Jeff Bezos' secretive rocket company just revealed its plans to towerover SpaceX

"The largest of the two new rockets, called the "New Glenn 3-stage," is an
enormous 23 feet in diameter (about half the length of a school bus), 313 feet
tall (close to the height of the Apollo moon rockets), and will spew out 3.85
million pounds of thrust — about half as powerful as NASA's Saturn V launcher.

Unlike the Saturn V, however, Blue Origin plans to build on its rocket-recycling
experience and reuse the giant first-stage booster of each launcher — saving
untold cash over multiple launches, since rocket boosters are normally trashed in
the ocean."


"Named in honor of John Glenn, the first American to orbit Earth, New Glenn is 23
feet in diameter and lifts off with 3.85 million pounds of thrust from seven BE-4
engines. Burning liquefied natural gas and liquid oxygen, these are the same BE-4
engines that will power United Launch Alliance's new Vulcan rocket."

See:

http://www.techinsider.io/blue-origi...rockets-2016-9

wrote:
"The largest of the two new rockets, called the "New Glenn 3-stage," is an
enormous 23 feet in diameter (about half the length of a school bus), 313 feet
tall (close to the height of the Apollo moon rockets), and will spew out 3.85
million pounds of thrust — about half as powerful as NASA's Saturn V launcher.

Size in feet and weight in pounds? Is it designed in the 19th century?

Rob wrote:
Size in feet and weight in pounds? Is it designed in the 19th
century?

http://www.space.com/34034-blue-orig...es-people.html

Includes both sets of units. I'm guessing the actual measurements are
SI and the feet and pounds are just for the US readers.

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Rob wrote:

wrote:

"The largest of the two new rockets, called the "New Glenn 3-stage," is an
enormous 23 feet in diameter (about half the length of a school bus), 313 feet
tall (close to the height of the Apollo moon rockets), and will spew out 3.85
million pounds of thrust — about half as powerful as NASA's Saturn V launcher.

Size in feet and weight in pounds? Is it designed in the 19th century?


It's designed someplace that's actually capable of doing it. Real
aeronautical engineers work in feet, pounds, and Rankine.


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"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson

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says...

Rob wrote:

wrote:

"The largest of the two new rockets, called the "New Glenn 3-stage," is an
enormous 23 feet in diameter (about half the length of a school bus), 313 feet
tall (close to the height of the Apollo moon rockets), and will spew out 3.85
million pounds of thrust ? about half as powerful as NASA's Saturn V launcher.

Size in feet and weight in pounds? Is it designed in the 19th century?


It's designed someplace that's actually capable of doing it. Real
aeronautical engineers work in feet, pounds, and Rankine.

LOL. I'll take working in SI units over imperial units any day.

Jeff
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On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 10:14:45 PM UTC+12, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,
says...

Rob wrote:

wrote:

"The largest of the two new rockets, called the "New Glenn 3-stage," is an
enormous 23 feet in diameter (about half the length of a school bus), 313 feet
tall (close to the height of the Apollo moon rockets), and will spew out 3.85
million pounds of thrust ? about half as powerful as NASA's Saturn V launcher.

Size in feet and weight in pounds? Is it designed in the 19th century?


It's designed someplace that's actually capable of doing it. Real
aeronautical engineers work in feet, pounds, and Rankine.

LOL. I'll take working in SI units over imperial units any day.

Jeff
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SI Rules!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrriKcwvlY

William Mook wrote:

On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 10:14:45 PM UTC+12, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,
says...

Rob wrote:

wrote:

"The largest of the two new rockets, called the "New Glenn 3-stage," is an
enormous 23 feet in diameter (about half the length of a school bus), 313 feet
tall (close to the height of the Apollo moon rockets), and will spew out 3.85
million pounds of thrust ? about half as powerful as NASA's Saturn V launcher.

Size in feet and weight in pounds? Is it designed in the 19th century?


It's designed someplace that's actually capable of doing it. Real
aeronautical engineers work in feet, pounds, and Rankine.

LOL. I'll take working in SI units over imperial units any day.

Jeff
--
All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone.
These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends,
employer, or any organization that I am a member of.

SI Rules!


Then you should avoid airplanes entirely. Fuel is measured in pounds,
altitude is measured in feet, and distance is measured in nautical
miles. The only place that did it differently was the old Soviet
Bloc.


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"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson

On 12 Sep 2016 17:16:53 GMT, Rob wrote:

wrote:
"The largest of the two new rockets, called the "New Glenn 3-stage," is an
enormous 23 feet in diameter (about half the length of a school bus), 313 feet
tall (close to the height of the Apollo moon rockets), and will spew out 3.85
million pounds of thrust — about half as powerful as NASA's Saturn V launcher.

Size in feet and weight in pounds? Is it designed in the 19th century?

It is designed in the 21st, in a nation where SpaceX and Blue Origin
are about to make every other space launch provider in the world very,
very obsolete.

The paradigm shift accelerates.

Now with at least *two* Super Heavy (50+ tons to LEO) commercial
launch vehicles planned for entry into service after 2020, the comsat
industry is going to start working on much, much bigger satellites.
And Ariane 6/Angara/Vulcan/GSLV will be left behind.

Brian

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"The largest of the two new rockets, called the "New Glenn 3-stage," is an
enormous 23 feet in diameter (about half the length of a school bus), 313 feet
tall (close to the height of the Apollo moon rockets), and will spew out 3.85
million pounds of thrust — about half as powerful as NASA's Saturn V launcher.


And about 70% as powerful as Falcon Heavy, which will be available
before it is.


Unlike the Saturn V, however, Blue Origin plans to build on its rocket-recycling
experience and reuse the giant first-stage booster of each launcher — saving
untold cash over multiple launches, since rocket boosters are normally trashed in
the ocean."


We'll see how long it takes them to successfully land one after they
actually get them built.


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man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
--George Bernard Shaw

On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:37:57 -0700, Fred J. McCall
wrote:

wrote:

"The largest of the two new rockets, called the "New Glenn 3-stage," is an
enormous 23 feet in diameter (about half the length of a school bus), 313 feet
tall (close to the height of the Apollo moon rockets), and will spew out 3.85
million pounds of thrust — about half as powerful as NASA's Saturn V launcher.


And about 70% as powerful as Falcon Heavy, which will be available
before it is.

Yes, but maybe by not all that much time. I think FH just took another
year's hit due to the Amos-6 disaster. And SpaceX has a lot on their
plate with Commercial Crew and a big backlog of Falcon 9FT payloads
still waiting their turn to fly. I can easily see FH being
backburnered to 2018-19.

Frankly, given Musk's hints about BFR in 2021 or so and Falcon 9FT
getting ever more powerful, I wouldn't be shocked if he reaches the
conclusion that FH is a dead end and abandons it.

We'll see how long it takes them to successfully land one after they
actually get them built.

Flight 1 almost certainly will be a short Stage 1-only hop over to
LZ-1 or wherever their landing site is, with progressively longer
flights out to the barge and eventually "out and back", then moving on
to flights with Stage 2. Really, how else can he test the thing? It is
being built at KSC and launched at CCAFS and is too big to overland to
Van Horn. So no Grasshopper equivalent operations seem possible.

Brian