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Old September 27th 17, 09:17 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Gerald Kelleher
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On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 7:56:55 PM UTC+1, Mark Storkamp wrote:
In article ,
Chris L Peterson wrote:

On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 19:42:21 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Tuesday, 26 September 2017 09:39:54 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:56:27 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Sunday, 24 September 2017 06:28:45 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41366504

When A-68 moves clear of its birth position it will reveal seafloor
that probably has not been free of ice cover for 120,000 years - during
the peak of the last warm phase in Earth's history known as the Eemian.

Maybe, finally Hitler is found under the ice sheet? (o:

We are in a warming phase now and have been since the last ice-age ended.

We are riding a very slow natural warming phase since the last
interglacial (we are still in an ice age). On top of that we are
riding a very rapid warming phase which is almost entirely the product
of human activity.

Uh....no.


You are factually in error. Clearly a science denier.


Maybe they teach science differently now than they used to, but I
remember it being:

1. Make observations

2. Develop a theory



A theory is a formalized academic opinion so you grow up, make observations and then try to interpret what you are seeing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTig9gKegQk

The disappearance of Arctic sea ice coincides with the emergence of hurricane season and both contingent on sea temperature conditions. Seasonal is a byword for orbital so you consider carefully what causes the temperatures to fluctuate using the two major dynamics of the Earth.

None of you are 12 years old but then again I have yet to see adults.

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Old September 27th 17, 09:27 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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In article
RichA wrote:

On Tuesday, 26 September 2017 09:39:54 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:56:27 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Sunday, 24 September 2017 06:28:45 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41366504

When A-68 moves clear of its birth position it will reveal seafloor that probably has not been free of ice cover for 120,000 years - during the peak of the last warm phase in Earth's history known as the Eemian.

Maybe, finally Hitler is found under the ice sheet? (o:

We are in a warming phase now and have been since the last ice-age ended.


We are riding a very slow natural warming phase since the last
interglacial (we are still in an ice age). On top of that we are
riding a very rapid warming phase which is almost entirely the product
of human activity.


Uh....no.


Actually, yes.

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Old September 27th 17, 09:53 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Gerald Kelleher
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On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 7:56:55 PM UTC+1, Mark Storkamp wrote:


3. Make predictions based on theory

4. Observe results

5. Revise theory as needed based on new findings.



You and the rest are overgrown kids in this matter and all others. A genuine scientist is not an empiricist with their one-size-fits-all approach so learn from people who actually did accomplish something in the experimental realm and this is one concession that can be made -

"There are then two kinds of intellect: the one able to penetrate acutely and deeply into the conclusions of given premises, and this is the precise intellect; the other able to comprehend a great number of premises without confusing them, and this is the mathematical intellect. The one has force and exactness, the other comprehension. Now the one quality can exist without the other; the intellect can be strong and narrow, and can also be comprehensive and weak." Pascal

From experience with contributors here over the years the perspectives are not just narrow but so limited that any conclusion drawn is there to satisfy a wish rather than an observation.

Most of you are passing time until you die and that is a waste of a life.

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Old September 27th 17, 11:39 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 09:07:32 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 19:42:21 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Tuesday, 26 September 2017 09:39:54 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:56:27 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Sunday, 24 September 2017 06:28:45 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41366504

When A-68 moves clear of its birth position it will reveal seafloor that probably has not been free of ice cover for 120,000 years - during the peak of the last warm phase in Earth's history known as the Eemian.

Maybe, finally Hitler is found under the ice sheet? (o:

We are in a warming phase now and have been since the last ice-age ended.

We are riding a very slow natural warming phase since the last
interglacial (we are still in an ice age). On top of that we are
riding a very rapid warming phase which is almost entirely the product
of human activity.


Uh....no.


You are factually in error. Clearly a science denier.


In the black and white world of leftism where (for example) a minor pass = a rape, it's not hard to think anyone who doesn't believe in the fragile theory of man-made global warming automatically doesn't believe in "science."
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Old September 28th 17, 12:49 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris L Peterson
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Default Big Antarctic iceberg edges out to sea

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:57:01 -0500, Mark Storkamp
wrote:

In article ,
Chris L Peterson wrote:

On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 19:42:21 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Tuesday, 26 September 2017 09:39:54 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:56:27 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Sunday, 24 September 2017 06:28:45 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41366504

When A-68 moves clear of its birth position it will reveal seafloor
that probably has not been free of ice cover for 120,000 years - during
the peak of the last warm phase in Earth's history known as the Eemian.

Maybe, finally Hitler is found under the ice sheet? (o:

We are in a warming phase now and have been since the last ice-age ended.

We are riding a very slow natural warming phase since the last
interglacial (we are still in an ice age). On top of that we are
riding a very rapid warming phase which is almost entirely the product
of human activity.

Uh....no.


You are factually in error. Clearly a science denier.


Maybe they teach science differently now than they used to, but I
remember it being:

1. Make observations

2. Develop a theory

3. Make predictions based on theory

4. Observe results

5. Revise theory as needed based on new findings.

I'm seeing steps 1 through 3 being carried out in 'climate science', but
I'm not seeing much in the way of 4 or 5.


Then you are not keeping up with the science. Existing models produce
predictions which are strongly supported by observations, and where
they are not, the models are being revised and getting better all the
time.

Exactly what science is supposed to do.

That the current heating trend is the product of human activities is
no longer questioned. It has been overwhelmingly confirmed and is
considered beyond reasonable doubt. A fact. At this point, the science
is directed towards improving the resolution of models and removing
the few remaining empirical terms in order to better predict the
extent and magnitude of the effects.
  #16  
Old September 28th 17, 12:50 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris L Peterson
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:39:14 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 09:07:32 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 19:42:21 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Tuesday, 26 September 2017 09:39:54 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:56:27 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Sunday, 24 September 2017 06:28:45 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41366504

When A-68 moves clear of its birth position it will reveal seafloor that probably has not been free of ice cover for 120,000 years - during the peak of the last warm phase in Earth's history known as the Eemian.

Maybe, finally Hitler is found under the ice sheet? (o:

We are in a warming phase now and have been since the last ice-age ended.

We are riding a very slow natural warming phase since the last
interglacial (we are still in an ice age). On top of that we are
riding a very rapid warming phase which is almost entirely the product
of human activity.

Uh....no.


You are factually in error. Clearly a science denier.


In the black and white world of leftism where (for example) a minor pass = a rape, it's not hard to think anyone who doesn't believe in the fragile theory of man-made global warming automatically doesn't believe in "science."


As Tyson has pointed out, the nice thing about science is that it
works whether you believe it or not. If you want to be part of the
flat-earthers, that's your business. The world of actual knowledge has
moved on.
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Old September 28th 17, 06:57 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default Big Antarctic iceberg edges out to sea

On Thursday, 28 September 2017 01:50:05 UTC+2, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:39:14 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

In the black and white world of leftism where (for example) a minor pass = a rape, it's not hard to think anyone who doesn't believe in the fragile theory of man-made global warming automatically doesn't believe in "science."


As Tyson has pointed out, the nice thing about science is that it
works whether you believe it or not. If you want to be part of the
flat-earthers, that's your business. The world of actual knowledge has
moved on.


Don't you wish these "geniuses" [who deny AGW] would list all the other sciences they don't believe in and can easily refute on the back of a napkin?

Does being "Rightist" deny the existence of gravity [for example] so that you may readily fly without any external assistance?

Can you travel at high speed underwater purely by willpower alone?

Are you invulnerable to any injury or disease as a result of your towering intellect?

Can you survive in a vacuum or is vacuity your specialism?

Is a stroll on the local lake a weekend pleasure denied to all others, save yourself?

How are you at conjuring fish? Is your "self-made" wine truly vintage?
Or just barely palatable?

  #18  
Old September 28th 17, 11:02 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Gerald Kelleher
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This reminds me of the socialists and Brexit in the UK as they manage not to discuss the biggest challenges facing the UK at a conference over the last few days. A Labour party conference would be almost indistinguishable from a large dart tournament 30 years ago but now looks like a student union ideology fest and sky blue thinking. The sheer effort to maintain that nothing new is happening by the empiricist community is likewise a sight to behold but sooner or later reality comes calling for academic and social politics.

For anyone involved in astronomy since antiquity there never was a 'flat Earth' but there is an ideology that totally perverts cause and effect -

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap170319.html

What can be said, a stationary Earth where the weather systems move across its face while the circle of illumination pivots on an Earth with a zero degree inclination. This is something a mindless vandal would do to a work of art yet everyone manages to avoid looking at it.

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Old September 28th 17, 04:54 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 19:49:01 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:57:01 -0500, Mark Storkamp
wrote:

In article ,
Chris L Peterson wrote:

On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 19:42:21 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Tuesday, 26 September 2017 09:39:54 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:56:27 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Sunday, 24 September 2017 06:28:45 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41366504

When A-68 moves clear of its birth position it will reveal seafloor
that probably has not been free of ice cover for 120,000 years - during
the peak of the last warm phase in Earth's history known as the Eemian.

Maybe, finally Hitler is found under the ice sheet? (o:

We are in a warming phase now and have been since the last ice-age ended.

We are riding a very slow natural warming phase since the last
interglacial (we are still in an ice age). On top of that we are
riding a very rapid warming phase which is almost entirely the product
of human activity.

Uh....no.

You are factually in error. Clearly a science denier.


Maybe they teach science differently now than they used to, but I
remember it being:

1. Make observations

2. Develop a theory

3. Make predictions based on theory

4. Observe results

5. Revise theory as needed based on new findings.

I'm seeing steps 1 through 3 being carried out in 'climate science', but
I'm not seeing much in the way of 4 or 5.


Then you are not keeping up with the science. Existing models produce
predictions which are strongly supported by observations


Models....Same ones they use that can't even accurately predict weather out 3-4 days.
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Old September 28th 17, 04:57 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
RichA[_6_]
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Default Big Antarctic iceberg edges out to sea

On Thursday, 28 September 2017 01:57:39 UTC-4, Chris.B wrote:
On Thursday, 28 September 2017 01:50:05 UTC+2, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:39:14 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

In the black and white world of leftism where (for example) a minor pass = a rape, it's not hard to think anyone who doesn't believe in the fragile theory of man-made global warming automatically doesn't believe in "science."


As Tyson has pointed out, the nice thing about science is that it
works whether you believe it or not. If you want to be part of the
flat-earthers, that's your business. The world of actual knowledge has
moved on.


Don't you wish these "geniuses" [who deny AGW] would list all the other sciences they don't believe in and can easily refute on the back of a napkin?

Does being "Rightist" deny the existence of gravity [for example] so that you may readily fly without any external assistance?

Can you travel at high speed underwater purely by willpower alone?

Are you invulnerable to any injury or disease as a result of your towering intellect?

Can you survive in a vacuum or is vacuity your specialism?

Is a stroll on the local lake a weekend pleasure denied to all others, save yourself?

How are you at conjuring fish? Is your "self-made" wine truly vintage?
Or just barely palatable?


Like I said, the black and white world of the intolerant leftists who DESPISE hearing any views but their own and who will do anything (witness campus life today) to shut them down.
 




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