Moon’s largest dark spot may be an impact crater

On Nov 2, 2:31*pm, palsing wrote:
On Friday, November 2, 2012 6:25:56 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...0994466250_431....

The astronaut can choose to walk to a position where he doesn't have

to look at the Earth insofar as the moon underneath him doesn't

spin...

... doesn't spin too much, with respect to the earth..

He cannot avoid looking at the Sun as the lunar orbit of the

Earth brings the Sun into position once a month whatever side he

chooses to stand...

Whatever do you mean by *the lunar orbit of the Earth*? If you could only think about it for a minute you would understand that the moon clearly rotates with respect to both the sun and the fixed stars, otherwise neither would rise and set from the moon's surface.

Who,in God's name, wants to discuss things like these

when there is so much to deal with and specifically the lunar inputs

into the tides which certainly indicate an electromagnetic component

between the Earth and the Sun and the moon and the Earth as the tides

are most sensitive to planetary dynamics.

Tell me, how does the moon's presence indicate an electromagnetic component between the Earth and the Sun?

The damage is not done by your weakness,it is done by those who stand

off and then try to correct things in a poor way and without any

transparency and this will happen with this topic as well.

Fortunately, there is no damage done by your own weaknesses, either, because it is apparent to almost everyone that you are mostly wrong just about every time you open your mouth.

Here, think about this for a while...

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...341812482_1052...

To bundle spacial distance with an evolutionary timeline is as
heartbreaking as a spinning moon ,as though common sense is turned
inside out and the imagination which was once a tool of creativity is
now a weapon all on its own.You don't mind that you can't match one 24
hour day with one rotation of the Earth or ask what I mean by a lunar
orbital circuit of the Earth with a strange honesty nor make sense of
the images of distant Uranus among many other things but you have
begun to speak for the rest ,even those who thought it best to remain
in the background.

I cannot even imagine what it would take for a person to go outside
tonight and look at an almost full moon,a lunar orbital feature,and
conclude that it also spins once as it moves around the Earth - you
and everyone else can and that means astronomy is no longer practiced
in any shape or form.

On Friday, November 2, 2012 3:04:49 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:
On Nov 2, 2:31*pm, palsing wrote:

On Friday, November 2, 2012 6:25:56 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...0994466250_431...



The astronaut can choose to walk to a position where he doesn't have



to look at the Earth insofar as the moon underneath him doesn't



spin...



... doesn't spin too much, with respect to the earth..



He cannot avoid looking at the Sun as the lunar orbit of the



Earth brings the Sun into position once a month whatever side he



chooses to stand...



Whatever do you mean by *the lunar orbit of the Earth*? If you could only think about it for a minute you would understand that the moon clearly rotates with respect to both the sun and the fixed stars, otherwise neither would rise and set from the moon's surface.



Who,in God's name, wants to discuss things like these



when there is so much to deal with and specifically the lunar inputs



into the tides which certainly indicate an electromagnetic component



between the Earth and the Sun and the moon and the Earth as the tides



are most sensitive to planetary dynamics.



Tell me, how does the moon's presence indicate an electromagnetic component between the Earth and the Sun?



The damage is not done by your weakness,it is done by those who stand



off and then try to correct things in a poor way and without any



transparency and this will happen with this topic as well.



Fortunately, there is no damage done by your own weaknesses, either, because it is apparent to almost everyone that you are mostly wrong just about every time you open your mouth.



Here, think about this for a while...



http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...341812482_1052....



To bundle spacial distance with an evolutionary timeline is as

heartbreaking as a spinning moon ,as though common sense is turned

inside out and the imagination which was once a tool of creativity is

now a weapon all on its own.You don't mind that you can't match one 24

hour day with one rotation of the Earth or ask what I mean by a lunar

orbital circuit of the Earth with a strange honesty nor make sense of

the images of distant Uranus among many other things but you have

begun to speak for the rest ,even those who thought it best to remain

in the background.



I cannot even imagine what it would take for a person to go outside

tonight and look at an almost full moon,a lunar orbital feature,and

conclude that it also spins once as it moves around the Earth - you

and everyone else can and that means astronomy is no longer practiced

in any shape or form.

I knew it would drive you crazy... ;)

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...96454657_n.jpg

On Friday, November 2, 2012 2:59:48 PM UTC-7, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote:
"palsing" wrote in message
...



On
Friday, November 2, 2012 6:25:56 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:


http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...0994466250_431...




The astronaut can choose to walk to a position where
he doesn't have

to look at the Earth insofar as the moon
underneath him doesn't

spin...

... doesn't spin too
much, with respect to the earth..


He cannot avoid looking at the
Sun as the lunar orbit of the

Earth brings the Sun into
position once a month whatever side he

chooses to
stand...

Whatever do you mean by *the lunar orbit of the Earth*? If you
could only think about it for a minute you would understand that the moon
clearly rotates with respect to both the sun and the fixed stars, otherwise
neither would rise and set from the moon's surface.



Who,in
God's name, wants to discuss things like these

when there is so
much to deal with and specifically the lunar inputs

into the
tides which certainly indicate an electromagnetic component


between the Earth and the Sun and the moon and the Earth as the tides


are most sensitive to planetary dynamics.

Tell me, how does the
moon's presence indicate an electromagnetic component between the Earth and the
Sun?

The damage is not done by your weakness,it is done by those who
stand

off and then try to correct things in a poor way and
without any

transparency and this will happen with this topic
as well.

Fortunately, there is no damage done by your own weaknesses,
either, because it is apparent to almost everyone that you are mostly wrong just
about every time you open your mouth.

Here, think about this for a
while...

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...52909089_n.jpg


=======================================

And if they are intelligent enough to build a telescope


then there is not much point to SETI, they are
intelligent

enough not to send any signal that can’t be
answered

until 130 million years after it was sent. However,
there

are Neanderthals on Earth stupid enough to listen for


signs of extra-terrestrial stupidity. There are even


Neanderthals stupid enough to believe Einstein,
you

are one of them.

--
This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth
Earl of Medway

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...65901064_n.jpg

"palsing" wrote in message ...
On Friday, November 2, 2012 2:59:48 PM UTC-7, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote:
"palsing" wrote in message
...



On
Friday, November 2, 2012 6:25:56 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:


http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...0994466250_431...




The astronaut can choose to walk to a position where
he doesn't have

to look at the Earth insofar as the moon
underneath him doesn't

spin...

... doesn't spin too
much, with respect to the earth..


He cannot avoid looking at the
Sun as the lunar orbit of the

Earth brings the Sun into
position once a month whatever side he

chooses to
stand...

Whatever do you mean by *the lunar orbit of the Earth*? If you
could only think about it for a minute you would understand that the moon
clearly rotates with respect to both the sun and the fixed stars, otherwise
neither would rise and set from the moon's surface.



Who,in
God's name, wants to discuss things like these

when there is so
much to deal with and specifically the lunar inputs

into the
tides which certainly indicate an electromagnetic component


between the Earth and the Sun and the moon and the Earth as the tides


are most sensitive to planetary dynamics.

Tell me, how does the
moon's presence indicate an electromagnetic component between the Earth and the
Sun?

The damage is not done by your weakness,it is done by those who
stand

off and then try to correct things in a poor way and
without any

transparency and this will happen with this topic
as well.

Fortunately, there is no damage done by your own weaknesses,
either, because it is apparent to almost everyone that you are mostly wrong just
about every time you open your mouth.

Here, think about this for a
while...

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...52909089_n.jpg


=======================================

And if they are intelligent enough to build a telescope


then there is not much point to SETI, they are
intelligent

enough not to send any signal that can’t be
answered

until 130 million years after it was sent. However,
there

are Neanderthals on Earth stupid enough to listen for


signs of extra-terrestrial stupidity. There are even


Neanderthals stupid enough to believe Einstein,
you

are one of them.

--
This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth
Earl of Medway

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...65901064_n.jpg

What an excellent way to say “**** off” to a Neanderthal,
he’ll believe it and not tap on the glass.
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_as...2/jon7_GIF.gif
-- Hobbes.

On Friday, November 2, 2012 6:46:48 PM UTC-7, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote:
"palsing" wrote in message
...



On
Friday, November 2, 2012 2:59:48 PM UTC-7, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
wrote:
"palsing" wrote in message

...




On
Friday, November 2, 2012 6:25:56 AM UTC-7, oriel36
wrote:



http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...0994466250_431...





The astronaut can choose
to walk to a position where
he doesn't have


to look at the Earth insofar as the moon
underneath him doesn't


spin...

... doesn't spin too
much,
with respect to the earth..


He cannot avoid
looking at the
Sun as the lunar orbit of the


Earth brings the Sun into
position once a month whatever side
he

chooses to
stand...


Whatever do you mean by *the lunar orbit of the Earth*? If you
could
only think about it for a minute you would understand that the moon

clearly rotates with respect to both the sun and the fixed stars, otherwise

neither would rise and set from the moon's surface.




Who,in
God's name, wants to discuss things like
these

when there is so
much to deal with and
specifically the lunar inputs

into the
tides
which certainly indicate an electromagnetic component



between the Earth and the Sun and the moon and the Earth as the
tides


are most sensitive to planetary
dynamics.

Tell me, how does the
moon's presence
indicate an electromagnetic component between the Earth and the

Sun?

The damage is not done by your weakness,it is done by
those who
stand

off and then try to correct
things in a poor way and
without any


transparency and this will happen with this topic
as well.


Fortunately, there is no damage done by your own weaknesses,

either, because it is apparent to almost everyone that you are mostly wrong just

about every time you open your mouth.

Here, think
about this for a
while...


http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...52909089_n.jpg



=======================================

And
if they are intelligent enough to build a telescope



then there is not much point to SETI, they are
intelligent


enough not to send any signal that can’t be
answered


until 130 million years after it was sent. However,

there

are Neanderthals on Earth stupid enough to listen for



signs of extra-terrestrial stupidity. There are even



Neanderthals stupid enough to believe Einstein,

you

are one of them.

--
This
message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth

Earl of Medway

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...65901064_n.jpg

*

What an excellent way to say “**** off” to a
Neanderthal,

he’ll believe it and not tap on the
glass.

*http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_as...2/jon7_GIF.gif

-- Hobbes.

Fabulous!

On Nov 2, 3:04*pm, oriel36 wrote:
On Nov 2, 2:31*pm, palsing wrote:









On Friday, November 2, 2012 6:25:56 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...0994466250_431...

The astronaut can choose to walk to a position where he doesn't have

to look at the Earth insofar as the moon underneath him doesn't

spin...

... doesn't spin too much, with respect to the earth..

He cannot avoid looking at the Sun as the lunar orbit of the

Earth brings the Sun into position once a month whatever side he

chooses to stand...

Whatever do you mean by *the lunar orbit of the Earth*? If you could only think about it for a minute you would understand that the moon clearly rotates with respect to both the sun and the fixed stars, otherwise neither would rise and set from the moon's surface.

Who,in God's name, wants to discuss things like these

when there is so much to deal with and specifically the lunar inputs

into the tides which certainly indicate an electromagnetic component

between the Earth and the Sun and the moon and the Earth as the tides

are most sensitive to planetary dynamics.

Tell me, how does the moon's presence indicate an electromagnetic component between the Earth and the Sun?

The damage is not done by your weakness,it is done by those who stand

off and then try to correct things in a poor way and without any

transparency and this will happen with this topic as well.

Fortunately, there is no damage done by your own weaknesses, either, because it is apparent to almost everyone that you are mostly wrong just about every time you open your mouth.

Here, think about this for a while...

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...341812482_1052...

To bundle spacial *distance with an evolutionary timeline is as
heartbreaking as a spinning moon ,as though common sense is turned
inside out and the imagination which was once a tool of creativity is
now a weapon all on its own.You don't mind that you can't match one 24
hour day with one rotation of the Earth or ask what I mean by a lunar
orbital circuit of the Earth with a strange honesty nor make sense of
the images of *distant Uranus among many other things but you have
begun to speak for the rest ,even those who thought it best to remain
in the background.

I cannot even imagine what it would take for a person to go outside
tonight and look at an almost full moon,a lunar orbital feature,and
conclude that it also spins once as it moves around the Earth - you
and everyone else can and that means astronomy is no longer practiced
in any shape or form.

Remove Earth from your version of our solar system, and now explain
what that moon as an independent planetoid is doing.

On Nov 2, 5:53*pm, palsing wrote:
On Friday, November 2, 2012 3:04:49 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:
On Nov 2, 2:31*pm, palsing wrote:

On Friday, November 2, 2012 6:25:56 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...0994466250_431...

The astronaut can choose to walk to a position where he doesn't have

to look at the Earth insofar as the moon underneath him doesn't

spin...

... doesn't spin too much, with respect to the earth..

He cannot avoid looking at the Sun as the lunar orbit of the

Earth brings the Sun into position once a month whatever side he

chooses to stand...

Whatever do you mean by *the lunar orbit of the Earth*? If you could only think about it for a minute you would understand that the moon clearly rotates with respect to both the sun and the fixed stars, otherwise neither would rise and set from the moon's surface.

Who,in God's name, wants to discuss things like these

when there is so much to deal with and specifically the lunar inputs

into the tides which certainly indicate an electromagnetic component

between the Earth and the Sun and the moon and the Earth as the tides

are most sensitive to planetary dynamics.

Tell me, how does the moon's presence indicate an electromagnetic component between the Earth and the Sun?

The damage is not done by your weakness,it is done by those who stand

off and then try to correct things in a poor way and without any

transparency and this will happen with this topic as well.

Fortunately, there is no damage done by your own weaknesses, either, because it is apparent to almost everyone that you are mostly wrong just about every time you open your mouth.

Here, think about this for a while...

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...341812482_1052....

To bundle spacial *distance with an evolutionary timeline is as

heartbreaking as a spinning moon ,as though common sense is turned

inside out and the imagination which was once a tool of creativity is

now a weapon all on its own.You don't mind that you can't match one 24

hour day with one rotation of the Earth or ask what I mean by a lunar

orbital circuit of the Earth with a strange honesty nor make sense of

the images of *distant Uranus among many other things but you have

begun to speak for the rest ,even those who thought it best to remain

in the background.

I cannot even imagine what it would take for a person to go outside

tonight and look at an almost full moon,a lunar orbital feature,and

conclude that it also spins once as it moves around the Earth - you

and everyone else can and that means astronomy is no longer practiced

in any shape or form.

I knew it would drive you crazy... ;)

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...441564072_1096...

How does anyone face a child and tell them to look out at the moon and
watch it spin,at least anyone who values their intelligence, common
sense and the natural tendency to protect children .The only person
ever to imagine a spinning moon did so a few paragraphs after
assigning a 23 hour rotation period for Venus ! -

http://books.google.ie/books?id=gB2-...page&q&f=false

What have you done to yourselves by believing that it is possible to
see the evolutionary timeline of the Universe directly ?, I assure
you that while I look at that unfortunate stance with a sense of
pity,I also have to work to raise the standard of astronomy for
children who will no longer suffer from this empirical assault on
astronomy including 'big bang'.A person who imagines they can view the
Universal past directly has no value on their own individual past or
that of anyone else,the past is pieced together in all the clues left
in the fossil record,rock strata,supernova remnants and all other
evolutionary clues that create an ever changing picture.

The love between the Universal and the individual is a two way
street,as a Christian it is a central tenet or the background faith
against which all creative and productive endeavors are accomplished
so that while much of Christianity is centered on human
existence,without a love of creation there is no chance that love of
humanity is pursued.That is why attacks on me do not work,I am too
engrossed on the goings on in the celestial arena to descend to a
level where the Universe is mocked and in doing so you mock
yourselves.

People cannot live with errors for a long period of time,they simply
cannot live with the idea of a spinning moon as it is not just an act
of intellectual defiance but drains the mind of any satisfaction it
has from affirming that the moon orbits the Earth without spinning 360
degrees thereby we always see the same side.

On Saturday, November 3, 2012 12:36:08 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

How does anyone face a child and tell them to look out at the moon and

watch it spin...

That would be silly, because the moon doesn't appear to rotate from the Earth's surface, but it definitely appears rotate from virtually everywhere else. It is only a matter of perspective, of which you have often reminded us that you don't understand.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...67384675_n.jpg

On Nov 3, 11:31*am, palsing wrote:
On Saturday, November 3, 2012 12:36:08 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:
How does anyone face a child and tell them to look out at the moon and

watch it spin...

That would be silly, because the moon doesn't appear to rotate from the Earth's surface, but it definitely appears rotate from virtually everywhere else.

Sweet mother of mercy !.

In your favor,you are no snake and apart from your temporary descent
into supporting obscenity,I commend you for your honesty as I always
thought you were protecting somebody else rather than speaking for
yourself.





It is only a matter of perspective, of which you have often reminded
us that you don't understand.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...1080610519_967...

Who is 'us' ? ,have you a mouse in your pocket as you used to say.

God only knows what happens when you are faced with the sequential
images of Uranus which shows the polar coordinates of a planet turn
360 degrees to the central Sun and act like a beacon for a planet's
orbital behavior.I know you think that is just a perspective seen from
a moving Earth but God knows what will go through your head as the
polar coordinates still continue to turn !
-

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/...gs_changes.jpg

If people wish to be treated like astronomers,paid or not,they will
accept the necessary modification centering around axial precession
and understand to the best of their abilities what has been done in
respect to the explanation for the seasons,global climate and the
variations in the natural noon cycle.

On Saturday, November 3, 2012 11:57:31 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

Who is 'us' ? ,have you a mouse in your pocket as you used to say.

Yep, I've said that before, fer sure.

*Us* would be all who think the moon rotates, with respect to virtually everything other than the Earth, and that would encompass a huge majority of the general population and 100% of the scientific community. Do you really think that you are right about this when hundreds of thousands of science-types know better? Not very likely... you are in a microscopic minority here and will never convince anyone to see this your way. Your *intuitive intelligence* fails you again! Perspective, perspective, perspective...

God only knows what happens when you are faced with the sequential

images of Uranus which shows the polar coordinates of a planet turn

360 degrees to the central Sun and act like a beacon for a planet's

orbital behavior.I know you think that is just a perspective seen from

a moving Earth but God knows what will go through your head as the

polar coordinates still continue to turn !

No, they don't actually turn, they only appear to turn wrt the Sun. Earth's pole continuously points in the general direction of Polaris, and the pole of Uranus continuously points at whatever its pole star may be, and the same is true of all the planets. The fact that with respect to the Sun they change throughout their respective orbits is a consequence of that orbital motion. This causes the seasons and is a well-known effect.

If people wish to be treated like astronomers,paid or not,they will

accept the necessary modification centering around axial precession...

For some inexplicable reason, you seem to think that this changing axial *tilt* wrt the Sun is the definition of axial precession, but you are wrong, wrong, wrong. Don't take my word for it, just look it up yourself...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession

.... and understand that you can't hijack this definition any apply it to something completely different.

and understand to the best of their abilities what has been done in

respect to the explanation for the seasons,global climate and the

variations in the natural noon cycle.

We all know the reason for the seasons, it is basic and elementary, and the same holds true for the variations in the natural noon cycles, there is nothing *new* that needs to be discussed, all of this is Old Business...