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Old October 24th 04, 03:46 PM
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So you're saying bring in a small number of asteroids, one at a time,
then somehow use them as rocket fuel to build up toward a bigger
object? I don't understand this idea, please explain.


Exactly.


In more detail, something I did a few years back:

http://www.geocities.com/alexterrell.../Routemap4.doc

or via the intro if the above link doesn't work:

Thank you Alex for sharing that very detailed and fascinating insight.
BTW, the first link you supplied works just fine. Clearly, yourself
and Mark Prado went into a great deal of detail in your studies and I
hope you were appropriately rewarded at the time?!

Equally, I sincerely appreciate how frustrated we all feel when so
much painstaking effort goes into a research document of this kind and
it never gets implemented. I'm sure this will prove useful to a future
generation some day...
Keep up the good work (as they say!)

Abdul Ahad
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Old October 24th 04, 07:44 PM
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(AA Institute) wrote in message . com...
(Alex Terrell) wrote in message . com...
(AA Institute) wrote in message . com...


So you're saying bring in a small number of asteroids, one at a time,
then somehow use them as rocket fuel to build up toward a bigger
object? I don't understand this idea, please explain.


Exactly.


In more detail, something I did a few years back:

http://www.geocities.com/alexterrell.../Routemap4.doc

or via the intro if the above link doesn't work:

Thank you Alex for sharing that very detailed and fascinating insight.
BTW, the first link you supplied works just fine. Clearly, yourself
and Mark Prado went into a great deal of detail in your studies and I
hope you were appropriately rewarded at the time?!

Equally, I sincerely appreciate how frustrated we all feel when so
much painstaking effort goes into a research document of this kind and
it never gets implemented. I'm sure this will prove useful to a future
generation some day...
Keep up the good work (as they say!)

Abdul Ahad


Thanks for the compliment. Mark Prado didn't work directly on my
document, though his excellent website was (http://www.permanent.com/)
was most helpful.

The main reward is for myself - putting this down on paper helps get
my thinking straight. Since America's new Constellation direction,
I've started trying to redo this based on lunar resources. This has
confirmed my thinking that NEOs, rather than the moon, should be our
target. That said, the moon as a target is better than no target.

I would like to see more progress. I estimate that by the end of this
century world power demand will be of the order of 50TW. Apart from
SSP, I don't see what else can provide.

Alex
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Old October 25th 04, 06:55 AM
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The main reward is for myself - putting this down on paper helps get


On second thoughts, silly of me to talk of rewards. What rewards? This
business has no rewards. The reward will come when you look up at the
sky one night and you see your little asteroid hab gently gliding
across the sky... with a few lights flashing on its exterior robotic
implementations.

my thinking straight. Since America's new Constellation direction,
I've started trying to redo this based on lunar resources. This has
confirmed my thinking that NEOs, rather than the moon, should be our
target. That said, the moon as a target is better than no target.


The Moon is a totally barren place and very very far away. Personally,
I'm not very convinced by any of its 'claimed' attractions. Still, it
may drive future progress in other, more beneficial directions.
Skipping the Moon altogether and going for a permanent base on Mars
would be the ideal dream thing to do, but that is not going to happen
because of distance and risk. It's plain wishful thinking on the part
of people like Robert Zubrin. But its a nice thought if only... if
only...

So, establishing a well designed high Earth orbiting asteroid colony
is the right thing to do. I wonder if George Bush might have some
second thoughts about his "Moon to Mars" idea, the man must get a few
nightmares just thinking of that ghostly white lunar surface where
nothing ever grows and no rain or rivers flow...

If 5 asteroids of, say Tunguska proportions each, were to impact the
Earth - one on each continent over the next 5 years - then that might
persuade the world to start thinking about building a safe haven off
this planet!

Look at the underlying price trend in a barrel of Brent Crude,
currently topping $60/barrel... once all the oil runs out and there's
economic chaos everywhere, it may be too late to do anything.

Somebody should start on a 'Celestial Titanic' program right away!

Abdul Ahad
 




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