"Apollo Hoax" Debunkery -- stars in the Apollo-16 UV telescope images

Apollo hoaxists have often claimed that stars were NOT faked
in the skies of the moon pictures because NASA figured that
amateur astronomers would soon be able to locate the
REAL star fields that SHOULD have been seen, and
expose NASA's clumsy fakes. As if NASA, having chosen
to fake the moon flight, would have been unable to calculate
what stars should have been visible in a 'faked' scene.

Irrational and insane, as typical of the 'hoaxist' crowd....

Well, there is a set of REAL 'star pictures' from the lunar
surface, Apollo-16's UV telescope-camera, and I've always
felt that it would be easy enough for talented amateurs
(or high school kids verifying the validity of the images) to
calculate the theoretical starfield and compare it to the
actual photographs and see, really, if the stars were in
the right places.

Astronomer Bill Keel in Alabama took up the challenge
and determined that yes, the stars are in the right places,
and yes, high school kids should be able to prove this
for themselves.

See his "random topics" section of his home page,
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/,
and go to the link "Identification of stars seen in the
background of the ultraviolet pictures of the Earth
taken with the Carruthers UV camera from Apollo 16
on the lunar surface."

Nice work, Bill!

Apollo hoax promoters, burn in starfire!


Jim O

The Apollo moon landings were a total sham. Don't be so gullible.

http://www.postpositive.org


Apollo hoaxists have often claimed that stars were NOT faked
in the skies of the moon pictures because NASA figured that
amateur astronomers would soon be able to locate the
REAL star fields that SHOULD have been seen, and
expose NASA's clumsy fakes. As if NASA, having chosen
to fake the moon flight, would have been unable to calculate
what stars should have been visible in a 'faked' scene.

Irrational and insane, as typical of the 'hoaxist' crowd....

Well, there is a set of REAL 'star pictures' from the lunar
surface, Apollo-16's UV telescope-camera, and I've always
felt that it would be easy enough for talented amateurs
(or high school kids verifying the validity of the images) to
calculate the theoretical starfield and compare it to the
actual photographs and see, really, if the stars were in
the right places.

Astronomer Bill Keel in Alabama took up the challenge
and determined that yes, the stars are in the right places,
and yes, high school kids should be able to prove this
for themselves.

See his "random topics" section of his home page,
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/,
and go to the link "Identification of stars seen in the
background of the ultraviolet pictures of the Earth
taken with the Carruthers UV camera from Apollo 16
on the lunar surface."

Nice work, Bill!

Apollo hoax promoters, burn in starfire!


Jim O

Three decades later, you now offer this evidence?!??
How convenient! Where were these UV star pictures
all this time? Do you have a credible and documented
"chain of custody" for this evidence?"

That you would now bring it up weakens your case considerably.

Jim Oberg wrote:
Apollo hoaxists have often claimed that stars were NOT faked
in the skies of the moon pictures because NASA figured that
amateur astronomers would soon be able to locate the
REAL star fields that SHOULD have been seen, and
expose NASA's clumsy fakes. As if NASA, having chosen
to fake the moon flight, would have been unable to calculate
what stars should have been visible in a 'faked' scene.

Or, it was a rushed job, and someone decided to let it slip.

[ snip ]

Jim Oberg wrote:

See his "random topics" section of his home page,
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/,
and go to the link "Identification of stars seen in the
background of the ultraviolet pictures of the Earth
taken with the Carruthers UV camera from Apollo 16
on the lunar surface."



That's a neat shot of the Earth; is the lighting effect in the night
area due to reflected Moonlight?
Also, is the odd illuminated area at the southern end of the terminator
related to the Antarctic ice cap?

Pat

"Starman" wrote in message
k...
They were real, the only total sham here is you !

but maybe somebody (FOX) has made you gullible

"deko" skrev i en meddelelse
...
The Apollo moon landings were a total sham. Don't be so gullible.

http://www.postpositive.org


How would you know? Would it be fair to ask of a view the flag that was
stuck in the moon?

NASA claims to be able to see the Big Bang from 13 billion years ago, yet
can't give us a pic of the flag in/on the moon a mere 200,000 miles away
from Earth?



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Roger Coppock wrote:

Three decades later, you now offer this evidence?!??
How convenient! Where were these UV star pictures
all this time? Do you have a credible and documented
"chain of custody" for this evidence?"

That you would now bring it up weakens your case considerably.






How old were you when Apollo 11 flew? The age demographics of Moon
hoaxers fascinate me.
Also, who really did shoot Kennedy?
Me, I think it was Elvis. :-D

Pat

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:55:21 GMT, "ctyguy" wrote:


"Starman" wrote in message
. dk...
They were real, the only total sham here is you !

but maybe somebody (FOX) has made you gullible

"deko" skrev i en meddelelse
...
The Apollo moon landings were a total sham. Don't be so gullible.

http://www.postpositive.org


How would you know? Would it be fair to ask of a view the flag that was
stuck in the moon?

NASA claims to be able to see the Big Bang from 13 billion years ago, yet
can't give us a pic of the flag in/on the moon a mere 200,000 miles away
from Earth?

Here you go, from NASA;
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/flag...s/moonflag.gif

Phil
--
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American
public.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

"ctyguy" wrote in message
ink.net...

NASA claims to be able to see the Big Bang from 13 billion years ago, yet
can't give us a pic of the flag in/on the moon a mere 200,000 miles away
from Earth?


Correct.

Next question.




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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 20:25:45 GMT, "Jim Oberg" wrote:


Please post to sci.space.history and alt.conspiracy separately,
rather than crossposting. We get enough wackos here already.

Thanks,
Dale

"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
oups.com...
Three decades later, you now offer this evidence?!??
How convenient! Where were these UV star pictures
all this time?

They've been *freely available* for over thirty years. It just wasn't
convenience for the hoax loons to check out evidence that would conflict
with their beliefs.

Do you have a credible and documented
"chain of custody" for this evidence?"

Sure. But since the hoax loons already have a problem with reality, there's
no reason to believe you wouldn't claim it was false as well.

That you would now bring it up weakens your case considerably.

The hoax loons refusal to do it after more than three decades says a great
deal about their dedication to the truth. I have no obligation to do your
homework for you.