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What Kind of Organization Questions Global Warming?
On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 7:56:18 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 6:28:28 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 1:16:00 AM UTC-4, Chris.B wrote: On Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:12:39 UTC+2, wsne... wrote: On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 2:35:39 AM UTC-4, Chris.B wrote: However well meaning, you cannot de-faith anyone with logical argument. That certainly explains your problems. I retain my deep faith that you will continue to argue with anybody and anything. If you don't like to argue then accept what I say. I think it was Benjamin Franklin who noted that, unless one claims to be infallible, he has to admit that in some things he must be wrong, he just doesn't know in which things. Therefore, thought Franklin, all our ideas ought to held with humility, knowing our own fallibility. You think that any disagreement with what you say is "argument." Perhaps you should follow Franklin's advice, lest ye be labelled a hypocrite for yet another reason. |
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On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 3:54:38 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wrote: The Medieval Warm Period is known by indirect evidence. The warmingistas wish to use "recent" temp records since ~ very late 19th century to claim an unusual warming trend. They should use indirect evidence comparable to that used to discern the MWP. They don't. They do! Study the methods and literature. Incorrect, that is a "false fact!" you can find the medieval warm period and the little ice age from this table of greenland ice core data. ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/pal..._alley2000.txt |
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On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 10:13:31 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
wsnell01 wrote: On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 3:54:38 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: The Medieval Warm Period is known by indirect evidence. The warmingistas wish to use "recent" temp records since ~ very late 19th century to claim an unusual warming trend. They should use indirect evidence comparable to that used to discern the MWP. They don't. They do! Study the methods and literature. Incorrect, that is a "false fact!" you can find the medieval warm period and the little ice age from this table of greenland ice core data. ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/pal..._alley2000.txt I had already suggested such a thing. However, in order to be scientific, you must use modern ice core data to determine current temperatures, and those of the last century or so. |
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On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 10:13:31 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 3:54:38 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: The Medieval Warm Period is known by indirect evidence. The warmingistas wish to use "recent" temp records since ~ very late 19th century to claim an unusual warming trend. They should use indirect evidence comparable to that used to discern the MWP. They don't. They do! Study the methods and literature. Incorrect, that is a "false fact!" you can find the medieval warm period and the little ice age from this table of greenland ice core data. ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/pal..._alley2000.txt I had already suggested such a thing. However, in order to be scientific, you must use modern ice core data to determine current temperatures, and those of the last century or so. If you looked at the table you would see the modern data which agrees with modern temperature measurements. Stop trying to deny the data and just look at it scientifically. There's lots more there to examine. It took me about 40 seconds to did up that table. You could do the same but all your searches seem to be contra searches. They certainly result in a lot of right wing contra propaganda site. Or do you just ignore those with conclusions you don't like? |
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On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 8:04:56 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
wsnell01 wrote: On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 10:13:31 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 3:54:38 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: The Medieval Warm Period is known by indirect evidence. The warmingistas wish to use "recent" temp records since ~ very late 19th century to claim an unusual warming trend. They should use indirect evidence comparable to that used to discern the MWP. They don't. They do! Study the methods and literature. Incorrect, that is a "false fact!" you can find the medieval warm period and the little ice age from this table of greenland ice core data. ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/pal..._alley2000.txt I had already suggested such a thing. However, in order to be scientific, you must use modern ice core data to determine current temperatures, and those of the last century or so. If you looked at the table you would see the modern data which agrees with modern temperature measurements. Your table shows no such thing. |
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On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 8:04:56 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 10:13:31 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 3:54:38 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: The Medieval Warm Period is known by indirect evidence. The warmingistas wish to use "recent" temp records since ~ very late 19th century to claim an unusual warming trend. They should use indirect evidence comparable to that used to discern the MWP. They don't. They do! Study the methods and literature. Incorrect, that is a "false fact!" you can find the medieval warm period and the little ice age from this table of greenland ice core data. ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/pal..._alley2000.txt I had already suggested such a thing. However, in order to be scientific, you must use modern ice core data to determine current temperatures, and those of the last century or so. If you looked at the table you would see the modern data which agrees with modern temperature measurements. Your table shows no such thing. It does but with not many values. http://www.iceandclimate.nbi.ku.dk/p...._Sorensen.pdf Shows the correlation of Greenland ice core measurements with actual temperature measurements among other data. |
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On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 9:01:14 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
wsnell01 wrote: On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 8:04:56 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 10:13:31 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 3:54:38 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: The Medieval Warm Period is known by indirect evidence. The warmingistas wish to use "recent" temp records since ~ very late 19th century to claim an unusual warming trend. They should use indirect evidence comparable to that used to discern the MWP. They don't. They do! Study the methods and literature. Incorrect, that is a "false fact!" you can find the medieval warm period and the little ice age from this table of greenland ice core data. ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/pal..._alley2000.txt I had already suggested such a thing. However, in order to be scientific, you must use modern ice core data to determine current temperatures, and those of the last century or so. If you looked at the table you would see the modern data which agrees with modern temperature measurements. Your table shows no such thing. It does but with not many values. The latest "reading" listed was .095 thousand years ago, ie 95 years ago. |
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On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 9:01:14 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 8:04:56 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 10:13:31 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 3:54:38 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: The Medieval Warm Period is known by indirect evidence. The warmingistas wish to use "recent" temp records since ~ very late 19th century to claim an unusual warming trend. They should use indirect evidence comparable to that used to discern the MWP. They don't. They do! Study the methods and literature. Incorrect, that is a "false fact!" you can find the medieval warm period and the little ice age from this table of greenland ice core data. ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/pal..._alley2000.txt I had already suggested such a thing. However, in order to be scientific, you must use modern ice core data to determine current temperatures, and those of the last century or so. If you looked at the table you would see the modern data which agrees with modern temperature measurements. Your table shows no such thing. It does but with not many values. The latest "reading" listed was .095 thousand years ago, ie 95 years ago. When temperature data was available for comparison. |
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On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 12:27:09 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
wsnell01 wrote: The latest "reading" listed was .095 thousand years ago, ie 95 years ago. When temperature data was available for comparison. EXACTLY! |
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On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 12:27:09 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: The latest "reading" listed was .095 thousand years ago, ie 95 years ago. When temperature data was available for comparison. EXACTLY! I've already given you a second and very detailed report of the 20th century correlations between Greenland ice cores and actual temperature measurements and you're posting as if it weren't there. Go back and read it. |
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