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Magnetic fields outside Galactic Clusters from Dark Matter?
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Can dark matter composing of some dark substance can be the sources of magnetic field in the middle of nowhere like outside galactic clusters? We are told that dark matter only interact with matter in the gravitational department. What if electromagnetic too and in subtle way? Refute this. |
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Magnetic fields outside Galactic Clusters from Dark Matter?
donna wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8e6_1...58&to_friend=1 Can dark matter composing of some dark substance can be the sources of magnetic field in the middle of nowhere like outside galactic clusters? We are told that dark matter only interact with matter in the gravitational department. What if electromagnetic too and in subtle way? Refute this. Now if it interacted with(electro) magnetism somehow, it would not be dark matter, would it? The fact that it is called dark matter, is because it does NOT interact, and therefore is invisible. Only by the fact that space is found to curve light in places where there is no visible galaxy, shows that something is there, even though no visible stuff shows. |
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Magnetic fields outside Galactic Clusters from Dark Matter?
On 12/20/10 10:21 PM, donna wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8e6_1...58&to_friend=1 Can dark matter composing of some dark substance can be the sources of magnetic field in the middle of nowhere like outside galactic clusters? No. See Maxwell's equations. Dark Matter appears not to interact electromagnetically. |
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Magnetic fields outside Galactic Clusters from Dark Matter?
http://www.universetoday.com/15856/a...than-expected/
The above is another news of how magnetic fields were in the universe and stronger than thought. Going to Dark Matter. While it is true that dark matter is called dark because they thought it didn't interact electromagnetically. What if it does? Very very weakly interacting such that it can manifest on a galactic scale? Let's say dark matter is made up of certain dark baryons that interact with themselves and in certain configuration can give rise to dark electromagnetic wave... now this dark em wave thru certain configuration can become normal em wave. How do you refute this? Just as normal matter can cause em wave... dark matter has its own dark em wave.. and because of some symmetric breaking.. coupling between these two kinds of em wave is possible. This means there is separate maxwell equations for dark em wave. On Dec 21, 12:51*pm, Sam Wormley wrote: On 12/20/10 10:21 PM, donna wrote: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8e6_1...58&to_friend=1 Can dark matter composing of some dark substance can be the sources of magnetic field in the middle of nowhere like outside galactic clusters? * *No. See Maxwell's equations. Dark Matter appears not to interact * *electromagnetically. |
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Magnetic fields outside Galactic Clusters from Dark Matter?
On 12/20/10 11:03 PM, donna wrote:
Let's say dark matter is made up of certain dark baryons... See: http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~heroux/im...icle_chart.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model Baryons are composed of three quarks. There are no stable free uncharged baryon. Charged baryon interact electromagnetically. |
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Magnetic fields outside Galactic Clusters from Dark Matter?
On Dec 21, 1:20*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 12/20/10 11:03 PM, donna wrote: Let's say dark matter is made up of certain dark baryons... * *See:http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~heroux/im...icle_chart.jpg * * * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model * *Baryons are composed of three quarks. There are no stable free * *uncharged baryon. Charged baryon interact electromagnetically. What I meant to say was dark matter could be made up of q-balls.. but since you may not be familiar with q-balls.. I mentioned baryons... what are q- balls... according to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-ball "In theoretical physics, Q-ball refers to a type of non-topological soliton. A soliton is a localized field configuration that is stable— it cannot spread out and dissipate."... "A Q-ball arises in a theory of bosonic particles, when there is an attraction between the particles. Loosely speaking, the Q-ball is a finite-sized "blob" containing a large number of particles. The blob is stable against fission into smaller blobs, and against "evaporation" via emission of individual particles, because, due to the attractive interaction, the blob is the lowest-energy configuration of that number of particles." "It has been theorized that dark matter might consist of Q-balls (Frieman et al.. 1988,[6] Kusenko et al.. 1997[7]) " Now dark matter being made of Q-balls... and q-balls could interact with each other forming dark electromagnetism. And these could be sources of the magnetic field in the middle of nowhere in space. This is due to its plasma-like characteristics where it can generate dark magnetic field that can convert to our normal magnetic field in certain configurations. |
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Magnetic fields outside Galactic Clusters from Dark Matter?
On 12/21/10 12:11 AM, donna wrote:
On Dec 21, 1:20 pm, Sam wrote: On 12/20/10 11:03 PM, donna wrote: Let's say dark matter is made up of certain dark baryons... See:http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~heroux/im...icle_chart.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model Baryons are composed of three quarks. There are no stable free uncharged baryon. Charged baryon interact electromagnetically. What I meant to say was dark matter could be made up of q-balls.. but since you may not be familiar with q-balls.. I mentioned baryons... what are q- balls... according to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-ball "In theoretical physics, Q-ball refers to a type of non-topological soliton. A soliton is a localized field configuration that is stable— it cannot spread out and dissipate."... "A Q-ball arises in a theory of bosonic particles, when there is an attraction between the particles. Loosely speaking, the Q-ball is a finite-sized "blob" containing a large number of particles. The blob is stable against fission into smaller blobs, and against "evaporation" via emission of individual particles, because, due to the attractive interaction, the blob is the lowest-energy configuration of that number of particles." "It has been theorized that dark matter might consist of Q-balls (Frieman et al.. 1988,[6] Kusenko et al.. 1997[7]) " Now dark matter being made of Q-balls... and q-balls could interact with each other forming dark electromagnetism. And these could be sources of the magnetic field in the middle of nowhere in space. This is due to its plasma-like characteristics where it can generate dark magnetic field that can convert to our normal magnetic field in certain configurations. OK - Thanks for the clarification. |
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Magnetic fields outside Galactic Clusters from Dark Matter?
"Sam Wormley" wrote in message ... On 12/20/10 11:03 PM, donna wrote: Let's say dark matter is made up of certain dark baryons... See: http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~heroux/im...icle_chart.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model Baryons are composed of three quarks. There are no stable free uncharged baryon. Somebody should tell the neutron that it doesn't exist. Charged baryon interact electromagnetically. |
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Magnetic fields outside Galactic Clusters from Dark Matter?
On Dec 20, 8:21*pm, donna wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8e6_1...58&to_friend=1 Can dark matter composing of some dark substance can be the sources of magnetic field in the middle of nowhere like outside galactic clusters? We are told that dark matter only interact with matter in the gravitational department. What if electromagnetic too and in subtle way? Refute this. Electromagnetism is not magic. Dark matter simply does not interact electromagnetically. |
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Magnetic fields outside Galactic Clusters from Dark Matter?
On Dec 20, 10:11*pm, donna wrote:
On Dec 21, 1:20*pm, Sam Wormley wrote: On 12/20/10 11:03 PM, donna wrote: Let's say dark matter is made up of certain dark baryons... * *See:http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~heroux/im...icle_chart.jpg * * * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model * *Baryons are composed of three quarks. There are no stable free * *uncharged baryon. Charged baryon interact electromagnetically. What I meant to say *was dark matter could be made up of q-balls.. but since you may not be familiar with q-balls.. I mentioned baryons... what are q- balls... *according to wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-ball "In theoretical physics, Q-ball refers to a type of non-topological soliton. A soliton is a localized field configuration that is stable— it cannot spread out and dissipate."... "A Q-ball arises in a theory of bosonic particles, when there is an attraction between the particles. Loosely speaking, the Q-ball is a finite-sized "blob" containing a large number of particles. The blob is stable against fission into smaller blobs, and against "evaporation" via emission of individual particles, because, due to the attractive interaction, the blob is the lowest-energy configuration of that number of particles." "It has been theorized that dark matter might consist of Q-balls (Frieman et al.. 1988,[6] Kusenko et al.. 1997[7]) " Now dark matter being made of Q-balls... and q-balls could interact with each other forming dark electromagnetism. Let's see, Q-balls comprise large (what value of "large"?) numbers of bosons with an attractive interaction. That lets out photons except for ridiculously high flux. I'm not convinced gravitons (or gravitinos) exist at all but if they do, I'm fairly sure that they can form Q-balls. The weak nuclear force and the color force are (allegedly) only short-range. Q-balls made up solely of weak bosons would have mass and various values of spin, and can take various values of electric charge. They'd also have very obvious magnetic fields. Can gluons exist without quarks to terminate them? If so, gluonic Q- balls are possible. And these could be sources of the magnetic field in the middle of nowhere in space. This is due to its plasma-like characteristics where it can generate dark magnetic field that can convert to our normal magnetic field in certain configurations. You're suggesting that Q-ball currents will produce "dark" Q- magnetic fields (to coin a phrase) the way ordinary charge currents produce ordinary magnetic fields? And that by some natural process(es) Q-magnetic fields can convert to observable electromagnetic fields? How would you characterize those Q-fields? Gluonic Q-balls should be electrically neutral and color neutral, but have positive mass, spin, and possibly weak charge. What happens when something like that is accelerated? What *can* accelerate it to produce a current of it in the first place? Bottom line for me, how does one build an Q-magnetic-to- electromagnetic field transducer (telescope)? Mark L. Fergerson |
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