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On Apr 14, 9:44 am, The Ghost In The Machine
wrote: Assuming a scale height of 9 km (Google is being maddeningly unclear on the matter), I get 6.3 * 10^19 moles for the entire atmosphere. Sulfuric acid would then be 1.89 * 10^11 moles or 1.85 * 10^10 kg, again assuming the 0.0000003%. The first 9 km worth of that thick and robust Venus atmosphere is sharing almost nothing to speak of. It's called cover thy butt science, whereas fairly recently they had been using the first 15 km worth, and thereby taking the revised 9 km worth of scale height is what makes their old numbers look as those they'd actually been honestly derived by way of the best available science. The true scale height of the Venus atmosphere is actually worth a little better than 150 km, and possibly as great as 175 km. This is far too much handwaving for my liking, admittedly, and this acid would be distributed Venus-wide, making extraction of all of it difficult. Basic laws of physics blows most of your "handwaving" out the window. Your naysayism and anti-think-tank mindset is per usual spoken like a good little Third Reich minion. There's still a little too much brown on that silly nose of your's, isn't there. Those interesting and most likely extremely acidic clouds don't hardly start in until getting well enough past the 40+ km mark (somewhat haze worthy below 45 km), and there's still a good deal of a top side haze that's going past the altitude of 100 km. At 150+ km there's even a layer of what's mostly O2 to work with. By far the best part of the Venusian atmosphere has been systematically excluded or otherwise banished from what should have been the hot topic of understanding why so little of that solar IR energy gets down to the deck. It's roughly a 1 bar environment of what's most extensively S8 in the atmospheric realm of 50 km. The element of S8 has a SG worth of 2 g/ cm3, and as you continue upward it's obviously getting even cooler (less vapor and more of S8 solids to deal with), and that ratio of elements should thereby become more worthy of becoming mostly Co2 that's clearly a less massive element than S8. Just a few km below the 50 km mark (especially if going by that long season of nighttime), there's a fairly robust layer of concentrated S8 to deal with. Of course h2o and S8 makes for a rather nasty acid, that's likely to being wet anywhere near or above the 50 km mark. John Ackerman offers a reasonably good interpretation of the best available science, thereby shares his honest review and subsequent analogy of what's available, and as such it's not nearly as slight as we've been informed. There's simply more of that Venusian water to behold, of what's likely formulated within those acidic clouds and extensive zones or layer of haze, than is otherwise given credit by the likes of whatever's suggested by way of our NASA and of having obtained their mostly Jewish peer review's stamp of approval. BTW; the GOOGLE/Usenet gauntlet of spermware/****ware is running extremely hot and nasty these days, as my poor old PC keeps getting nailed to death by an extra butt-load of their nasty crapolla, as it deploys yet another tonne of their damage-control flak. - Brad Guth |
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BTW; the GOOGLE/Usenet gauntlet of spermware/****ware is running extremely hot and nasty these days, as my poor old PC keeps getting nailed to death by an extra butt-load of their nasty crapolla, as it deploys yet another tonne of their damage-control flak. Poor Brad, soooo clueless. -- Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco "Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, Deco? The section is clearly attributed to Art Deco, not to you, Deco." -- Dr. David Tholen "Who is "David Tholen", Daedalus? Still suffering from attribution problems?" -- Dr. David Tholen |
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Unlike those claiming to know all there is to know (the likes of Art
Deco and of his bed wetting partner Phineas T Puddleduck), usually insisting that all others are worth far less than village idiot status, whereas I simply do not know everything, and therefore I ask those pesky questions that tend to go unanswered, whereas then I have to make due with my exploratory research and deductive reasoning that's often easier said than accomplished, so I've unavoidably made my fair share of honest mistakes, that which anyone with half again as much brain should have been able to easily correct, and without their having to make such a big fuss. On Apr 14, 9:44 am, The Ghost In The Machine wrote: Assuming a scale height of 9 km (Google is being maddeningly unclear on the matter), I get 6.3 * 10^19 moles for the entire atmosphere. Sulfuric acid would then be 1.89 * 10^11 moles or 1.85 * 10^10 kg, again assuming the 0.0000003%. Why is it allowed for others and yourself to assume, and not for the likes of myself? The first 9 km worth of that thick and robust Venus atmosphere is sharing almost nothing to speak of. It's called cover thy butt science, whereas up unitl fairly recently they had been using the first 15 km worth, and thereby taking their revised 9 km worth of scale height is what makes their old numbers look as though they'd actually been honestly derived by way of the best available science. The true scale height of the Venus atmosphere is actually worth a little better than 150 km, and possibly worth as great as 175 km. This is far too much handwaving for my liking, admittedly, and this acid would be distributed Venus-wide, making extraction of all of it difficult. Basic laws of physics blows most of your "handwaving" out the window. Your naysayism and anti-think-tank mindset is per usual spoken like a good little Third Reich minion. There's still a little too much brown on that silly nose of your's, isn't there. Those interesting and most likely extremely acidic clouds don't hardly begin until getting well enough past the 40+ km mark (somewhat mostly haze worthy below 45 km), and there's still a good deal of a top side haze that's going past the altitude of 100 km. At 150+ km there's even a layer of what's mostly O2 to work with. By far the best part of the Venusian atmosphere has been systematically excluded or otherwise banished from what should have been the hot topic of understanding why so little of that solar IR energy gets down to the deck. At a given altitude it's roughly a 1 bar environment of what's most extensively S8 in the atmospheric realm of 50 km. The element of S8 has a SG worth of 2 g/cm3, and as you continue upward it's obviously getting even cooler (less vapor and more of S8 solids to deal with), and that ratio of elements should thereby become more worthy of becoming mostly Co2 that's clearly a less massive element than S8. Just a few km below that 50 km mark (especially if we're going by that long season of nighttime), there's a fairly robust layer of concentrated S8 to deal with. Of course h2o and S8 makes for a rather nasty acid, that's likely to being wet anywhere near or above the 50 km mark. John Ackerman offers a reasonably good interpretation of the best available science, thereby shares his honest review and subsequent analogy of what's available, and as such it's not nearly as slight or otherwise insignificant as we've been informed. There's simply more of that Venusian water to behold, of what's likely formulated within those acidic clouds and extensive zones or layer of haze, than otherwise given credit by the likes of whatever's suggested by way of our NASA and of having obtained their mostly Jewish peer review's stamp of approval. BTW; the GOOGLE/Usenet gauntlet of spermware/****ware has been running extremely hot and nasty these days, as my poor old PC keeps getting nailed to death by an extra butt-load of their nasty crapolla, as it deploys yet another tonne of their damage-control flak that's intended to foil or otherwise terminate my PC. Also notice how these infomercial spewing rusemasters seldom if ever constructively share anything that could be used against them, whereas again keeping very Jewish Third Reich need-to-know worthy. - Brad Guth |
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A required repost in order to cover just the original/proper cross-
posing. Unlike those claiming to know all there is to know (the likes of Art Deco and of his bed wetting partner Phineas T Puddleduck), usually insisting that all others are worth far less than village idiot status, whereas I simply do not know everything, and therefore I ask those pesky questions that tend to go unanswered, whereas then I have to make due with my exploratory research and deductive reasoning that's often easier said than accomplished, so I've unavoidably made my fair share of honest mistakes, that which anyone with half again as much brain should have been able to easily correct, and without their having to make such a big fuss. On Apr 14, 9:44 am, The Ghost In The Machine wrote: Assuming a scale height of 9 km (Google is being maddeningly unclear on the matter), I get 6.3 * 10^19 moles for the entire atmosphere. Sulfuric acid would then be 1.89 * 10^11 moles or 1.85 * 10^10 kg, again assuming the 0.0000003%. Why is it allowed for others and yourself to assume, and not for the likes of myself? The first 9 km worth of that thick and robust Venus atmosphere is sharing almost nothing to speak of. It's called cover thy butt science, whereas up unitl fairly recently they had been using the first 15 km worth, and thereby taking their revised 9 km worth of scale height is what makes their old numbers look as though they'd actually been honestly derived by way of the best available science. The true scale height of the Venus atmosphere is actually worth a little better than 150 km, and possibly worth as great as 175 km. This is far too much handwaving for my liking, admittedly, and this acid would be distributed Venus-wide, making extraction of all of it difficult. Basic laws of physics blows most of your "handwaving" out the window. Your naysayism and anti-think-tank mindset is per usual spoken like a good little Third Reich minion. There's still a little too much brown on that silly nose of your's, isn't there. Those interesting and most likely extremely acidic clouds don't hardly begin until getting well enough past the 40+ km mark (somewhat mostly haze worthy below 45 km), and there's still a good deal of a top side haze that's going past the altitude of 100 km. At 150+ km there's even a layer of what's mostly O2 to work with. By far the best part of the Venusian atmosphere has been systematically excluded or otherwise banished from what should have been the hot topic of understanding why so little of that solar IR energy gets down to the deck. At a given altitude it's roughly a 1 bar environment of what's most extensively S8 in the atmospheric realm of 50 km. The element of S8 has a SG worth of 2 g/cm3, and as you continue upward it's obviously getting even cooler (less vapor and more of S8 solids to deal with), and that ratio of elements should thereby become more worthy of becoming mostly Co2 that's clearly a less massive element than S8. Just a few km below that 50 km mark (especially if we're going by that long season of nighttime), there's a fairly robust layer of concentrated S8 to deal with. Of course h2o and S8 makes for a rather nasty acid, that's likely to being wet anywhere near or above the 50 km mark. John Ackerman offers a reasonably good interpretation of the best available science, thereby shares his honest review and subsequent analogy of what's available, and as such it's not nearly as slight or otherwise insignificant as we've been informed. There's simply more of that Venusian water to behold, of what's likely formulated within those acidic clouds and extensive zones or layer of haze, than otherwise given credit by the likes of whatever's suggested by way of our NASA and of having obtained their mostly Jewish peer review's stamp of approval. BTW; the GOOGLE/Usenet gauntlet of spermware/****ware has been running extremely hot and nasty these days, as my poor old PC keeps getting nailed to death by an extra butt-load of their nasty crapolla, as it deploys yet another tonne of their damage-control flak that's intended to foil or otherwise terminate my PC. Also notice how these infomercial spewing rusemasters seldom if ever constructively share anything that could be used against them, whereas again keeping very Jewish Third Reich need-to-know worthy. - Brad Guth |
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wrote in message ups.com... Unlike those claiming to know all there is to know (the likes of Art Deco and of his bed wetting partner Phineas T Puddleduck), do you have a list of who these people are? |
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In article ,
"T Wake" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Unlike those claiming to know all there is to know (the likes of Art Deco and of his bed wetting partner Phineas T Puddleduck), do you have a list of who these people are? I have achieved omniscience!! -- Got mail? I did ;-) Three and counting. Got proof? Not yet, still waiting. |
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