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Was there a civilization that existed 13 000 years ago?
STAR NAME: CITY NAME: Betelgeuse Zawyat Al Aryan Rigel Abu Ruwash Bellatrix No city, Army/The Gesh Saiph Birak Al Khiyam M42 No City, Agricultural Fields M43 No City, Agricultural Fields Meissa No City, In the Desert Leporis Ausim, Letopolis, Khem Sirius Heliopolis Alnitak Giza, Nazlet Al Samman Alnilam Giza, Nazlet Al Samman Mintaka Giza, Nazlet Al Samman Well I'm not a fan of myth and legion as of much value in the quest for truths but this is just not plausable if the existing theories of early civilizations are to be concidered valid. Just this one point ..The pyramids in egypt show a symmetry to the constellation of Orion. This is an impossibility if as we are told the Stepped Pyramid was first effort for a kings burial then the Bent was built and was an error on the angles so explains the bent then the Red and Then the Three at Giza built over the rule of three generations... But if you use the star names and match them to a map of the 7 primary stars to the 7 primary pyramids you will find that they match except for polar alignment which is a positional function of precession. If you get a cheap (or expensive, or shareware, or grab a friends cd) of a time variable star map software you can reverse the positional variance of precession back to a point where the constellation and the pyramids are aligned. Also this would have been the visible positions of Orion to an observer at Giza at this matching time... Don't take my word for it ... I'm not making wild claims.. I don't really care if anyone sees the biggy this one is or not.. But I have done just what I suggest anyone do and come up with a plausable explanation for the easily observer and verified weird ****.... Now I might be inclined to ask is there a possible correlation with some measurable aspect of each star with the design and material of each of the different pyramids ... Like does Abu Ruwash with its stepped structure match a structural or emission pattern of Rigel. Also there are 4 stars that show no matching placement but if the remains of even one city is located in the location noted by the star location would that not just be a bit of evidence..... And to get it better understood to the one that sorta said so what in the thread consider that if the Egyptian civilization built to a star map then the planning for a construction project that would outlast 7 generations and maintain precession while being planed during an early point in the development of the civilization for completion in 7 generations in the future... Because if the placements were done based on star position at the time of site selection the placement would show a skew rate due to the next generation building while observing a precessed Orion. Now as I have said before .. I believe in science and the quest for evidence .. I do not Believe in anything.. So if someone have a good explanation for the observed situation I would love to hear a good rational that fits the existing theories ( Which I know very well) |
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Was there a civilization that existed 13 000 years ago?
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 14:00:21 +0100, Doug Weller
wrote in response to the question: ==================================== WAS THERE A CIVILIZATION THAT EXISTED 13,000 YEARS AGO? Gee whiz, Doug, THAT I can't answer. But, I assure you, there WAS a civilization that existed during the time that coal was formed. And, since science dates coal at a minimum of 280,000,000, this would mean this civilization would've been approximately 21,538 times older than the one you're discussing. That, of course, you -- a longtime Pseudo Supreme -- don't want to hear since it gives your ridiculously impossible, factless, facetious Theory of Evolution a kick in the testacles. You and the other pseudos worldwide, their brians sadly corroded by their eagerness to protect their vested interests, have the audacity to call yourself scientists. You -- and they -- wouldn't know scientific truth if you tripped over it. Otherwise, Please have a pleasant day. Ed Conrad ======================================== PHYSICAL EVIDENCE MAN AS OLD AS COAL ========================================= OLDEST HUMAN SKULL EVER FOUND http://www.edconrad.com/images/z11calv.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/images/krogwskull.jpg Wilton Krogman, one of the world's foremost experts on human anatomy, holds what he had identified as a petrified human calvarium, a skull with the eye sockets broken off, that was discovered between Pennsylvania's anthracite veins. He is shown at his desk at the Cooper Clinic in Lancaster, Pa., where moments later he beckoned a colleague -- a medical doctor -- to examine "the oldest human skull ever found." A CATscan was performed on this specimen with favorable results. http://www.edconrad.com/images/catcalv.jpg Meanwhile, Haversian canals were identified in the cell tructue, the tell-tale sign of bone. And dried blood was found on the specimen during testing at American Medical Laboratories in Chantilly, Va. This is the official report from AML which had performed Calculus Analysis by Crystallography. The final report, dated April 21, 2000," was issued by Dr. Nathan Sherman, director of laboratories. "The specimen consists of 1 irregularly shaped, brown calculus weighing less than 0.0010 grams and measuring 1X1X0.5 mm. No nidus is observed. The calculi indicates a composition of dried blood intermingled with a few small crystals resembling calcium oxalate dihydrate." http://www.edconrad.com/images/z12calv.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/images/z13cav.jpg =========================================== OTHER PETRIFIED BONES, TEETH AND SOFT ORGANS FOUND BETWEEN COAL VEINS Here's a petrified human femur still embedded in slate. http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z8femur.jpg Here's a petrified human finger, with fingernail: http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FINGER/MVC-008S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FINGER/MVC-011S.JPG Here's a petrified human toe (with toe nail), found only 10-15 feet from the petrified finger. http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Au29/MVC-017S.JPG Here are the petrified human finger and the petrified human toe shown together. http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Au29/MVC-016S.JP Here's the specimen that Krogman identified as a tibia. It contains Haversian canals, proof of bone, and dried blood was found on it during American Medical Laboratory testing. This is the specimen that was fraudulently tested by Andrew MacRae (who produced microscopic photos of the cell structure of a rock on the false pretext that he was showing the cell structure of this specimen). http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/newtibia.jpg This is the boulder containing the complete human skull. Testing has confirmed the presence of Haversian canals and American Medical Laboratories discovered it contains dried blood. http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/skullb.jpg Here's a petrified human mandible (frontal). http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-002S.JPG Here's a portion of a human mandible (side). http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-006S.JPG Here's a giant petrified tooth. http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/1tooth.jpg Here's a petrified dinosaur foot still embedded in slate. http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/z3dino.jpg Here's a petrified fetus of some large animal. http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-013F.JPG Here's another petrified fetus, still embedded in slate. http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Day/MVC-005S.JPG Here are several views of portion of a giant prehistoric scorpion identified as such by Krogman. http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-001S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-010S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-020S.JPG Here's a photo of the same portion of a petrified giant scorpion -- found 22 years ago -- alongside one found just weeks ago. http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/SCORPIONS/MVC-039S.JPG Here are two views of a piece of wood that appears to have been handcarved for use as a tool or a weapon. http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-003S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-005S.JPG Ed Conrad http://www.edconrad.com |
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Was there a civilization that existed 13 000 years ago?
Ed Conrad wrote in message . ..
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 14:00:21 +0100, Doug Weller wrote in response to the question: ==================================== WAS THERE A CIVILIZATION THAT EXISTED 13,000 YEARS AGO? Ever hear of the Hyperboreans? Double-A |
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Was there a civilization that existed 13 000 years ago?
"Jack" wrote in message ... (Double-A) wrote in message . com... Ed Conrad wrote in message . .. On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 14:00:21 +0100, Doug Weller wrote in response to the question: ==================================== WAS THERE A CIVILIZATION THAT EXISTED 13,000 YEARS AGO? Yes... |
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Was there a civilization that existed 13 000 years ago?
Paul R. Mays wrote: Yes... During the ice age? Where and with what evidence do you believe it? There were humans and human societies 13,000 ybp but did they constitute a civilization in the sense of Egypt or Babylon? Bob Kolker |
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Was there a civilization that existed 13 000 years ago?
==================================== WAS THERE A CIVILIZATION THAT EXISTED 13,000 YEARS AGO? By definition civilization requires cities, so no, there was no civilization 11kBCE. There were cultures, some of them more advanced than others, but no civilizations. If you disagree point to a city that existed then. tom -- We have discovered a therapy ( NOT a cure ) for the common cold. Play tuba for an hour. |
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Was there a civilization that existed 13 000 years ago?
In infinite wisdom Tom Kirke answered: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D WAS THERE A CIVILIZATION THAT EXISTED 13,000 YEARS AGO? =20 By definition civilization requires cities, so no, there was no civilization 11kBCE. I'm not sure about this (this being that civilizations require cities). civ=B7i=B7li=B7za=B7tion (sv-l-zshn) n. 1. An advanced state of intellectual, cultural, and material developm= ent in human society, marked by progress in the arts and sciences, the ex= tensive use of record-keeping, including writing, and the appearance of co= mplex political and social institutions. 2. The type of culture and society developed by a particular nation o= r region or in a particular epoch: Mayan civilization; the civilization of = ancient Rome. 3. The act or process of civilizing or reaching a civilized state. 4. Cultural or intellectual refinement; good taste. 5. Modern society with its conveniences: returned to civilization aft= er camping in the mountains. It seems a very debatable point. There were cultures, some of them more advanced than others, but no civilizations. I think you have it the wrong way round myself. The above is from diction= ary.com and I think it's got it right. If you disagree point to a city that existed then. Trivial (for prehistoric cities, a category you call a null set). http://abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s768954.htm Ruins of 4,300-year-old prehistoric city found in China Chinese archaeologists have discovered the ruins of a prehistoric city dating back an estimated 4,300 years in southwest Sichuan province,= state press said. The find provided evidence that the region along the upper reaches of the Yangtze River, with the Chengdu Plain at the core, played an important role in the origin and development of Chinese civilization, experts said. ------------------------------------- http://www.telesterion.com/catal1.htm CATAL HUYUK The Temple City of Prehistoric Anatolia [...] The oldest layer of Catal Huyuk yet excavated (virgin soil has not bee= n reached) is reliably carbon dated to 6,500 B.C,, and reveals a thriving,= completely developed and planned, city. They existed, their remains exist today. Rich tom =20 |
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