 3 isotope from that. - that's $2.4 billion
per ton production cost. It would take an ICF nuclear pulse
spacecraft burning he3 200 tons of he3 per year to return the same 25
bilion tons of material from the asteroid belt each year - the cost is
indeterminant since there is no helium 3 available on earth to do
that.

Obviously for anyone who has solved the ICF nuclear pulse rocket
problem they'll use boron for the bulk of the early flights, and
reserve helium 3 - if they trouble themselves to gather it - for high
energy flight - to the outer solar system.

think of boron as the deisel fuel and helium 3 as the racing fuel..
and lithium 6 as premium gasoline.

At the daunting rate of Mook, perhaps our future is never.

Unless your words and charm alone can put and affordable gallon of gas
in the tank, food on the table, keep them home fires burning without
fear of foreclosure, and still manage to not be overrun by all them
other crazy heathens of Earth, chances are we're going to be flat out
of affordable fuel and starving ourselves to death while waiting for
something/anything of Mook energy to materialize.

Have you set a future decade or century when we might see an actual
commercial end product, of such clean and renewable energy from the
protected and tax avoidance offshore realm of Mook?

Or, how about that Mook improved barrel of crude oil, as extracted
form otherwise dead wells, or even that of your better and much
cheaper gasified tonne of coal as efficiently turned into synfuel
that's so much better than any other hydrogen enhanced fossil fuel on
Earth???

How about it, Mook. Decades after the fact, have you got anything at
all?
.. - Brad Guth

Some have worried about our current economic and political situation
and opined that we won't survive to see anything as visionary as food
from space.

To get a thing, you must work for a thing. Nothing is ever handed to
you. You've got to work for it.

So, the only thing I would ask anyone who is unhappy with the way the
world is, what are you doing to make it a better place? Look around
you. Do *something* instead of whining. Pick up a broom and sweep
out your house. Look around for something to do and do the right
thing, as often as you can as well as you can.

As far as my accomplishments. I've sponsored eight energy projects
around the world with my technology and they are all in various stages
of construciton. The first will be operational August 2011..

I have put out three proposals this week in the USA. One to the
Defense Energy Supply Center for 200 million gallons per month of DOD
jet fue, we'll know about that in July, and start producing in 2013 on
that onel.

Another to an aircraft manufacturer who will offer forward contracts
for jet fuel with each jet sold for a percentage of the selling price
paid when the jet is purchase. Since it takes 5 years to build a jet
once ordered, and it takes me 5 years to build a facility at a
greenfield site, there's a match. When an airline buys a jet, they
also buy a portion of a facility to supply jet fuel for the jet, so
they end up paying discounted prices. Actually, jet buyers are
smarter than that. They asked to buy enough capacity jet fuel to sell
fuel to others, to end up zeroing out their fuel price for 7 years.
They don't even have to take physical delivery of my fuel to benefit.
I sell it at market rates and give them the difference. At the end of
five years, they renew or buy a new jet.. A sweet deal.for everyone,
manufacturer of jets, operator of jets, the travelling public, me..
lol.

A national printer is a big user of electricity and natural gas. They
generate their own electricity with natural gas, and then use heat to
dry the ink and paper and so forth. Very energy intensive. We're
working on a deal to take the methane produced in my jet fuel plants,
pipe it over to the Henry Hub, and sell it. Since money now is worth
more to me than money later, I have worked a deal with these guys to
buy natural gas at a discounted price for a portion of it. That way
when I produce it, they again sell the excess and zero out their
energy costs. They do pay a small premium today howver. Again a win
win situation. I get my facility built and revenue today from it by
discounting a portion of the revenue to an energy intensive customer,
and that customer gets to zero out their fuel costs.

Of course we can look at how my technology affects stocks and move
forward that way, and bring about change. I have mentioned several
times my plans for Sunoco and Westmoreland coal. A great opportunity
to create value generating a 30 to 1 return in a matter of months by
merging these two companies..

I have also looked at airlines. Southwest Airlines is worth about
$9.5 billion and falling. They've got 500 airplanes that burn 350
million gallons of jet fuel per month. Just the size of one of my
facilities. I build a facility for $8 billion and produce jet fuel
for $0.20 per gallon, and make 370 million gallons of jet fuel per
month. I sell 20 million gallons at market rates, and that pays for
the whole thing. I burn the other 350 million gallons - and add $15
billion per year to the bottom line of the company. At 20x earnings
that's $300 billion increase in value. Well worth the $17.5 billion
acquisition and construciton costs.

Again, the airline doesn't need to take physical delivery to benefit.
They trade fuel and swap fuel with others with a slight over
production at these prices, to zero out their costs.

They already have the trading desk to hedge it. Getting into
production is the next logical step.

Look at Alcoa - 2.3 billion in free cash flow on $30 billion in
sales. A market cap of about $38 billion - they have a negative
leveraged cash flow, since they're so capital intensive.

Alcoa made 12.5 milllion tons of the 38 million tons of aluminum
produced world wide. Alcoa used 21.6 billion kWh to make all that
aluminum and spent $14 billion on electricity to do that. Reducing
that cost to $2 billion adds $12 billion to their bottom line,
increasing their leveraged free cash flow fo $15 billion from -$44
million - increasing their value to something in the $300 billion
range again!!


It has taken me 14 years to get this far. It will be a few more years
before production, and a few more years after that before we have a
sizeable impact on the market. In another 14 years, oil will be back
down to $30 per barrel because of my efforts. After that? Too cheap
to meter! lol.

On May 1, 7:18 am, Williamknowsbest wrote:
Some have worried about our current economic and political situation
and opined that we won't survive to see anything as visionary as food
from space.

To get a thing, you must work for a thing. Nothing is ever handed to
you. You've got to work for it.

So, the only thing I would ask anyone who is unhappy with the way the
world is, what are you doing to make it a better place? Look around
you. Do *something* instead of whining. Pick up a broom and sweep
out your house. Look around for something to do and do the right
thing, as often as you can as well as you can.

As far as my accomplishments. I've sponsored eight energy projects
around the world with my technology and they are all in various stages
of construciton. The first will be operational August 2011..

I have put out three proposals this week in the USA. One to the
Defense Energy Supply Center for 200 million gallons per month of DOD
jet fue, we'll know about that in July, and start producing in 2013 on
that onel.

Another to an aircraft manufacturer who will offer forward contracts
for jet fuel with each jet sold for a percentage of the selling price
paid when the jet is purchase. Since it takes 5 years to build a jet
once ordered, and it takes me 5 years to build a facility at a
greenfield site, there's a match. When an airline buys a jet, they
also buy a portion of a facility to supply jet fuel for the jet, so
they end up paying discounted prices. Actually, jet buyers are
smarter than that. They asked to buy enough capacity jet fuel to sell
fuel to others, to end up zeroing out their fuel price for 7 years.
They don't even have to take physical delivery of my fuel to benefit.
I sell it at market rates and give them the difference. At the end of
five years, they renew or buy a new jet.. A sweet deal.for everyone,
manufacturer of jets, operator of jets, the travelling public, me..
lol.

A national printer is a big user of electricity and natural gas. They
generate their own electricity with natural gas, and then use heat to
dry the ink and paper and so forth. Very energy intensive. We're
working on a deal to take the methane produced in my jet fuel plants,
pipe it over to the Henry Hub, and sell it. Since money now is worth
more to me than money later, I have worked a deal with these guys to
buy natural gas at a discounted price for a portion of it. That way
when I produce it, they again sell the excess and zero out their
energy costs. They do pay a small premium today howver. Again a win
win situation. I get my facility built and revenue today from it by
discounting a portion of the revenue to an energy intensive customer,
and that customer gets to zero out their fuel costs.

Of course we can look at how my technology affects stocks and move
forward that way, and bring about change. I have mentioned several
times my plans for Sunoco and Westmoreland coal. A great opportunity
to create value generating a 30 to 1 return in a matter of months by
merging these two companies..

I have also looked at airlines. Southwest Airlines is worth about
$9.5 billion and falling. They've got 500 airplanes that burn 350
million gallons of jet fuel per month. Just the size of one of my
facilities. I build a facility for $8 billion and produce jet fuel
for $0.20 per gallon, and make 370 million gallons of jet fuel per
month. I sell 20 million gallons at market rates, and that pays for
the whole thing. I burn the other 350 million gallons - and add $15
billion per year to the bottom line of the company. At 20x earnings
that's $300 billion increase in value. Well worth the $17.5 billion
acquisition and construciton costs.

Again, the airline doesn't need to take physical delivery to benefit.
They trade fuel and swap fuel with others with a slight over
production at these prices, to zero out their costs.

They already have the trading desk to hedge it. Getting into
production is the next logical step.

Look at Alcoa - 2.3 billion in free cash flow on $30 billion in
sales. A market cap of about $38 billion - they have a negative
leveraged cash flow, since they're so capital intensive.

Alcoa made 12.5 milllion tons of the 38 million tons of aluminum
produced world wide. Alcoa used 21.6 billion kWh to make all that
aluminum and spent $14 billion on electricity to do that. Reducing
that cost to $2 billion adds $12 billion to their bottom line,
increasing their leveraged free cash flow fo $15 billion from -$44
million - increasing their value to something in the $300 billion
range again!!

It has taken me 14 years to get this far. It will be a few more years
before production, and a few more years after that before we have a
sizeable impact on the market. In another 14 years, oil will be back
down to $30 per barrel because of my efforts. After that? Too cheap
to meter! lol.

This calls for more BD medication, before it's too late. Try at first
to merely double the dosage every now and then.

ExxonMobil and the likes of ENRON would much rather risk having to
whack Mook, than allow their bloody oil, coal and natural gas to fall
much below their artificial $100/barrel worth of thermal energy mark.

Where's that first cheap commercial tonne of Mook hydrogen?
.. - Brad Guth