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Old September 23rd 15, 09:31 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Uncarollo2
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Default Antarctic Analemma

"Does the Sun return to the same spot on the sky every day? No. A better and more visual answer to that question is an analemma, a composite image taken from the same spot at the same time over the course of a year."

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
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Old September 23rd 15, 09:52 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 9:31:14 PM UTC+1, Uncarollo2 wrote:
"Does the Sun return to the same spot on the sky every day? No. A better and more visual answer to that question is an analemma, a composite image taken from the same spot at the same time over the course of a year."

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html


Ah, 'the wandering Sun' the complete antithesis of astronomy.

The great astronomical tradition has the Sun move directly through the Zodiac as opposed to the true 'wanderers',in this case the planets -

" Moreover, we see the other five planets also retrograde at times, and stationary at either end [of the regression]. And whereas the sun always advances along its own direct path, they wander in various ways, straying sometimes to the south and sometimes to the north; that is why they are called "planets" [wanderers]. " Copernicus

The new approach is to consider the motion of the background stars in sequence behind the Sun and its glare due to the orbital motion of the Earth thereby creating the masterpiece which is the observed motion of Venus -

http://www.masil-astro-imaging.com/S...age%20flat.jpg

Why don't you go try to blow up a national monument Rolando where you can do less damage because there is nothing in the astronomical tradition stretching back to antiquity and all the noble astronomers in that tradition to support a stupid and hideous wandering Sun.

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Old September 23rd 15, 10:09 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 13:31:11 -0700 (PDT), Uncarollo2 wrote:

"Does the Sun return to the same spot on the sky every day? No. A better and more visual answer to that question is an analemma, a composite image taken from the same spot at the same time over the course of a year."

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html


http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap150923.html

is a better url because it will always be available while the astropix
one changes daily.
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Old September 24th 15, 05:39 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default Antarctic Analemma

On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:09:36 +0100 (BST), "Rodney Pont"
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 13:31:11 -0700 (PDT), Uncarollo2 wrote:


"Does the Sun return to the same spot on the sky every day? No. A

better and more visual answer to that question is an analemma, a
composite image taken from the same spot at the same time over the
course of a year."

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html


http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap150923.html

Huj
is a better url because it will always be available


Do you really know for sure that it still will be
available when the Sun has turned inte a red giant
some 5 billion years from now?

while the astropix one changes daily.
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Faster, cheaper, quieter than HS2
and built in 5 years;
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Old September 24th 15, 07:09 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Rodney Pont[_5_]
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 06:39:44 +0200, Paul Schlyter wrote:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap150923.html

Huj
is a better url because it will be available as long as the web site is running


Do you really know for sure that it still will be
available when the Sun has turned inte a red giant
some 5 billion years from now?


:-)

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Old September 24th 15, 02:03 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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There must be some sort of false freedom to present these things in the modern era as it defies all astronomical conventions by which the observed motions of the Sun were meant to account for the actual motions of the Earth.

Not even the attraction of splitting perspectives between the inner and outer planets using the influences of the Earth's orbital motion appears to move readers and especially as the inputs supplied by the Earth for the inner planet prohibit anything other than a stationary central Sun where the stars move incrementally with each nightly appearance as ElNath,Castor and Pollux are seen to do -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdFrE7hWj0A

The only resource I have are the actual images,this forum and a sense of hope that people who are currently shut out of astronomy will adopt and adapt to what imaging is telling them rather than a clockwork mirage that is a worthless 'analemma'.

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Old September 24th 15, 04:50 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default Antarctic Analemma

On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 4:31:14 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
"Does the Sun return to the same spot on the sky every day? No. A better and more visual answer to that question is an analemma, a composite image taken from the same spot at the same time over the course of a year."

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html


It's been done before and much better.

That image is a mess! Maybe they should put the tripod on solid ground next time. Astro pic of the day?? It must have been a slow day!
 




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