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Old November 26th 06, 09:42 AM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy
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wrote:
Sue... wrote:
Tom Potter wrote:
[...]

One has to wonder how anyone, or any "Thing", could confuse
Maxwell, who experimented and wrote about things
in an intelligent, rational way,
with the Bible,

which is a collection of ridiculous myths,
which doesn't even compare in rationality
with the Greek and Roman histories of those days.

It appears that Maxwell was not "mystified" by anything
as he was able to rationally evaluate and consolidate
all of the known data about astronomy, electricity and chemistry,
and no doubt, if he had access to present day data,
he would have had no trouble in comprehending it,
and either incorporating it into his works,
or to create a new model which would cover it better.

Regarding "The Thing's" comment:
"Maxwell had no clue about much of atomic theory."

As I wrote:
"Maxwell established the framework for modern atomic theory
by postulating dimensionless points, and assembling the
points into atoms, molecules, and larger structures,
while leaving room for finer complex assembles of points
such as quarks and neutrinos."


Time dependant Maxwell's equations don't leave any
place for the mythical twins to hide so don't expect
broad acceptance from the H.G. Wells fans.

Time-independent Maxwell equations
Time-dependent Maxwell's equations
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teachin.../lectures.html


But most importantly,
Maxwell created the model that all physical theories
MUST conform to. "Dimensional Analysis".

Maths are languages.
Equations are sentences.
Units are politics.
Dimensional Analysis is physics.

( If a model doesn't fit Maxwell's Dimensions, it is not correct.)

Have you ever heard of Van der Waals or London forces?
http://www.research.ibm.com/grape/grape_ewald.htm
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/GSP/SEM0L6OVGJE_0.html


Are you asserting that these models
do not conform to Maxwell's Dimensional Analysis?

If so, please provide examples.

--
Tom Potter




To the Air of Lorelei

I.

Alone on a hillside of heather,
I lay with dark thoughts in my mind,
In the midst of the beautiful weather
I was deaf, I was dumb, I was blind.
I knew not the glories around me,
I counted the world as it seems,
Till a spirit of melody found me,
And taught me in visions and dreams.

II.

For the sound of a chorus of voices
Came gathering up from below,
And I heard how all Nature rejoices,
And moves with a musical flow.
O strange! we are lost in delusion,
Our ways and doings are wrong,
We are drowning, in wilful confusion,
The notes of that wonderful song.

III.

But listen, what harmony holy
Is mingling its notes with our own!
The discord is vanishing slowly,
And melts in that dominant tone.
And they that have heard it can never
Return to confusion again,
Their voices are music for ever,
And join in the mystical strain.

IV.

No mortal can utter the beauty
That dwells in the song that they sing;
They move in the pathway of duty,
They follow the steps of their King.
I would barter the world and its glory,
That vision of joy to prolong,
Or to hear and remember the story
That lies in the heart of their song.

James Clerk Maxwell

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Old November 26th 06, 09:25 PM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy
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The Vampyre

Thair is a knichte rydis through the wood,
And a doughty knichte is tree,
And sure hee is on a message sent,
He rydis see hastilie.
Hee passit the aik, and hee passit the birk,
And hee passit monie a tre,
Bot plesant to him was the saugh sae slim,
For beneath it hee did see
The boniest ladye that ever he saw,
Scho was see schyn and fair.
And there scho sat, beneath the saugh,
Kaiming hir gowden hair.
And then the knichte-"Oh ladye brichte,
What chance hes brought you here,
But say the word, and ye schall gang
Back to your kindred dear."
Then up and spok the Ladye fair-
"I have nae friends or kin,
Bot in a littel boat I live,
Amidst the waves' loud din."
Then answered thus the douchty knichte-
"I'll follow you through all,
For gin ye bee in a littel boat,
The world to it seemis small."
They gaed through the wood, and through the wood
To the end of the wood they came:
And when they came to the end of the wood
They saw the salt sea faem.
And then they saw the wee, wee boat,
That daunced on the top of the wave,
And first got in the ladye fair,
And then the knichte sae brave;
They got into the wee, wee boat,
And rowed wi' a' their micht;
When the knichte sae brave, he turnit about,
And lookit at the ladye bricht;
He lookit at her bonie cheik,
And hee lookit at hir twa bricht eyne,
Bot hir rosie cheik growe ghaistly pale,
And scho seymit as scho deid had been.
The fause fause knichte growe pale wi frichte,
And his hair rose up on end,
For gane-by days cam to his mynde,
And his former luve he kenned.
Then spake the ladye,-"Thou, fause knichte,
Hast done to mee much ill,
Thou didst forsake me long ago,
Bot I am constant still;
For though I ligg in the woods sae cald,
At rest I canna bee
Until I sucke the gude lyfe blude
Of the man that gart me dee."
Hee saw hir lipps were wet wi' blude,
And hee saw hir lyfelesse eyne,
And loud hee cry'd, "Get frae my syde,
Thou vampyr corps uncleane!"
Bot no, hee is in hir magic boat,
And on the wyde wyde sea;
And the vampyr suckis his gude lyfe blude,
Sho suckis hym till hee dee.
So now beware, whoe're you are,
That walkis in this lone wood;
Beware of that deceitfull spright,
The ghaist that suckle the blude.

James Clerk Maxwell

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Old November 26th 06, 10:37 PM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy
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Twittering One wrote:
Maxwell was well known for talking to his dog about his scientific
theories.



Well, Bert talks to Rudy.

I guess great minds work alike!

Double-A

P.S. I think Newton had a horse.

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Old November 27th 06, 12:53 AM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy
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"Double-A" wrote in message
oups.com...
|
| The Vampyre
|
| Thair is a knichte rydis through the wood,
| And a doughty knichte is tree,
| And sure hee is on a message sent,
| He rydis see hastilie.
| Hee passit the aik, and hee passit the birk,
| And hee passit monie a tre,
| Bot plesant to him was the saugh sae slim,
| For beneath it hee did see
| The boniest ladye that ever he saw,
| Scho was see schyn and fair.
| And there scho sat, beneath the saugh,
| Kaiming hir gowden hair.
| And then the knichte-"Oh ladye brichte,
| What chance hes brought you here,
| But say the word, and ye schall gang
| Back to your kindred dear."
| Then up and spok the Ladye fair-
| "I have nae friends or kin,
| Bot in a littel boat I live,
| Amidst the waves' loud din."
| Then answered thus the douchty knichte-
| "I'll follow you through all,
| For gin ye bee in a littel boat,
| The world to it seemis small."
| They gaed through the wood, and through the wood
| To the end of the wood they came:
| And when they came to the end of the wood
| They saw the salt sea faem.
| And then they saw the wee, wee boat,
| That daunced on the top of the wave,
| And first got in the ladye fair,
| And then the knichte sae brave;
| They got into the wee, wee boat,
| And rowed wi' a' their micht;
| When the knichte sae brave, he turnit about,
| And lookit at the ladye bricht;
| He lookit at her bonie cheik,
| And hee lookit at hir twa bricht eyne,
| Bot hir rosie cheik growe ghaistly pale,
| And scho seymit as scho deid had been.
| The fause fause knichte growe pale wi frichte,
| And his hair rose up on end,
| For gane-by days cam to his mynde,
| And his former luve he kenned.
| Then spake the ladye,-"Thou, fause knichte,
| Hast done to mee much ill,
| Thou didst forsake me long ago,
| Bot I am constant still;
| For though I ligg in the woods sae cald,
| At rest I canna bee
| Until I sucke the gude lyfe blude
| Of the man that gart me dee."
| Hee saw hir lipps were wet wi' blude,
| And hee saw hir lyfelesse eyne,
| And loud hee cry'd, "Get frae my syde,
| Thou vampyr corps uncleane!"
| Bot no, hee is in hir magic boat,
| And on the wyde wyde sea;
| And the vampyr suckis his gude lyfe blude,
| Sho suckis hym till hee dee.
| So now beware, whoe're you are,
| That walkis in this lone wood;
| Beware of that deceitfull spright,
| The ghaist that suckle the blude.
|
| James Clerk Maxwell
|
Haha! Very gud!

Was Maxwell the Edinburgh vampire?



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Old November 27th 06, 01:09 AM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy
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Sorcerer wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message
oups.com...
|
| The Vampyre
|
| Thair is a knichte rydis through the wood,
| And a doughty knichte is tree,
| And sure hee is on a message sent,
| He rydis see hastilie.
| Hee passit the aik, and hee passit the birk,
| And hee passit monie a tre,
| Bot plesant to him was the saugh sae slim,
| For beneath it hee did see
| The boniest ladye that ever he saw,
| Scho was see schyn and fair.
| And there scho sat, beneath the saugh,
| Kaiming hir gowden hair.
| And then the knichte-"Oh ladye brichte,
| What chance hes brought you here,
| But say the word, and ye schall gang
| Back to your kindred dear."
| Then up and spok the Ladye fair-
| "I have nae friends or kin,
| Bot in a littel boat I live,
| Amidst the waves' loud din."
| Then answered thus the douchty knichte-
| "I'll follow you through all,
| For gin ye bee in a littel boat,
| The world to it seemis small."
| They gaed through the wood, and through the wood
| To the end of the wood they came:
| And when they came to the end of the wood
| They saw the salt sea faem.
| And then they saw the wee, wee boat,
| That daunced on the top of the wave,
| And first got in the ladye fair,
| And then the knichte sae brave;
| They got into the wee, wee boat,
| And rowed wi' a' their micht;
| When the knichte sae brave, he turnit about,
| And lookit at the ladye bricht;
| He lookit at her bonie cheik,
| And hee lookit at hir twa bricht eyne,
| Bot hir rosie cheik growe ghaistly pale,
| And scho seymit as scho deid had been.
| The fause fause knichte growe pale wi frichte,
| And his hair rose up on end,
| For gane-by days cam to his mynde,
| And his former luve he kenned.
| Then spake the ladye,-"Thou, fause knichte,
| Hast done to mee much ill,
| Thou didst forsake me long ago,
| Bot I am constant still;
| For though I ligg in the woods sae cald,
| At rest I canna bee
| Until I sucke the gude lyfe blude
| Of the man that gart me dee."
| Hee saw hir lipps were wet wi' blude,
| And hee saw hir lyfelesse eyne,
| And loud hee cry'd, "Get frae my syde,
| Thou vampyr corps uncleane!"
| Bot no, hee is in hir magic boat,
| And on the wyde wyde sea;
| And the vampyr suckis his gude lyfe blude,
| Sho suckis hym till hee dee.
| So now beware, whoe're you are,
| That walkis in this lone wood;
| Beware of that deceitfull spright,
| The ghaist that suckle the blude.
|
| James Clerk Maxwell
|
Haha! Very gud!

Was Maxwell the Edinburgh vampire?



If he was, maybe he still is!!!

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Old November 27th 06, 03:58 AM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy
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"Double-A" wrote in message
oups.com...

The Vampyre

Thair is a knichte rydis through the wood,
And a doughty knichte is tree,


"Double-A" makes a good point
when he points out that Maxwell was proficient
in many fields, including poetry,
and could write in various languages,
including old English.

Maxwell's friends observed that he
seemed to know everything about everything.
comprehended the essence of things.

As one friend wrote:
"He was highly accomplished in music, painting, and languages. At the age of
nineteen he went abroad for
three years to finish his education. He studied one year under the
celebrated Dr. Boerhaave at Leyden, where he
was a pupil of William Mieris in drawing. He afterwards went to Florence and
Rome, where he had lessons in
music from Antonio Corelli, and in painting from Imperiale. He wrote an
opera which was performed in Rome."

Note how Maxwell used poetry to teach
dynamics in the poem below,
which he wrote in contemporary English.

A PROBLEM IN DYNAMICS. 19th Feb. 1854.

An inextensible heavy chain
Lies on a smooth horizontal plane,
An impulsive force is applied at A,
Required the initial motion of K.
Let ds be the infinitesimal link,
Of which for the present we've only to think; [626]

Let T be the tension, and T + dT
The same for the end that is nearest to B.
Let a be put, by a common convention,
For the angle at M 'twixt OX and the tension;
Let Vt and Vn be ds's velocities,
Of which Vt along and Vn across it is;

Then Vn/Vt the tangent will equal,
Of the angle of starting worked out in the sequel.
In working the problem the first thing of course is
To equate the impressed and effectual forces.
K is tugged by two tensions, whose difference dT
(1) Must equal the element's mass into Vt.

Vn must be due to the force perpendicular
To ds's direction, which shows the particular
Advantage of using da to serve at your
Pleasure to estimate ds's curvature.
For Vn into mass of a unit of chain
(2) Must equal the curvature into the strain.

Thus managing cause and effect to discriminate,
The student must fruitlessly try to eliminate,
And painfully learn, that in order to do it, he
Must find the Equation of Continuity.
The reason is this, that the tough little element,
Which the force of impulsion to beat to a jelly meant,

Was endowed with a property incomprehensible,
And was "given," in the language of Shop, "inextensible."
It therefore with such pertinacity odd defied
The force which the length of the chain should have modified,
That its stubborn example may possibly yet recall
These overgrown rhymes to their prosody metrical.

The condition is got by resolving again,
According to axes assumed in the plane.
If then you reduce to the tangent and normal,
(3) You will find the equation more neat tho' less formal. [627]
(4) The condition thus found after these preparations,
When duly combined with the former equations,

Will give you another, in which differentials
(5) (When the chain forms a circle), become in essentials
No harder than those that we easily solve
(6) In the time a T totum would take to revolve.
Now joyfully leaving ds to itself, a-
Ttend to the values of T and of a.

The chain undergoes a distorting convulsion,
Produced first at A by the force of impulsion.
In magnitude R, in direction tangential,
(7) Equating this R to the form exponential,
Obtained for the tension when a is zero,
It will measure the tug, such a tug as the "hero

Plume-waving" experienced, tied to the chariot.
But when dragged by the heels his grim head could not carry aught,
(8) So give a its due at the end of the chain,
And the tension ought there to be zero again.
From these two conditions we get three equations,
Which serve to determine the proper relations

Between the first impulse and each coefficient
In the form for the tension, and this is sufficient
To work out the problem, and then, if you choose,
You may turn it and twist it the Dons to amuse.

* Equations referred to not list as they were graphics.

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Old November 27th 06, 09:34 AM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy
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"Double-A" wrote in message
oups.com...
|
| Sorcerer wrote:
| "Double-A" wrote in message
| oups.com...
| |
| | The Vampyre
| |
| | Thair is a knichte rydis through the wood,
| | And a doughty knichte is tree,
| | And sure hee is on a message sent,
| | He rydis see hastilie.
| | Hee passit the aik, and hee passit the birk,
| | And hee passit monie a tre,
| | Bot plesant to him was the saugh sae slim,
| | For beneath it hee did see
| | The boniest ladye that ever he saw,
| | Scho was see schyn and fair.
| | And there scho sat, beneath the saugh,
| | Kaiming hir gowden hair.
| | And then the knichte-"Oh ladye brichte,
| | What chance hes brought you here,
| | But say the word, and ye schall gang
| | Back to your kindred dear."
| | Then up and spok the Ladye fair-
| | "I have nae friends or kin,
| | Bot in a littel boat I live,
| | Amidst the waves' loud din."
| | Then answered thus the douchty knichte-
| | "I'll follow you through all,
| | For gin ye bee in a littel boat,
| | The world to it seemis small."
| | They gaed through the wood, and through the wood
| | To the end of the wood they came:
| | And when they came to the end of the wood
| | They saw the salt sea faem.
| | And then they saw the wee, wee boat,
| | That daunced on the top of the wave,
| | And first got in the ladye fair,
| | And then the knichte sae brave;
| | They got into the wee, wee boat,
| | And rowed wi' a' their micht;
| | When the knichte sae brave, he turnit about,
| | And lookit at the ladye bricht;
| | He lookit at her bonie cheik,
| | And hee lookit at hir twa bricht eyne,
| | Bot hir rosie cheik growe ghaistly pale,
| | And scho seymit as scho deid had been.
| | The fause fause knichte growe pale wi frichte,
| | And his hair rose up on end,
| | For gane-by days cam to his mynde,
| | And his former luve he kenned.
| | Then spake the ladye,-"Thou, fause knichte,
| | Hast done to mee much ill,
| | Thou didst forsake me long ago,
| | Bot I am constant still;
| | For though I ligg in the woods sae cald,
| | At rest I canna bee
| | Until I sucke the gude lyfe blude
| | Of the man that gart me dee."
| | Hee saw hir lipps were wet wi' blude,
| | And hee saw hir lyfelesse eyne,
| | And loud hee cry'd, "Get frae my syde,
| | Thou vampyr corps uncleane!"
| | Bot no, hee is in hir magic boat,
| | And on the wyde wyde sea;
| | And the vampyr suckis his gude lyfe blude,
| | Sho suckis hym till hee dee.
| | So now beware, whoe're you are,
| | That walkis in this lone wood;
| | Beware of that deceitfull spright,
| | The ghaist that suckle the blude.
| |
| | James Clerk Maxwell
| |
| Haha! Very gud!
|
| Was Maxwell the Edinburgh vampire?
|
|
| If he was, maybe he still is!!!
|

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/biography/Maxwell.html


Scottish mathematician and physicist who published physical and mathematical
theories of the electromagnetic field. When he first became interested in
electricity, he wrote Kelvin asking how best to proceed. Kelvin recommended
that Maxwell read the published works in the order Faraday, Kelvin, Ampère,
and then the German physicists. He also proposed a physical theory of ether.


Maxwell made numerous other contributions to the advancement of science. He
argued that the rings of Saturn were small individual particles.

I'm still puzzled over what Maxwell ever did aside from sit in his ivory
tower and plagiarise Faraday's, Gauss's and Ampere's equations.

If arguing the obvious is a contribution to the advancement of science then
I'm the top physicist
of this era. Maybe I should write romantic nonsense poetry in a Kentish
accent. Beware the Jabberwok.


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Old November 27th 06, 10:18 AM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy
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"Tom Potter" wrote in message
.. .
|
| "Double-A" wrote in message
| oups.com...
|
| The Vampyre
|
| Thair is a knichte rydis through the wood,
| And a doughty knichte is tree,
|
| "Double-A" makes a good point

Standard Potty term for "Potty wants to rant something".

Double-A didn't make a point or even try to, he quoted a poem, Potty.

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.


And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!


One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.


"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.




`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

Did I make a "good point", Potty?




| when he points out that Maxwell was proficient
| in many fields, including poetry,
| and could write in various languages,
| including old English.

You confuse Scottish pidgin with English, Potty.

This is "old English":

LAW I.
Every body perseveres in its state of rest, or of uniform motion in a right
line, unless it is compelled to change that state by forces impressed
thereon.

Isaac Newton's Principia 1687, Translated by Andrew Motte 1729
BECAUSE NEWTON WROTE IT IN LATIN, the universal lingua franca of European
academia.


Did I make a "good point", Potty?
Let me make another.
Nos a Bore

Ar noswaith ddrycinog mi euthum i rodio
Ar lannau y Fenai gan ddistaw fyfyrio;
Y gwynt oedd yn uchel, a gwyllt oedd y wendon,
A’r môr oedd yn lluchio dros waliau Caernarfon.

Ond trannoeth y bore mi euthum i rodio
Hyd lannau y Fenai, tawelwch oedd yno;
Y gwynt oedd yn ddistaw, a’r môr oedd yn dirion,
A’r haul oedd yn twrynnu ar waliau Caernarfon.



Night and Morning

One night of tempest I arose and went
Along the Menai shore on dreaming bent;
The wind was strong, and savage swung the tide,
And the waves blustered on Caernarfon side.

But on the morrow, when I passed that way,
On Menai shore the hush of heaven lay;
The wind was gentle and the sea a flower,
And the sun slumbered on Caernarfon tower.



|
| Maxwell's friends observed that he
| seemed to know everything about everything.


In other words they were an ignorant bunch, you'd fit in well with them.

Androcles.




| comprehended the essence of things.
|
| As one friend wrote:
| "He was highly accomplished in music, painting, and languages. At the age
of
| nineteen he went abroad for
| three years to finish his education. He studied one year under the
| celebrated Dr. Boerhaave at Leyden, where he
| was a pupil of William Mieris in drawing. He afterwards went to Florence
and
| Rome, where he had lessons in
| music from Antonio Corelli, and in painting from Imperiale. He wrote an
| opera which was performed in Rome."
|
| Note how Maxwell used poetry to teach
| dynamics in the poem below,
| which he wrote in contemporary English.
|
| A PROBLEM IN DYNAMICS. 19th Feb. 1854.
|
| An inextensible heavy chain
| Lies on a smooth horizontal plane,
| An impulsive force is applied at A,
| Required the initial motion of K.
| Let ds be the infinitesimal link,
| Of which for the present we've only to think; [626]
|
| Let T be the tension, and T + dT
| The same for the end that is nearest to B.
| Let a be put, by a common convention,
| For the angle at M 'twixt OX and the tension;
| Let Vt and Vn be ds's velocities,
| Of which Vt along and Vn across it is;
|
| Then Vn/Vt the tangent will equal,
| Of the angle of starting worked out in the sequel.
| In working the problem the first thing of course is
| To equate the impressed and effectual forces.
| K is tugged by two tensions, whose difference dT
| (1) Must equal the element's mass into Vt.
|
| Vn must be due to the force perpendicular
| To ds's direction, which shows the particular
| Advantage of using da to serve at your
| Pleasure to estimate ds's curvature.
| For Vn into mass of a unit of chain
| (2) Must equal the curvature into the strain.
|
| Thus managing cause and effect to discriminate,
| The student must fruitlessly try to eliminate,
| And painfully learn, that in order to do it, he
| Must find the Equation of Continuity.
| The reason is this, that the tough little element,
| Which the force of impulsion to beat to a jelly meant,
|
| Was endowed with a property incomprehensible,
| And was "given," in the language of Shop, "inextensible."
| It therefore with such pertinacity odd defied
| The force which the length of the chain should have modified,
| That its stubborn example may possibly yet recall
| These overgrown rhymes to their prosody metrical.
|
| The condition is got by resolving again,
| According to axes assumed in the plane.
| If then you reduce to the tangent and normal,
| (3) You will find the equation more neat tho' less formal. [627]
| (4) The condition thus found after these preparations,
| When duly combined with the former equations,
|
| Will give you another, in which differentials
| (5) (When the chain forms a circle), become in essentials
| No harder than those that we easily solve
| (6) In the time a T totum would take to revolve.
| Now joyfully leaving ds to itself, a-
| Ttend to the values of T and of a.
|
| The chain undergoes a distorting convulsion,
| Produced first at A by the force of impulsion.
| In magnitude R, in direction tangential,
| (7) Equating this R to the form exponential,
| Obtained for the tension when a is zero,
| It will measure the tug, such a tug as the "hero
|
| Plume-waving" experienced, tied to the chariot.
| But when dragged by the heels his grim head could not carry aught,
| (8) So give a its due at the end of the chain,
| And the tension ought there to be zero again.
| From these two conditions we get three equations,
| Which serve to determine the proper relations
|
| Between the first impulse and each coefficient
| In the form for the tension, and this is sufficient
| To work out the problem, and then, if you choose,
| You may turn it and twist it the Dons to amuse.
|
| * Equations referred to not list as they were graphics.
|
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Old November 27th 06, 11:34 PM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy
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"Sorcerer" wrote in message
k...

"Tom Potter" wrote in message
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| "Double-A" wrote in message
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| The Vampyre
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| Thair is a knichte rydis through the wood,
| And a doughty knichte is tree,
|
| "Double-A" makes a good point

Standard Potty term for "Potty wants to rant something".

Double-A didn't make a point or even try to, he quoted a poem, Potty.


Don't be so naive "Sorcerer".

As you should know, Double-A
is an Einstein worshipper,
and an apologist for Israel's crimes against humanity.

He was trying to convey a false impression of Maxwell,
(In order to make Einstein look better.)
and I just tried to set the record straight.

I am sure that hanson got the point
I was making.

Anyone who has studied the history of physics
understands that Maxwell was the father of modern physics.

Maxwell introduced "Dimensional Analysis"
which is the standard against which ALL physics models must be tested.

Maths are languages.
Equations are sentences.
Units are politics.
Dimensional Analysis is physics.
( If a model doesn't fit Maxwell's Dimensions, it is not correct.)

Secondly, Maxwell established the framework for Quantum Mechanics
when he showed that statistics, rather than two-body math,
is required to model multi-body systems.

Thirdly, Maxwell established the framework for modern atomic theory
by postulating dimensionless points, and assembling the
points into atoms, molecules, and larger structures,
while leaving room for finer complex assembles of points
such as quarks and neutrinos.

Fourthly, Maxwell laid the ground work for the Bose-Einstein and Fermi-Dirac
distributions,
which are slight modifications of Maxwell's distribution
to account for the separation of matter into two classes,
bosons and fermions.

Fifthly, Einstein's much touted paper on Brownian movement
is a variation of Maxwell's more comprehensive treatment of the
velocity distribution of particles.

As can be seen,
Double-A gets all bent out of shape
when I compare Einstein to Maxwell.
The last two times I did,
he tried to get me elected to some kook award.

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Old November 28th 06, 12:50 AM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy
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Default The relation between refractive index and dielectric constant ?



You snipped my response, Potty. **** you too, arsehole.


"Tom Potter" wrote in message
.. .
|
| "Double-A" wrote in message
| oups.com...
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| The Vampyre
|
| Thair is a knichte rydis through the wood,
| And a doughty knichte is tree,
|
| "Double-A" makes a good point

Standard Potty term for "Potty wants to rant something".

Double-A didn't make a point or even try to, he quoted a poem, Potty.

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.


And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!


One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.


"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.




`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

Did I make a "good point", Potty?

You confuse Scottish pidgin with English, Potty.

This is "old English":

LAW I.
Every body perseveres in its state of rest, or of uniform motion in a right
line, unless it is compelled to change that state by forces impressed
thereon.

Isaac Newton's Principia 1687, Translated by Andrew Motte 1729
BECAUSE NEWTON WROTE IT IN LATIN, the universal lingua franca of European
academia.


Did I make a "good point", Potty?
Let me make another.
Nos a Bore

Ar noswaith ddrycinog mi euthum i rodio
Ar lannau y Fenai gan ddistaw fyfyrio;
Y gwynt oedd yn uchel, a gwyllt oedd y wendon,
A’r môr oedd yn lluchio dros waliau Caernarfon.

Ond trannoeth y bore mi euthum i rodio
Hyd lannau y Fenai, tawelwch oedd yno;
Y gwynt oedd yn ddistaw, a’r môr oedd yn dirion,
A’r haul oedd yn twrynnu ar waliau Caernarfon.



Night and Morning

One night of tempest I arose and went
Along the Menai shore on dreaming bent;
The wind was strong, and savage swung the tide,
And the waves blustered on Caernarfon side.

But on the morrow, when I passed that way,
On Menai shore the hush of heaven lay;
The wind was gentle and the sea a flower,
And the sun slumbered on Caernarfon tower.

|
| Maxwell's friends observed that he
| seemed to know everything about everything.


In other words they were an ignorant bunch, you'd fit in well with them.

Androcles.







 




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