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Dark matter hides, physicists seek (Forwarded)
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Stanford University Stanford, California Contact: Dawn Levy, News Service (650) 725-1944 Comment: Blas Cabrera, Physics (650) 723-3395 November 28, 2006 Dark matter hides, physicists seek By Clara Moskowitz Scientists don't know what dark matter is, but they know it's all over the universe. Everything humans observe in the heavens -- galaxies, stars, planets and the rest -- makes up only 4 percent of the universe, scientists say. The remaining 96 percent is composed of dark matter and its even more mysterious sibling, dark energy. Scientists recently found direct evidence that dark matter exists by studying a distant galaxy cluster and observing different types of motion in luminous versus dark matter. Still, no one knows what dark matter is made of. Now, a pioneering international project co-led by Stanford physicist Blas Cabrera may finally crack the case and pin down the elusive particles that form dark matter. "It's harder and harder to get away from the fact that there is a substance out there that's making up most of the universe that we can't see," says Cabrera. "The stars and galaxies themselves are like Christmas tree lights on this huge ship that's dark and neither absorbs nor emits light." Buried deep underground in a mineshaft in Minnesota lies Cabrera's project, called the Cryogenic Dark Matter Search II (CDMS II). University of California-Berkeley physicist Bernard Sadoulet serves as spokesperson for the effort. Fermilab's Dan Bauer is its project manager, and Dan Akerib from Case Western Reserve University is the deputy project manager. A team of 46 scientists at 13 institutions collaborates on the project. To catch a WIMP The experiment is the most sensitive in the world aiming to detect exotic particles called WIMPS (Weakly Interacting Massive Particles), which are one of scientists' best guesses at what makes up dark matter. Other options include neutrinos, theorized particles called axions or even normal matter like black holes and brown dwarf stars that are just too faint to see. WIMPS are thought to be neutral in charge and weigh more than 100 times the mass of a proton. At the moment these elementary particles exist only in theory and have never been observed. Scientists think they haven't found them yet because they're excruciatingly difficult to capture. WIMPS don't interact with most matter -- the shy particles pass right through our bodies -- but CDMS II aims to catch them in a rare collision with the atoms in the project's special-made detectors. "These particles mostly pass through the Earth without scattering," Cabrera says. "The only reason we even have a chance of seeing events is because [there are] so many of the particles that very rarely one will come [into the detector] and scatter." The detectors are hidden under layers of earth in Minnesota's Soudan mine to protect them from cosmic rays and other particles that might collide with the detectors and be mistaken for dark matter. In fact, half the battle for the scientists working on CDMS II is to shield their instruments as much as possible from everything but WIMPS and to develop elaborate systems to tell the difference between dark matter and more mundane particles. "Our detector is this hockey-puck-shaped thing that needs to live at 50 thousandths of a degree above absolute zero," says Walter Ogburn, a graduate student at Stanford who works on the project. "It's hard to make things that cold." To that end, the instruments are nestled in a canister called an icebox, lined with six layers of insulation, from room temperature on the outside to coldest on the inside. This keeps the detectors so cold that even atoms can't shiver. The detectors are made of crystals of solid silicon and solid germanium. The silicon or germanium atoms sit still in a perfect lattice. If WIMPS crash into them, they will wiggle and give off tiny packets of heat called phonons. When phonons rise to the surface of the detectors, they create a change in a very sensitive layer of tungsten, which the researchers can record. A second circuit on the other side of the detector measures ions, charged particles that would be released from a collision of a WIMP and an atom in the detector. "Those two channels let us discriminate between different kinds of interactions," says Ogburn. "Some things make more ionization and some things make less, so you can tell the difference that way." It takes a squad of scientists at multiple facilities to build the detectors. The team buys the crystals from an outside company, and researchers at Stanford's Center for Integrated Systems make measuring instruments on the surfaces of the detectors. "We use the same things to make these that people use to make microprocessors because those are also super tiny," says Matt Pyle, another graduate student in Cabrera's lab. Clumps of clues A subset of WIMPS, called neutralinos, are the lightest particles expected by supersymmetry, a theory that predicts a mate for every particle we've already observed. If CDMS II is successful in finding neutralinos, this would be the first evidence for supersymmetry. "Supersymmetry suggests there's a whole other sector out there of particles that are the partners to our existing particles," Cabrera says. "There are many ways in which supersymmetry looks very likely. But there's no direct evidence yet for any matching [supersymmetric] particle pair." The weak interactions of WIMPS are why, even though dark matter particles have mass and obey the laws of gravity, they do not clump into galaxies and stars like normal matter. In order to clump, particles must crash and stick together. But WIMPS most often would fly right by each other. Plus, because WIMPS are neutral, they do not form atoms, which require the attraction of positively charged protons to negatively charged electrons. "Dark matter permeates everything," Cabrera says. "It just never collapsed the way atoms did." Since dark matter never formed stars and other familiar heavenly objects, for a long time scientists never knew it was there. The earliest indication of its existence came in the 1930s when Fritz Zwicky, a Swiss-American astronomer, observed clusters of galaxies. He added up the masses of galaxies and noticed that there was not enough mass to account for the gravity that must exist to hold the clusters together. Something else must provide the missing mass, he deduced. Later in the 1970s, Vera Rubin, an American astronomer, measured the speeds of stars in the Milky Way and other nearby galaxies. As she looked farther out toward the edges of these galaxies, she found that the stars do not rotate more slowly as scientists expected. "That didn't make any sense," Cabrera says. "The only way you could understand it is if there was a lot more mass there than what you saw in the starlight." Over the years, more and more evidence for dark matter has piled up. Although scientists don't yet know what it is, they have a better idea of where it is and how much of it there should be. "There's very little wiggle room left for having different quantities," Cabrera says. "We've not seen anything that looks like an interesting signal to date," he says. But the CDMS II researchers continue the search. So, too, do other groups. ZEPLIN, an experiment run by physicists at the University of California-Los Angeles and the United Kingdom Dark Matter Collaboration, aims to catch WIMPs in liquid vats of xenon in a mine near Sheffield, England. And at the South Pole, a University of Wisconsin-Madison project called IceCube is under construction that will use optical sensors buried deep in the ice to look for neutrinos, high-energy particles that are signatures of WIMP annihilations. Meanwhile, CDMS II continues to evolve. Its researchers are building bigger and bigger detectors to increase their chances of finding WIMPS. In the future, the team hopes to build a 1-ton detector that should be able to discover many of the most probable types of WIMPS, if they exist. "We're taking data now with more than twice as much target mass of germanium than we had before, so we're definitely exploring new territory right now," says Ogburn. "But there's a lot more to cover." [Clara Moskowitz is a science-writing intern with Stanford News Service.] -30- Editor Note: Science-writing intern Clara Moskowitz wrote this release. A photo of the detector is available on the web at http://newsphotos.stanford.edu/CDMS/ Relevant Web URLs: * Cryogenic Dark Matter Search II Website http://cdms.berkeley.edu/ |
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Dark matter hides, physicists seek (Forwarded)
"Andrew Yee" schreef in bericht ... Dark matter hides, physicists seek By Clara Moskowitz Scientists don't know what dark matter is, but they know it's all over the universe. Everything humans observe in the heavens -- galaxies, stars, planets and the rest -- makes up only 4 percent of the universe, scientists say. The remaining 96 percent is composed of dark matter and its even more mysterious sibling, dark energy. Scientists recently found direct evidence that dark matter exists by studying a distant galaxy cluster and observing different types of motion in luminous versus dark matter. Still, no one knows what dark matter is made of. "Dark matter permeates everything," Cabrera says. "It just never collapsed the way atoms did." Since dark matter never formed stars and other familiar heavenly objects, for a long time scientists never knew it was there. The earliest indication of its existence came in the 1930s when Fritz Zwicky, a Swiss-American astronomer, observed clusters of galaxies. He added up the masses of galaxies and noticed that there was not enough mass to account for the gravity that must exist to hold the clusters together. Something else must provide the missing mass, he deduced. Later in the 1970s, Vera Rubin, an American astronomer, measured the speeds of stars in the Milky Way and other nearby galaxies. As she looked farther out toward the edges of these galaxies, she found that the stars do not rotate more slowly as scientists expected. "That didn't make any sense," Cabrera says. "The only way you could understand it is if there was a lot more mass there than what you saw in the starlight." That is correct. If you compare the rotation curve of our planets around the Sun with the stars around the centre of our galaxy then in the first case the speed almost decreases lineair with distance (1/r) while in the second case first there is an increase with distance and after a certain distance the speed is constant and the rotation curve becomes flat. To explain the first is easy because the planets behave like point masses. To explain the second requires that the 3D shape of the galaxy including all the stars and planets have to be taken into account. Such an explanation starts by taking all the visible stars into account. Current observations reveal (Hubble) that galaxies are much larger and consists of much more visible stars (made of ordinary matter) than original thought of. The result is that if you compare a simulated rotation curve of a galaxy in the past (less stars) with the one now (more stars) they become flatter and longer. In short the difference with observation becomes less and what is important less missing mass has to be included to completely match observation. (of rotation curve) In short less and less dark matter is required. My prediction is that in the future no dark matter is required to explain the rotations curves of our galaxy and all galaxies. Nicolaas Vroom http://users.pandora.be/nicvroom/ |
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Dark matter hides, physicists seek (Forwarded)
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"Nicolaas Vroom" writes: Current observations reveal (Hubble) that galaxies are much larger and consists of much more visible stars (made of ordinary matter) than original thought of. Reference, please? I'm not aware of any Hubble observations suggesting nearby galaxies are either larger or have more stars than previously thought. -- Steve Willner Phone 617-495-7123 Cambridge, MA 02138 USA (Please email your reply if you want to be sure I see it; include a valid Reply-To address to receive an acknowledgement. Commercial email may be sent to your ISP.) |
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Dark matter hides, physicists seek (Forwarded)
I speculate that dark energy is not a repelling force as scientists
speculate, but a propelling force that arises in regards to rotating spiral galaxies. The expansion of the Universe may have a different explanation than dark energy, say if spiral galaxies compact and gain rotating speeds, perhaps they gain speed. The result is that spiral galaxies are like trains that are gaining speed everywhere, and the result is the appearance of an accelerated expansion (this should not apply to elliptic galaxies, but they might be dragged along). gmb |
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Dark matter hides, physicists seek (Forwarded)
"Steve Willner" schreef in bericht ... In article , "Nicolaas Vroom" writes: Current observations reveal (Hubble) that galaxies are much larger and consists of much more visible stars (made of ordinary matter) than original thought of. Reference, please? I'm not aware of any Hubble observations suggesting nearby galaxies are either larger or have more stars than previously thought. I'am wrong with respect to Hubble, but the following URL clearly makes my point: http://www.gemini.edu/index.php?opti...sk=view&id=144 or http://www.gemini.edu/index.php?option=com_gem_releases Select 2005 August 10: Gemini Uncovers 'Lost City' of Stars The text states: "The finding also implies that our own Milky Way Galaxy could be much larger than current textbooks say. " But this link is also interesting: http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn8746 The text states: The team estimates there may be more than a million cataclysmic variables and about one billion active stars in the galaxy. These figures are about 100 times higher than some recent estimates, but Mukai thinks the numbers may in fact be much higher again. The following link is also interesting: http://www.sdss.org/news/releases/20...ndromeda9.html They also speak about dark matter in relation to those faint galaxies. However my conclusion is different. IMO all those pictures show that there are much more stars in galaxies than original thought of / observed. My conclusion is that this leads to less dark matter (not more) in order to explain the rotation curves. Nicolaas Vroom http://users.pandora.be/nicvroom/ |
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Dark matter hides, physicists seek (Forwarded)
"Nicolaas Vroom" schreef in bericht ... "Steve Willner" schreef in bericht ... In article , "Nicolaas Vroom" writes: Current observations reveal (Hubble) that galaxies are much larger and consists of much more visible stars (made of ordinary matter) than original thought of. Reference, please? I'm not aware of any Hubble observations suggesting nearby galaxies are either larger or have more stars than previously thought. I'am wrong with respect to Hubble, but the following URL clearly makes my point: http://www.gemini.edu/index.php?opti...sk=view&id=144 or http://www.gemini.edu/index.php?option=com_gem_releases Select 2005 August 10: Gemini Uncovers 'Lost City' of Stars The text states: "The finding also implies that our own Milky Way Galaxy could be much larger than current textbooks say. " But this link is also interesting: http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn8746 The text states: The team estimates there may be more than a million cataclysmic variables and about one billion active stars in the galaxy. These figures are about 100 times higher than some recent estimates, but Mukai thinks the numbers may in fact be much higher again. The following link is also interesting: http://www.sdss.org/news/releases/20...ndromeda9.html They also speak about dark matter in relation to those faint galaxies. However my conclusion is different. An other one: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16521828/ about M31 Andromeda Galaxy IMO all those pictures show that there are much more stars in galaxies than original thought of / observed. My conclusion is that this leads to less dark matter (not more) in order to explain the rotation curves. Nicolaas Vroom http://users.pandora.be/nicvroom/ |
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Dark matter hides, physicists seek (Forwarded)
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"Nicolaas Vroom" writes: http://www.gemini.edu/index.php?option=com_gem_releases Select 2005 August 10: Gemini Uncovers 'Lost City' of Stars As often happens, the press release is misleading. The abstract of the published paper is at http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/ApJ....abstract.html and states "The luminosity profile is well described by a nucleus plus a simple exponential profile out to 10 optical scale lengths." In other words, the star density is about what is expected; the new result is that there is no tidal truncation or other effect on the outer disk. http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn8746 This suggests more cataclysmic variables than expected. That could be caused either by more white dwarfs than expected or a greater fraction of them being cv's. Either way, it doesn't suggest greater numbers of stars overall. (In spite of the note above, I haven't bothered to read the paper itself.) http://www.sdss.org/news/releases/20...ndromeda9.html Not sure what your point is here. It wouldn't surprise anyone if there are lots more dwarf satellites of M31 and the Milky Way. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16521828/ I can't find the paper or preprint, but if these stars are so difficult to find, they represent a trivial amount of mass. IMO all those pictures show that there are much more stars in galaxies than original thought of / observed. You need to quantify "much." How does it compare to the known mass? And what form is this purported matter supposed to be in? In particular, what mass to light ratio does it have at, say, R or 3.6 microns? My conclusion is that this leads to less dark matter (not more) in order to explain the rotation curves. The sense of the argument is right: if the luminous mass is higher, there's less dark matter needed. However, the _amount_ of change suggested by the references looks trivial to me. Moreover, the rotation curves require a matter _distribution_ different from the luminosity distribution, not only an increase in quantity. -- Steve Willner Phone 617-495-7123 Cambridge, MA 02138 USA (Please email your reply if you want to be sure I see it; include a valid Reply-To address to receive an acknowledgement. Commercial email may be sent to your ISP.) |
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Dark matter hides, physicists seek (Forwarded)
"Steve Willner" schreef in bericht ... In article , "Nicolaas Vroom" writes: http://www.gemini.edu/index.php?option=com_gem_releases Select 2005 August 10: Gemini Uncovers 'Lost City' of Stars As often happens, the press release is misleading. The abstract of the published paper is at http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/ApJ....abstract.html and states "The luminosity profile is well described by a nucleus plus a simple exponential profile out to 10 optical scale lengths." In other words, the star density is about what is expected; the new result is that there is no tidal truncation or other effect on the outer disk. That same abstract shows: "which doubles the known radial extent of the optical disk." and: "We find no evidence for truncation of the stellar disk" http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn8746 This suggests more cataclysmic variables than expected. That could be caused either by more white dwarfs than expected or a greater fraction of them being cv's. Either way, it doesn't suggest greater numbers of stars overall. (In spite of the note above, I haven't bothered to read the paper itself.) http://www.sdss.org/news/releases/20...ndromeda9.html Not sure what your point is here. It wouldn't surprise anyone if there are lots more dwarf satellites of M31 and the Milky Way. The same as above: M31 contains (much ?) more stars as previously known. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16521828/ I can't find the paper or preprint, but if these stars are so difficult to find, they represent a trivial amount of mass. See below. IMO all those pictures show that there are much more stars in galaxies than original thought of / observed. You need to quantify "much." How does it compare to the known mass? I cannot correctly quantify this. I have no idea what the size/mass is of the newly discovered individual stars is in NGC300 relative to Our Sun. (Any idea ?) I agree the total mass is small relative to the total mass. However (and that is important) the size of the rotation curves should be shown much larger as previously known. The question is does the rotation curve stays flat. I assume it (more or less) does. My simulations of a galaxy with a visible mass M and disc size l compared with an extended galaxy of vis. mass M+dm and with size 2*l (that means outer disc has vis mass dm) show that if you compare the two rotation curves the speed v of the second rot. curve will increase at distance l. That means the rotation curve becomes more flat (specific the old part before distance l) and compares better with observation. (There is even reason to assume that M can now be larger) All in all there is less darkmatter required to make the disc flat. And what form is this purported matter supposed to be in? In particular, what mass to light ratio does it have at, say, R or 3.6 microns? microns ? I do not understand My conclusion is that this leads to less dark matter (not more) in order to explain the rotation curves. The sense of the argument is right: if the luminous mass is higher, there's less dark matter needed. I agree GOTO: http://www.aao.gov.au/local/www/jbh/A1/ and listen to D: How do discs form .mp3 However, the _amount_ of change suggested by the references looks trivial to me. I expect you mean small. The question is what is the smallest size individual stars that are currently discovered. If this are sun like stars than you can expect that there are also many more smaller ones still to be discovered, decreasing the amount of darkmatter required to make the rotation curve flat. Nicolaas Vroom http://users.pandora.be/nicvroom/ Moreover, the rotation curves require a matter _distribution_ different from the luminosity distribution, not only an increase in quantity. -- Steve Willner Phone 617-495-7123 Cambridge, MA 02138 USA (Please email your reply if you want to be sure I see it; include a valid Reply-To address to receive an acknowledgement. Commercial email may be sent to your ISP.) |
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Dark matter hides, physicists seek (Forwarded)
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/ApJ....abstract.html
In article , "Nicolaas Vroom" writes: That same abstract shows: "which doubles the known radial extent of the optical disk." and: "We find no evidence for truncation of the stellar disk" Let's back up a little. Galaxy disks are described by an exponential law, where density d = d0*exp(-r/l). In this formula, d0 is the central density of the disk, r is distance from the galaxy center, and l is a constant called the "scale length." The scale length for M31, for example, is about 6 kpc; other galaxies have their own values. In order to find the total stellar light, observers measure the surface brightness out as far as they can, then fit the observations to the above functional form. (There's a complication from the galaxy's bulge, but it is fit and subtracted away.) Then one calculates the _total_ light at all radii (in other words, integrate the function from zero to infinity). This is accurate enough even if the measurements only extend to a few scale lengths; the light outside 3 scale lengths is only 20% of the total, and the light outside 5 scale lengths is 4% of the total. What the paper above reports are _observations_ of stars far from the center of NGC 300, specifically at 10 scale lengths. The observations confirm that the density is as expected from the exponential law. That's a bit surprising, given the possibility of tidal interactions, but it doesn't increase the mass or radius of NGC 300 over what was already expected from the exponential law. The distant stars were already taken into account even though they had not yet been observed. If the exponential law continues beyond 10 scale lengths, there will be another 0.05% of the galaxy's mass beyond that radius, but it will hardly make any difference to the dynamics whether it's there or not. The paper above does not give any evidence that NGC 300 was larger in size or more massive than thought before. http://www.sdss.org/news/releases/20...ndromeda9.html M31 contains (much ?) more stars as previously known. The reference is to a dwarf _companion_ galaxy of M31. There are lots of those around, and they don't change the mass of M31. You need to quantify "much." How does it compare to the known mass? I cannot correctly quantify this. Even if some observation shows more stars than previously known, you have to ask whether the new stars have enough mass to affect the rotation. That's a _quantitative_ question of the sort seldom if ever addressed in press releases. And what form is this purported matter supposed to be in? In particular, what mass to light ratio does it have at, say, R or 3.6 microns? microns ? I do not understand I was referring to the wavelength of observation. 3.6 microns is a good wavelength for measuring luminous mass of galaxies because the mass is fairly insensitive to the exact types of stars, and sensitive observations are possible with the Spitzer Space Telescope. The question is what is the smallest size individual stars that are currently discovered. If this are sun like stars than you can expect that there are also many more smaller ones still to be discovered, decreasing the amount of darkmatter required to make the rotation curve flat. Here you are asking about the stellar mass function: the relative numbers of stars of different masses. As you say, the least massive stars are not measured directly, and one has to assume a mass function and thus a mass to light ratio. There are a number of constraints on M/L (not least local observations in the Sun's neighborhood), but it could be systematically wrong or different in different galaxies. People work on this question in various ways, for example by observing at many different wavelengths and by using spectroscopy, but there is still some uncertainty. However, none of the observations you have cited changes our knowledge of the mass function, nor will any _simple_ change in the mass function by itself get rid of the need for dark matter. Of course you can always "fix up" a mass function that changes with radius in just such a way as to reproduce the rotation curve, but there's no separate evidence for such a change. -- Steve Willner Phone 617-495-7123 Cambridge, MA 02138 USA (Please email your reply if you want to be sure I see it; include a valid Reply-To address to receive an acknowledgement. Commercial email may be sent to your ISP.) |
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