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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:38:45 -0600, "Carl R. Osterwald" wrote:

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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 05:13:37 GMT, "Bookman"
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Paranoid about Alex hua.

Nah. Why do you object to being called Alexa?

I don't, but it sure busts you in the chops, doesn't it.

Nope. But you sure get ****y when you are
called 'Alexa', Alexa. Why is that?

Hey you're the one who is wrongfully calling me Alexa!
And you look like a complete ass for doing so but we expect nothing less
from people like you.

Now what about addressing the facts that you spend so much time trying to
avoid:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ney-drugs.html

Halliburton Corporation's Brown and Root is one of the major components of

[bigsnip]

Well I'm convinced. This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that
Halliburton and DoE are hiding an alien disk at Groom Lake.


You spelled Lockheed wrong.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 04:03:03 GMT, * wrote:

[..]

Hey you're the one who is wrongfully calling me Alexa!
And you look like a complete ass for doing so but we expect nothing less
from people like you.

Now what about addressing the facts that you spend so much time trying to
avoid:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ney-drugs.html

Halliburton Corporation's Brown and Root is one of the major components of

[bigsnip]

Well I'm convinced. This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that
Halliburton and DoE are hiding an alien disk at Groom Lake.


You spelled Lockheed wrong.

Whore on Drugs
by George Szamuely
New York Press
8/29/00

Bill Clinton's one-day visit to Colombia this week encapsulates perfectly
his presidency: a pointless photo-op to sell a fraudulent bill of goods. He
is there ostensibly to express his confidence in Colombia's President Andres
Pastrana, whose fight against the narco-traffickers is being underwritten by
the United States to the tune of $1.3 billion. However, the idea of Colombia
getting out of the drug business is so patently absurd that not even
Clinton's coterie of obsequious toadies is buying this one. In the first
place, the Colombian military – to be armed and trained by the U.S. – are
the last people on Earth to allow a lucrative enterprise like narcotics slip
through their fingers.

In November 1998, a few weeks after Pastrana's visit to Washington to assure
Americans of his firm resolve to fight the scourge of drugs, the head of the
Colombian air force had to resign. The resignation followed the discovery of
over 1600 pounds of cocaine aboard a military transport plane that had just
arrived in Fort Lauderdale from Bogota. "This incident need have no effect
whatsoever on our views of President Pastrana's determination to work with
us to fight the export of drugs from Colombia," piped up little Jamie Rubin
of the State Dept. Of course not. Any more than the recent conviction of the
former commander of U.S. Army anti-drug advisers in Colombia, Col. James
Hiett, on charges of covering up his wife's drug smuggling, need have any
effect on our views of the seriousness of the U.S. commitment to wage war on
drugs.

The US. can spray with herbicides every field from the Gulf of Mexico to
Antarctica. But someone else will always be there to provide Americans with
their drug fix. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Myanmar – the list of candidates is
long.

No, the latest round in America's melodramatic "war on drugs" has nothing
whatsoever to do with drugs. It is about corporations with substantial
investments in Colombia lobbying the U.S. government to step in and take
over the country on their behalf. In Pastrana they have found a happily
compliant Colombian leader. Colombia is burdened with a large international
debt, which it must pay off with its oil exports. Pastrana has signed on to
the usual IMF austerity program of public spending cuts and devaluation. The
result has been misery, strikes and, naturally, a shot in the arm for the
narcotics industry. Colombia's economy shrank 4.5 percent in 1999. Earlier
this month, tanks and troops were called out to the streets of Bogota as
700,000 state workers staged a 24-hour strike protesting government
austerity measures.

But how did drugs get into the picture? It was the corporations that came up
with this wheeze. Lockheed Martin approached the Clinton administration with
a poll it had commissioned, showing a majority of the public believing drug
use to be on the rise, with Democrats, not Republicans, being held
responsible. Therefore, Democrats should do something dramatic. Lockheed
Martin's day job, incidentally, includes making aircraft for use in military
operations against drug smugglers. One of the most ardent advocates of
American military involvement in Colombia was the U.S.-Colombia Business
Partnership – which includes such corporations as Occidental, Enron, BP
Amoco and Colgate-Palmolive. Drugs are "disruptive of any normal business
relationship," explained Lawrence Meriage, Occidental's vice president for
public affairs. But what was really troubling him was the $100 million
Occidental has lost as a result of the repeated rebel assaults on the Limon
Covenas pipeline by various armed groups. Every year, the oil companies are
forced to shell out a "war tax," which they pay directly to the Colombian
army and police for their protection.

Earlier this month, Occidental suspended oil production and declared force
majeure at Colombia's second largest oil field because of repeated bombing
of the pipeline. In 1999 alone it had allegedly been attacked 79 times.
Clearly, they would be saving themselves a lot of money if the U.S.
government took over protecting the pipelines.

The Plan Colombia, allegedly a joint product of the U.S. and Colombian
governments, reads very much as if it were conceived and written in
Washington. It is full of the usual "market democracy" or "do what we tell
you or else" bromides: "Free trade agreements that attract foreign and
domestic investment"; "a fiscal and financial strategy that includes tough
austerity and adjustment measures"; "state-owned companies and banks are to
be privatized"; "foreign investment" will be "crucial in modernizing the
industrial backbone of the country"; "steps" must be taken "to promote a
favorable environment for electronic trade." The Plan gets hilarious when it
describes Colombia's economic plight. After first commending the country for
opening up "its traditionally closed economy," the author notes sorrowfully
that "production of cereals, such as wheat, corn, and barley…were shown to
be noncompetitive in world markets. The result was the loss of 700,000
hectares of agricultural production to imports during the decade, which in
turn proved to be a critical blow to employment in the rural areas where
Colombia's conflict is mainly staged."

Yes, but why had Colombia's traditional agriculture become so
"noncompetitive"? Could it possibly have something to do with the explosion
of subsidies afforded to U.S. farmers in recent years?

U.S. Special Forces trainers have already arrived in Colombia. Congress
conditioned the $1.3 billion package on the Colombian government's ability
to curb human rights abuses by its armed forces. Pastrana was made to
promise that military personnel accused of human rights abuses would be
brought to justice in the country's civilian courts. Of all the demands made
on his government, this is the one it will least likely be held to.

The U.S. has too much invested in Colombia to waste time chasing up "bad
apples." Even the recent murder of six schoolchildren by Colombian soldiers
did nothing to dampen Washington's enthusiasm for the venture. As always,
the wealth of the few trumps the welfare of the many.

http://www.antiwar.com/rep/szamuely/szamuely51.html

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:14:07 GMT, * wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 05:13:37 GMT, "Bookman"
wrote:


Paranoid about Alex hua.

Nah. Why do you object to being called Alexa?

I don't, but it sure busts you in the chops, doesn't it.

Nope. But you sure get ****y when you are
called 'Alexa', Alexa. Why is that?

Hey you're the one who is wrongfully calling me Alexa!
And you look like a complete ass for doing so but we expect nothing less
from people like you.

Now what about addressing the facts that you spend so much time trying to
avoid:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ney-drugs.html

Halliburton Corporation's Brown and Root is one of the major components of


THE BUSH-CHENEY DRUG EMPIRE

[Lead story in the October 24, 2000 issue of "From The Wilderness"]

by
Michael C. Ruppert


Ruppert is a k00k, too.
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:12:51 -0800, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)"
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:14:07 GMT, * wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 05:13:37 GMT, "Bookman"
wrote:


Paranoid about Alex hua.

Nah. Why do you object to being called Alexa?

I don't, but it sure busts you in the chops, doesn't it.

Nope. But you sure get ****y when you are
called 'Alexa', Alexa. Why is that?

Hey you're the one who is wrongfully calling me Alexa!
And you look like a complete ass for doing so but we expect nothing less
from people like you.

Now what about addressing the facts that you spend so much time trying to
avoid:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ney-drugs.html

Halliburton Corporation's Brown and Root is one of the major components of


THE BUSH-CHENEY DRUG EMPIRE

[Lead story in the October 24, 2000 issue of "From The Wilderness"]

by
Michael C. Ruppert


Ruppert is a k00k, too.

Like I said, kook belief is faith based, not fact based.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39397c4f5737.htm

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 04:42:05 GMT, * wrote in
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Like I said, kook belief is faith based, not fact based.

Whatever.
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:04:35 -0600, "Carl R. Osterwald" wrote:

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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:12:51 -0800, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)"
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:14:07 GMT, * wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 05:13:37 GMT, "Bookman"
wrote:


Paranoid about Alex hua.

Nah. Why do you object to being called Alexa?

I don't, but it sure busts you in the chops, doesn't it.

Nope. But you sure get ****y when you are
called 'Alexa', Alexa. Why is that?

Hey you're the one who is wrongfully calling me Alexa!
And you look like a complete ass for doing so but we expect nothing less
from people like you.

Now what about addressing the facts that you spend so much time trying to
avoid:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ney-drugs.html

Halliburton Corporation's Brown and Root is one of the major components of


THE BUSH-CHENEY DRUG EMPIRE

[Lead story in the October 24, 2000 issue of "From The Wilderness"]

by
Michael C. Ruppert


Ruppert is a k00k, too.

Like I said, kook belief is faith based, not fact based.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!

Just when I think you can't poast anything else new, you go and poast
gem such as this!

And this:

Lockheed's Department of Energy is hiding an alien saucer at Groom Lake
which the aliens gave the world at Holloman AFB in 1973.

And Lockheed is also hiding a lot of documents at Groom Lake which relate to
this:

The Contras, Cocaine, and Covert Operations

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39397c4f5737.htm

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:01:36 -0600, "Carl R. Osterwald" wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

[auk and afa-b restored]

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:04:35 -0600, "Carl R. Osterwald" wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:12:51 -0800, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)"
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:14:07 GMT, * wrote in
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:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 05:13:37 GMT, "Bookman"
wrote:


Paranoid about Alex hua.

Nah. Why do you object to being called Alexa?

I don't, but it sure busts you in the chops, doesn't it.

Nope. But you sure get ****y when you are
called 'Alexa', Alexa. Why is that?

Hey you're the one who is wrongfully calling me Alexa!
And you look like a complete ass for doing so but we expect nothing less
from people like you.

Now what about addressing the facts that you spend so much time trying to
avoid:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ney-drugs.html

Halliburton Corporation's Brown and Root is one of the major components
of


THE BUSH-CHENEY DRUG EMPIRE

[Lead story in the October 24, 2000 issue of "From The Wilderness"]

by
Michael C. Ruppert


Ruppert is a k00k, too.

Like I said, kook belief is faith based, not fact based.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!

Just when I think you can't poast anything else new, you go and poast
gem such as this!

And this:

Lockheed's Department of Energy is hiding an alien saucer at Groom Lake
which the aliens gave the world at Holloman AFB in 1973.

And Lockheed is also hiding a lot of documents at Groom Lake which relate to
this:

The Contras, Cocaine, and Covert Operations

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39397c4f5737.htm


I'm sorry, but this is all wrong. I've got all these documents stored
in my basement.

Board of Directors

Board of Directors
Lockheed Martin
April 2003 - April 2004

E. C. "Pete" Aldridge, Jr.
Director Since June 2003

Special Assistant to the Secretary of Defense since May 2003. Retired from
government service in May 2003 after serving as Under Secretary of Defense
(Acquisition, Technology and Logistics) since May 2001. President and Chief
Executive Officer of The Aerospace Corporation from March 1992 - May 2001;
President, McDonnell Douglas Electronic Systems Company from December 1988 -
March 1992; Secretary of the Air Force from June 1986 - December 1988.

Nolan D. Archibald
Director since April 2002

Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of The Black & Decker
Corporation since 1986, President of The Black & Decker Corporation since
1985, and Chief Operating Officer of The Black & Decker Corporation from
1985 to 1986. Held various management positions at Beatrice Companies, Inc.,
from 1977 to 1985, including Senior Vice President and President of the
Consumer & Commercial Products Group. Director of The Black & Decker
Corporation and Brunswick Corporation.

Norman R. Augustine
Director since March 1995

Lecturer with the rank of Professor, Department of Mechanical and Aerospace
Engineering, School of Engineering and Applied Science, Princeton
University, from September 1997 until July 1999; Chairman of Lockheed Martin
from January 1997 until retirement as Chairman in April 1998, Chief
Executive Officer of Lockheed Martin from January 1996 until retirement in
August 1997, Vice Chairman of Lockheed Martin from April 1996 through
December 1996, President of Lockheed Martin from March 1995 to June 1996;
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Martin Marietta Corporation ("Martin
Marietta") from April 1988 to March 1995, director of Martin Marietta from
1986 to 1995; director of The Black & Decker Corporation, ConocoPhillips and
The Procter & Gamble Company.

Marcus C. Bennett
Director since March 1995

Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Lockheed Martin from
July 1996 until his retirement in January 1999, Senior Vice President and
Chief Financial Officer of Lockheed Martin from March 1995 to July 1996;
Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Martin Marietta from 1988 to
1995; director of Martin Marietta from 1993 to 1995; director of Carpenter
Technology, Inc. from 1998 to 2001 and director of Martin Marietta
Materials, Inc.

Vance D. Coffman,
Chairman
Director since January 1996

Chairman of Lockheed Martin since April 1998, Chief Executive Officer of
Lockheed Martin since August 1997, President of Lockheed Martin from October
1999 until April 2000 and from June 1996 until August 1997, Vice Chairman of
Lockheed Martin from August 1997 to April 1998, Chief Operating Officer of
Lockheed Martin from January 1996 until August 1997, Executive Vice
President of Lockheed Martin from January to June 1996, President and Chief
Operating Officer of Lockheed Martin Space & Strategic Missiles Sector from
March 1995 to December 1995; Executive Vice President of Lockheed from 1992
to 1995, and President of Lockheed Space Systems Division from 1988 to 1992;
director of Bristol-Myers Squibb Company and 3M Company.

Gwendolyn S. King
Director since March 1995

President of Podium Prose, a Washington, D.C. speaker's bureau and
speechwriting service. Senior Vice President of Corporate and Public Affairs
of PECO Energy Company (formerly Philadelphia Electric Company) from October
1992 until her retirement in February 1998; Commissioner of the Social
Security Administration from August 1989 to September 1992; director of
Martin Marietta from 1992 to 1995; director of Pharmacia Corporation,
Monsanto Company, Marsh and McLennan Companies, Inc. and Countrywide
Financial Corporation.

Douglas H. McCorkindale
Director since April 2001

Chairman of Gannett Co., Inc. ("Gannett") since February 1, 2001, Chief
Executive Officer of Gannett since June 1, 2000, President of Gannett since
1997, Vice Chairman of Gannett from 1984 to January 31, 2001, Chief
Financial Officer of Gannett from 1979 to 1997, Chief Administrative Officer
of Gannett from 1985 to 1997; director of Gannett, Continental Airlines,
Inc. and a director or trustee of a number of investment funds in the family
of Prudential Mutual Funds.

Eugene F. Murphy
Director since March 1995

Vice Chairman and Executive Officer of General Electric Company from
September 1997 to July 1999, President and Chief Executive Officer of GE
Aircraft Engines from 1993 to September 1997, President and Chief Executive
Officer of GE Aerospace from 1992 to 1993, Senior Vice President of GE
Communications & Services from 1986 to 1992; director of Martin Marietta
from 1993 to 1995; director of BellSouth Corporation; Chairman, St. Francis
Hospital; member of President Reagan's National Security Telecommunications
Advisory Committee; former Chairman and permanent member of the Board of
Directors of the Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association.

Joseph W. Ralston
Director since April 2003

Vice Chairman of the Cohen Group, Washington, D.C. since March 2003. Retired
from active duty on March 1, 2003. Commander, U.S. European Command and
Supreme Allied Commander Europe, NATO, Mons, Belgium from May 2000 until
January 2003. Vice Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Washington, D.C. from
March 1996 - April 2000; since 1965, served in operational command at
squadron, wing, numbered air force and major command, as well as various
staff and management positions at every level of the Air Force.

Frank Savage
Director since March 1995

Chief Executive Officer of Savage Holdings LLC since August 2001; Chairman
of Alliance Capital Management International, a division of Alliance Capital
Management LP, an investment management company from 1993 to July 31, 2001;
Chairman of the Board of Alliance Corporate Finance Group, Inc. since 1993;
Senior Vice President of The Equitable Life Assurance Society of the United
States from 1987 to 1996; Chairman of the Board of Equitable Capital
Management Corporation from 1992 to 1993, Vice Chairman of the Board of
Equitable Capital Management Corporation from 1986 to 1992; director of
Alliance Capital Management L.P., Qualcomm Inc.; trustee of Johns Hopkins
University and Chairman of the Board of Trustees of Howard University;
director of Lockheed from 1990 to 1995; director of Enron Corporation from
1999 to 2002; director of the Institute of International Education and the
New York Philharmonic; former U.S. Presidential appointee to the Board of
Directors of U.S. Synthetic Fuels Corporation.

Anne Stevens
Director since September 2002

Vice President, North America Vehicle Operations of Ford Motor Company since
August 2001, Vice President, North America Assembly Operations of Ford Motor
Company from April 2001 to August 2001. Held various management positions at
Ford Motor Company from 1990 up to the present, including executive director
in Vehicle Operations in North America. Held various engineering,
manufacturing and marketing positions at Exxon Chemical Co. before joining
Ford. Director of the UAW Family Service & Learning Center, trustee of
Drexel University, and an advisory board member of a graduate business
program at Northwestern University.

Robert J. Stevens
Director since October 2000

President and Chief Operating Officer of Lockheed Martin since October 23,
2000, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Lockheed
Martin from October 1999 to March 2001, Vice President of Strategic
Development of Lockheed Martin from November 1998 to October 1999; President
and Chief Operating Officer of the former Lockheed Martin Energy and
Environment Sector from January 1998 to June 1999; President of Lockheed
Martin Air Traffic Management Division from June 1996 through January 1998;
Executive Vice President and Senior Vice President and Chief Financial
Officer of Air Traffic Management from December 1993 to May 1996; and
General Manager of Loral Systems Manufacturing Company from 1987 to 1993;
and director of Monsanto Company.

James R. Ukropina
Director since March 1995

Chief Executive Officer, Directions, LLC and Of Counsel, O'Melveny & Myers
LLP (Partner from 1992 - 2000); Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive
Officer of Pacific Enterprises from 1989 to 1991; director of Lockheed from
1988 to 1995; director of Pacific Life Insurance Company, Central Natural
Resources Inc., Trust Company of the West, the W. M. Keck Foundation and
Indymac Bancorp, Inc.

Douglas C. Yearley
Director since March 1995

Chairman Emeritus of the Board of Phelps Dodge Corporation ("Phelps Dodge"),
Chairman of the Board of Phelps Dodge from 1989 until his retirement in May
2000 and Chief Executive Officer of Phelps Dodge from 1989 to 1999,
President of Phelps Dodge from 1991 to 1997, Executive Vice President of
Phelps Dodge from 1987 to 1989, President of Phelps Dodge Industries, a
division of Phelps Dodge, from 1988 to 1990, Senior Vice President of Phelps
Dodge from 1982 to 1986; director of Lockheed from 1990 to 1995, J.P. Morgan
& Co. Incorporated, Morgan Guaranty Trust Company of New York from 1993 to
2000, Southern Peru Copper Corporation from 1991 to 2000, USX Corporation
from 1992-2001, and United States Steel Corporation and Marathon Oil
Corporation beginning in 2002. Also member of the National Council of the
World Wildlife Fund and graduate member of The Business Council.