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A different optical telescope
I suggest making a reflector optical telescope with a diameter of 100 yards
or more. Instead of using a highly polished mirror, which is very expensive even for a small one, I suggest using the reflective surface of good quality aluminum foil for the concave mirror to gather very much light and focus it to the focal point of the telescope. The aluminum foil can be glued to the surface of a plastic concave surface, that is manufactured in sections, and assembled with a hundred yard or more diameter. Aluminum supports can be used to hold this huge concave plastic structure. I know that the reflectivity of aluminum foil is not as good as a polished mirror, however I think that you could get a higher magnification image (that is clear enough) because of the much larger diameter of the reflector, which will gather much more light. A computer program could be designed to clean up the image, to make it clearer, if that seems to be necessary. Since the most expensive part of a reflector optical telescope is the polished mirror, this use of aluminum foil could allow for a much more powerful optical telescope with much less expence. The mechanics of moving this large reflector telescope and housing it are engineering problems that could be worked out. __________________________________________________ _____________________________ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com The Worlds Uncensored News Source |
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A different optical telescope
I suggest making a reflector optical telescope with a diameter of 100 yards
or more. Instead of using a highly polished mirror, which is very expensive even for a small one... The goal is higher resolution. That means that the roughness of the reflecting surface must be small in relation to the diameter of the mirror. You are suggesting that you increase both the roughness and the diameter. Why do you think the ratio would be any better? Why do you think that the construction would be less expensive? |
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A different optical telescope
The goal is higher resolution. That means that the roughness of the
reflecting surface must be small in relation to the diameter of the mirror. You are suggesting that you increase both the roughness and the diameter. Why do you think the ratio would be any better? Why do you think that the construction would be less expensive? Also, don't forget the other important effort of isolating the telescope from vibration and thermal effects, etc. That seems to me to be much more expensive as you scale up the size of the device. |
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A different optical telescope
The only reason I can see for going to a larger diameter is to look at
longer wavelength information. Google on "Arecibo radio telescope". |
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A different optical telescope
Also, don't forget the other important effort of isolating the telescope
from vibration and thermal effects, etc. That seems to me to be much more expensive as you scale up the size of the device. Oh yes, and moving it around to aim it pointing at different positions in the sky? |
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"stone" wrote in message ... I suggest making a reflector optical telescope with a diameter of 100 yards or more. Instead of using a highly polished mirror, which is very expensive even for a small one, I suggest using the reflective surface of good quality aluminum foil Thousands of PhDs in optical engineering and this bloke comes out of the blue with something.... ah... |
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A different optical telescope
"stone" wrote in
: I suggest making a reflector optical telescope with a diameter of 100 yards or more. Instead of using a highly polished mirror, which is very expensive even for a small one, I suggest using the reflective surface of good quality aluminum foil for the concave mirror to gather very much light and focus it to the focal point of the telescope. The aluminum foil can be glued to the surface of a plastic concave surface, that is manufactured in sections, and assembled with a hundred yard or more diameter. Aluminum supports can be used to hold this huge concave plastic structure. I know that the reflectivity of aluminum foil is not as good as a polished mirror, Dead on arrival. The wavefront error of aluminium foil stuck onto plastic is too great for visible light. The polishing of mirrors is done to achieve high surface accuracy, not high reflectivity. The OWL project intends to build a segmented mirror project of similar size the the one you are suggesting. http://www.eso.org/projects/owl/OWL_design.html Klazmon. SNIP |
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A different optical telescope
"odin" wrote in message om... I suggest making a reflector optical telescope with a diameter of 100 yards or more. Instead of using a highly polished mirror, which is very expensive even for a small one... The goal is higher resolution. That means that the roughness of the reflecting surface must be small in relation to the diameter of the mirror. You are suggesting that you increase both the roughness and the diameter. Why do you think the ratio would be any better? Why do you think that the construction would be less expensive? Actually, it is not the diameter of the mirror that 'matters', in terms of the surface accuracy, buy the wavelength you are trying to view/image. What is described, would work fine, for wavelengths in excess of a few cm (a radio telescope), but for visible light, the surface would be thousands of times too rough... Best Wishes |
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A different optical telescope
stone wrote: I suggest making a reflector optical telescope with a diameter of 100 yards or more. Two good optical telescopes 100 yards apart operated synchronously with after-the-fact image processing will give the same high resolution: Google "keck telescope" http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap971227.html Instead of using a highly polished mirror, which is very expensive even for a small one, I suggest using the reflective surface of good quality aluminum foil for the concave mirror to gather very much light and focus it to the focal point of the telescope. Not good enough. Diffraction effects and other problems require polishing optical "primaries" to within 1/4 wavelength of the light to be used. The aluminum foil can be glued to the surface of a plastic concave surface, that is manufactured in sections, and assembled with a hundred yard or more diameter. Aluminum supports can be used to hold this huge concave plastic structure. That might make a good solar oven, but astronomers gave up on huge single lenses and mirrors after Palomar. In order to make a mirror that is rigid enough to be useful it becomes too heavy to move. If you want to take a picture requiring an exposure of more than a small fraction of a second (some pictures require *days* of exposure!) you will *have* to move the mirror. I know that the reflectivity of aluminum foil is not as good as a polished mirror, however I think that you could get a higher magnification image (that is clear enough) because of the much larger diameter of the reflector, which will gather much more light. Magnification is a simple ratio of the focal lengths of the primary and secondary optics. A computer program could be designed to clean up the image, to make it clearer, if that seems to be necessary. It is routine now. Since the most expensive part of a reflector optical telescope is the polished mirror, this use of aluminum foil could allow for a much more powerful optical telescope with much less expence. That was *last century*. The Keck optical telescopes are twice the diameter of the Palomar objective, with 4 times the light-gathering power, and a fraction of the weight AND cost. http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/...telescope.html The mechanics of moving this large reflector telescope and housing it are engineering problems that could be worked out. Yeah! Like aiming a flag on a windy day! Keep studying. You are reinventing wheels. Before you can lead the advance, you have to catch up to the rest. Tom Davidson Richmond, VA |
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I think you just want to corner the market on aluminum foil, thus driving up
the price and become rich overnight. Yea, that's it ... another get-rich-quick scheme. Suggest that all participants in the scheme are required to wear aluminum foil hats, that will increase consumption even more. "stone" wrote in message ... I suggest making a reflector optical telescope with a diameter of 100 yards or more. Instead of using a highly polished mirror, which is very expensive even for a small one, I suggest using the reflective surface of good quality aluminum foil for the concave mirror to gather very much light and focus it to the focal point of the telescope. The aluminum foil can be glued to the surface of a plastic concave surface, that is manufactured in sections, and assembled with a hundred yard or more diameter. Aluminum supports can be used to hold this huge concave plastic structure. I know that the reflectivity of aluminum foil is not as good as a polished mirror, however I think that you could get a higher magnification image (that is clear enough) because of the much larger diameter of the reflector, which will gather much more light. A computer program could be designed to clean up the image, to make it clearer, if that seems to be necessary. Since the most expensive part of a reflector optical telescope is the polished mirror, this use of aluminum foil could allow for a much more powerful optical telescope with much less expence. The mechanics of moving this large reflector telescope and housing it are engineering problems that could be worked out. __________________________________________________ __________________________ ___ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com The Worlds Uncensored News Source |
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