President Obama given Nobel Peace Prize

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:06:45 -0400, "Sid9" wrote:

I suspect a lot has to do with the end of bush,jr/ Cheney's
belligerence and arrogance.

Actually, in this case I think what is good for Pres. Obama is good
for the United States. But you have to wonder, what did he do in 11
days to bring peace to the world? It seems very much like Pres. Obama
could have sat in the Oval Office since January 20 doing nothing but
reading the Chicago Tribune and he still would have won the Nobel.
Pres. Roosevelt had to bring peace between Japan and Russia to win his
Nobel. Pres. Carter had to bring peace between Israel and Egypt, and
still wait 20 years for his Nobel, but Pres. Obama gets one just for
showing up to work.

That sort of cheapens the Nobel, doesn't it?

Brian

"Brian Thorn" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:06:45 -0400, "Sid9"
wrote:

I suspect a lot has to do with the end of bush,jr/ Cheney's
belligerence and arrogance.

Actually, in this case I think what is good for Pres. Obama is good
for the United States. But you have to wonder, what did he do in 11
days to bring peace to the world? It seems very much like Pres.
Obama
could have sat in the Oval Office since January 20 doing nothing but
reading the Chicago Tribune and he still would have won the Nobel.
Pres. Roosevelt had to bring peace between Japan and Russia to win
his
Nobel. Pres. Carter had to bring peace between Israel and Egypt, and
still wait 20 years for his Nobel, but Pres. Obama gets one just for
showing up to work.

That sort of cheapens the Nobel, doesn't it?

Brian
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That's some more sour grapes.

President Obama and the United States was honored.

Respect for America has been restored with Obama's ascendency to the
presidency.

The world is delighted that bush,jr/Cheney and their belligerence and
their arrogance are GONE.

Have you noticed...there's virtually no rocket fire into Israel
recently?
That we are talk to N Korea and they have agreed to send their nuclear
fuel to Russia to be processed into fuel rod?.
That we are talking to Iran?
That our allies support us in these endeavors?
That China and Russia have been participants instead of adversaries?

Maybe he should get two Nobel peace prizes!

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:56:11 -0400, "Sid9" wrote:

That's some more sour grapes.

You do understand I voted for Obama, right? I'm far from his biggest
fan, but I thought he was a lot better than McCain (who seemed totally
out of it in the last weeks of the campaign, so what would have
happened had he won the Presidency... and the more I see of Palin the
more I hate her.)

The world is delighted that bush,jr/Cheney and their belligerence and
their arrogance are GONE.

Okay. And this is sufficient to give Pres. Obama a Nobel? I ask you
again, don't you think that cheapens the Nobel Peace Prize... even a
little?

Have you noticed...there's virtually no rocket fire into Israel
recently?

Excellent. But how is this Obama's accomplishment? Does he have a
peaceful aura or something that makes Palestinians not want their
homeland back, or Israelis not want to slaughter Palestinians anymore?
Mr. Obama is President, not God (although some of his press makes it
hard to tell the distinction.)

That we are talk to N Korea and they have agreed to send their nuclear
fuel to Russia to be processed into fuel rod?.

Caution: They "agreed" to lots of things with both Presidents Clinton
and Bush, too. They actually kept exactly none of those promises.

That we are talking to Iran?

Meanwhile, Iran has now test-fired missiles capable of reaching
Europe, and unveiled another weapons-grade nuke plant. Yeah, I feel
the peace...

That our allies support us in these endeavors?

For the moment. As soon as they realize Pres. Obama is not closing
Guantanomo, is not pulling our troops out of Iraq, and is sending
10,000 more troops to Afghanistan, they'll be demanding a recall of
that Nobel.

Talk is cheap. The world did not suddenly become safe and peaceful at
12:00 on January 20, 2009.

That China and Russia have been participants instead of adversaries?

Such as? The Russians always wanted us to play nice with Iran (while
they sold Iran the technology to build rockets and nukes.) Now that
Pres. Obama is doing what the Russians want, they're happy (shocked,
shocked I am!). Oh yeah, I feel safe. Let's hope Russia doesn't want
us to give them Alaska back, too. Okay, maybe they can have it if they
take Palin with it.

China, as usual, is participating in nothing outside China.

Maybe he should get two Nobel peace prizes!

Roosevelt: Brokered peace between Russia and Japan.
Wilson: Established the League of Nations.
Carter: Brokered peace between Israel and Egypt.
Obama: ???

Take a look at all the things Martti Ahtisaari had done to win last
year's Nobel Peace Prize. What has Pres. Obama actually done?

Brian

Orval Fairbairn wrote:
They have put the Nobel Peace Prize on a par with the Knight's Cross of
the Sultan of Poobah.

Sir, I resent that.
I knew the Knights Of Poobah, and Obama is no Knight Of Poobah.
For one thing, he never wears a tortoise shell for a helmet, like a true
KOP.

Pat

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"Sid9" wrote:

"Brian Thorn" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:06:45 -0400, "Sid9"
wrote:

I suspect a lot has to do with the end of bush,jr/ Cheney's
belligerence and arrogance.

Actually, in this case I think what is good for Pres. Obama is good
for the United States. But you have to wonder, what did he do in 11
days to bring peace to the world? It seems very much like Pres.
Obama
could have sat in the Oval Office since January 20 doing nothing but
reading the Chicago Tribune and he still would have won the Nobel.
Pres. Roosevelt had to bring peace between Japan and Russia to win
his
Nobel. Pres. Carter had to bring peace between Israel and Egypt, and
still wait 20 years for his Nobel, but Pres. Obama gets one just for
showing up to work.

That sort of cheapens the Nobel, doesn't it?

Brian
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.
.
That's some more sour grapes.

President Obama and the United States was honored.

Respect for America has been restored with Obama's ascendency to the
presidency.

The world is delighted that bush,jr/Cheney and their belligerence and
their arrogance are GONE.

.... replaced by obama and the Democrat Congress' arrogance on domestic
issues ("stimulus," "cap & Trade," "health care reform," etc.)


Have you noticed...there's virtually no rocket fire into Israel
recently?
That we are talk to N Korea and they have agreed to send their nuclear
fuel to Russia to be processed into fuel rod?.

It seems that No. Korea made similar promises to both Clinton and Bush.

That we are talking to Iran?

Talk is cheap. Meanwhile, the centrifuges just keep on spinning.

That our allies support us in these endeavors?

They are willing to talk, too. Where is their action?

That China and Russia have been participants instead of adversaries?

That issue is still open. China doesn't want our dollars anymore -- they
figure that BO will radically cheapen the dollar, leaving them with a
lot of devalued dollars.

Maybe he should get two Nobel peace prizes!

How about Nobel Peace prizes to DESERVING individuals? Like:

Irena Sendler
There recently was a death of a 98 year-old lady named Irena. During
WWII, Irena, got permission to work in the Warsaw Ghetto, as a
Plumbing/Sewer specialist. She had an 'ulterior motive' ... She KNEW
what the Nazi's plans were for the Jews, (being German.) Irena smuggled
infants out in the bottom of the tool box she carried and she carried in
the back of her truck a burlap sack, (for larger kids..) She also had a
dog in the back that she trained to bark when the Nazi soldiers let her
in and out of the ghetto. The soldiers of course wanted nothing to do
with the dog and the barking covered the kids/infants noises.. During
her time of doing this, she managed to smuggle out and save 2500
kids/infants. She was caught, and the Nazi's broke both her legs, arms
and beat her severely. Irena kept a record of the names of all the kids
she smuggled out and kept them in a glass jar, buried under a tree in
her back yard. After the war, she tried to locate any parents that may
have survived it and reunited the family. Most had been gassed. Those
kids she helped got placed into foster family homes or adopted.

When she was nominated, Al Gore got the Peace prize for making an
infomercial on "global warming."

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Pat Flannery wrote:

Orval Fairbairn wrote:
They have put the Nobel Peace Prize on a par with the Knight's Cross of
the Sultan of Poobah.

Sir, I resent that.
I knew the Knights Of Poobah, and Obama is no Knight Of Poobah.
For one thing, he never wears a tortoise shell for a helmet, like a true
KOP.

Pat

.... not even in private?? ;)

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Brian Thorn wrote:
But you have to wonder, what did he do in 11
days to bring peace to the world? It seems very much like Pres. Obama
could have sat in the Oval Office since January 20 doing nothing but
reading the Chicago Tribune and he still would have won the Nobel.

Considering the quality of some of the writing in The Chicago Tribune
these days, doing that probably does deserve a major award of some kind.

Pres. Roosevelt had to bring peace between Japan and Russia to win his
Nobel.

"Agree to this peace treaty, or I will beat both of you to death with my
big stick."

Pres. Carter had to bring peace between Israel and Egypt,

"Agree to this peace treaty, or I will stop building houses for the poor."

Carter's approach to things always was counter-intuitive.
He knew that if he kept doing good deeds, eventually the Nobel Peace
Prize Committee would feel guilty enough about the situation that he
would get it, just like Susan Lucci and that Daytime Emmy. :-)

Pat

Sid9 wrote:
That we are talking to Iran?
That our allies support us in these endeavors?

Yeah, Israel thinks that is a _great_ idea.
"Any day now Mahmoud...any day now...ZOOM! BOOM! OFF TO THE MOON!"


Pat

Brian Thorn wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:06:45 -0400, "Sid9" wrote:

I suspect a lot has to do with the end of bush,jr/ Cheney's
belligerence and arrogance.

Actually, in this case I think what is good for Pres. Obama is good
for the United States. But you have to wonder, what did he do in 11
days to bring peace to the world? It seems very much like Pres. Obama
could have sat in the Oval Office since January 20 doing nothing but
reading the Chicago Tribune and he still would have won the Nobel.
Pres. Roosevelt had to bring peace between Japan and Russia to win his
Nobel. Pres. Carter had to bring peace between Israel and Egypt, and
still wait 20 years for his Nobel, but Pres. Obama gets one just for
showing up to work.

That sort of cheapens the Nobel, doesn't it?

The prize was dirt cheap after Ghandi and Meitner failed to receive it.


Brian

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Sylvia Else wrote:
J0nathan wrote:
Truth is always stranger than fiction.


The nobel peace prize is, and always has been, higly political. It should be
abolished. Then they could give more prize money to the winners in other
areas.
Actually, I wish they would politicize the science prizes too.

The have the power to wield, so they should use it.


Kinda looks like that's what they're doing.

Good for them, it's about time.