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Old July 17th 04, 07:51 PM
Alain Fournier
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janet santana wrote:

DrPostman wrote in message . ..

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:35:18 -0400, "Jonathan"
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[snip great old memories]


We copy you down, eagle.



Houston, tranquility base here. The eagle has landed.



I was 10 years old, it was after Midnight, my dad and me
watched with rapt attention. Great memories all the way
around. Thanks for the reminder.



I was 17. I watched it live in Central Park.


I was 9, moving across Canada with my family. At the time
not all hotels had television. It was always absolutely
necessary to make sure that we would have a television set
available for the next major event of the mission. So when
we were in low population density areas we wouldn't take
any chances and stop at a hotel with televisions even if
the next major event was still hours away. That would allow
us to travel only small hops on most days. Great memories.

Alain Fournier

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Old July 18th 04, 04:09 AM
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"DrPostman" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:35:18 -0400, "Jonathan"
wrote:

SNIP ....

I was 10 years old, it was after Midnight, my dad and me
watched with rapt attention. Great memories all the way
around. Thanks for the reminder.

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I was in my late 20s. We were having dinner in Big Piney, Wyoming, USA
after having roamed all day in God,s Country with Ma T paying the bills.
God I miss the fishing we did, after a days work, just before going in to
eat.

;-)
Bob


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Old July 19th 04, 12:20 AM
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:08:40 GMT, vonroach
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:35:30 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
wrote:

Alan Erskine
We can get people to the Moon in five years,
not the fifteen GWB proposes.


But can we afford their tickets?

Give NASA a real challenge


Do it with maximum safety, not just speed.


Actually, that depends on who we're sending first.

(Not sure why this was cross-posted to poetry groups, so I snecked
'em)
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Old July 20th 04, 06:26 AM
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On 19 Jul 2004 21:55:31 -0700, (don findlay) wrote in
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"Paul Lawler" wrote in message ink.net...
On 19 Jul 2004 04:26:13 -0500, "Rainbow Plotkin"
wrote:
On 2004-07-19
said:
"Jonathan" wrote:

We copy you down, eagle.

Houston, tranquility base here. The eagle has landed.

I was 15 years old and attending the Boy Scout National Jamboree in
Cour d'Alene Idaho. They showed it to thousands of scouts on a
giant screen in the outdoor amphitheater.

Uhh...son, you must be a bit confused. The Coeur d'Alene
amphitheater wasn't even built until years later.

And there sure as h*ll weren't any "giant screens" around
at the time. Not in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, anyway.

Don't know what kind of substances you're droppin', maaan,
but I WANT some.


Hey c'mon... my memory isn't that bad. It wasn't "the" Coeur d'Alene
amphitheater... it was a (temporary) outdoor amphitheater at the Boy Scout
Jamboree which was not in town, it was out in the woods. The giant screen
was also temporary. This is not like an alien abduction scenario... there
were thousands of scouts there with me. I'm sure I have pictures in a box
someplace if that will help you.


(....'subduction' ...he means 'alien subduction'..)


Is that where the aliens kidnap people and then jam them into the
cracks between the continental plates? That would be mega-cool. I'd
like to have that on DVD.
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Old July 21st 04, 01:25 AM
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:58:31 GMT, Rand Simberg
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Though now you've piqued my interest. Goat? Sheep? What was it?


Had to be a cat. :-)

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Old July 21st 04, 01:27 AM
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Now officially, if you reached that point and
weren't actually on the ground yet, you were supposed to abort --
otherwise you lost your escape route -- but in practice, most of the
Apollo CDRs would probably have said "don't bother me, I'm busy landing"
and carried on to touchdown.




We're talking about a surface that no one was familiar with.


Not totally unfamiliar, in that a few surveyor landing moon
probes (and some of the Russian probes) demonstrated that the
lunar surface could in fact support spacecraft. There was some
concern that that Moon might be covered by a thick layer of fluff.

But Neil had to hunt around some to find a clear spot without
big rocks to land on.

How bad a landing could the LM take and still have a flyable
ascent stage? Say the legs got busted up so forget about the
moon walks.

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Old July 21st 04, 01:35 AM
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:27:45 GMT, Robert Casey
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Now officially, if you reached that point and
weren't actually on the ground yet, you were supposed to abort --
otherwise you lost your escape route -- but in practice, most of the
Apollo CDRs would probably have said "don't bother me, I'm busy landing"
and carried on to touchdown.




We're talking about a surface that no one was familiar with.


Not totally unfamiliar, in that a few surveyor landing moon
probes (and some of the Russian probes) demonstrated that the
lunar surface could in fact support spacecraft. There was some
concern that that Moon might be covered by a thick layer of fluff.


Or thick with cheese



But Neil had to hunt around some to find a clear spot without
big rocks to land on.


That's what I was addressing. The first spot turned out to be
too rough.


How bad a landing could the LM take and still have a flyable
ascent stage? Say the legs got busted up so forget about the
moon walks.



I bet they could have made adjustments if the legs snapped. With
the low gravity it wouldn't have been that difficult to set up the
LM so that it could return.





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Old July 21st 04, 01:07 PM
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In sci.space.policy Robert Casey wrote:
Now officially, if you reached that point and
weren't actually on the ground yet, you were supposed to abort --
otherwise you lost your escape route -- but in practice, most of the
Apollo CDRs would probably have said "don't bother me, I'm busy landing"
and carried on to touchdown.


How bad a landing could the LM take and still have a flyable
ascent stage? Say the legs got busted up so forget about the
moon walks.


I should probably look this up...
Is the LM light enough that it could be manhandled to a flat spot, if
(for example) a leg broke, it it landed intact on a large rock.

How vertical did the ascent stage need to be?


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Old July 22nd 04, 01:30 AM
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I should probably look this up...
Is the LM light enough that it could be manhandled to a flat spot, if
(for example) a leg broke, it it landed intact on a large rock.


I don't think it was that light, even under lunar gravity.
Also the astronauts might not be in great shape if they did
take a hard landing...

How vertical did the ascent stage need to be?


IIRC something like 10 degrees off vertical. Which doesn't
seem like much considering that the landing field isn't a
paved airport. Must have been more than that.




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Old July 22nd 04, 05:53 AM
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In article ,
Robert Casey wrote:
How bad a landing could the LM take and still have a flyable
ascent stage? Say the legs got busted up so forget about the
moon walks.


If you were willing to make an emergency departure, leaving at once, I
believe there is basically nothing in the descent stage that has to be
working after touchdown. (To a considerable extent this is by design:
the ascent stage is the backup for various kinds of descent-stage
failures.) About the only real requirement is that the LM not be
tilted too badly.
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