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Great missions STS-122 & Expedition 16
On Feb 20, 5:39 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Feb 20, 2:03 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: On Feb 20, 7:30 am, BradGuth wrote:".." Nice landing today, That was a sweet mission! No argument there, especially since the daunting future of their having to dive through a nasty gauntlet of exploded satellite debris is what pretty much left no other failsafe alternative. BTW, that was also another nice avoidance tactic on behalf of those space camera related questions I'd imposed, so that honest folks simply are not ever given the opportunity to see whatever is coming towards, passing by or going away from Earth, as seen best in UV, although IR could also be interesting. . - Brad Guth Actually that's a pretty weak attempt to reduce the relevance of the Earth Viewing Camera (EVC) which is part of the European Technology Exposure Facility (EuTEF), located on the ISS's Columbus Module. The earth is a very dynamic place and so images like the one below from the expedition 16 image gallery show that the EVC visible spectrum images may attract the interest of many people, possibly even you brad... http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/...16e018385.html International Space Station Imagery ISS016-E-018385 (23 Dec. 2008) --- Luquillo Mountains, Puerto Rico are featured in this image photographed by an Expedition 16 crewmember on the International Space Station. |
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On Feb 20, 7:07 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote: On Feb 20, 5:39 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Feb 20, 2:03 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: On Feb 20, 7:30 am, BradGuth wrote:".." Nice landing today, That was a sweet mission! No argument there, especially since the daunting future of their having to dive through a nasty gauntlet of exploded satellite debris is what pretty much left no other failsafe alternative. BTW, that was also another nice avoidance tactic on behalf of those space camera related questions I'd imposed, so that honest folks simply are not ever given the opportunity to see whatever is coming towards, passing by or going away from Earth, as seen best in UV, although IR could also be interesting. . - Brad Guth Actually that's a pretty weak attempt to reduce the relevance of the Earth Viewing Camera (EVC) which is part of the European Technology Exposure Facility (EuTEF), located on the ISS's Columbus Module. The earth is a very dynamic place and so images like the one below from the expedition 16 image gallery show that the EVC visible spectrum images may attract the interest of many people, possibly even you brad... http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/...-16/html/iss01... International Space Station Imagery ISS016-E-018385 (23 Dec. 2008) --- Luquillo Mountains, Puerto Rico are featured in this image photographed by an Expedition 16 crewmember on the International Space Station. I'm not reducing anything. More of science is usually better, and we are not alone in this universe, not even to mention what's existing/ coexisting on Venus that's worth our looking at. A good CCD camera and especially with mirror optics offers at least a 20 fold DR improvement over film, and with ever smaller pixels is capable of even better resolution than film. The visual spectrum is of course necessary, but it should not continually exclude the IR and UV. We should have a multiple array of said exterior cameras, looking in the directions as controlled by ISS and/or by our terrestrial command (even via internet command), and those should not be limited to using filtered optics as to exclude other than our visual spectrum, although it would be nice and entirely within existing technology for having a few select filters to pick from, as used for whenever it's appropriate to focus upon some specifics of IR or that of the impressive night vision that should be including at least the UV-a spectrum. .. - Brad Guth |
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On Feb 21, 9:36*am, BradGuth wrote:"The visual
spectrum is of course necessary" Our eyes think so as well, thats why its important to have humans on the iss observing the earth... Here check out EarthKam http://www.earthkam.ucsd.edu/ Welcome to NASA ISS EarthKAM! ISS EarthKAM is a NASA sponsored program that provides stunning, high quality photographs of our planet taken from the Space Shuttle and International Space Station. Since 1996, ISS EarthKAM students have taken thousands of photographs of Earth by using the world wide web to direct a digital camera on select space flights and currently on the International Space Station." |
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On Feb 21, 4:54 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote: On Feb 21, 9:36 am, BradGuth wrote:"The visual spectrum is of course necessary" Our eyes think so as well, thats why its important to have humans on the iss observing the earth... What we see with the naked human eye isn't even worth 0.1% of the truth, and above all is that you already know that is the case. Instead you have elected to lie by way of simply excluding science and thus having excluded evidence. BTW, ISS could have been configured as 99% robotic, and in some ways have functioned far better with having to deal with only a few visiting souls from time to time. Here check out EarthKamhttp://www.earthkam.ucsd.edu/ Welcome to NASA ISS EarthKAM! ISS EarthKAM is a NASA sponsored program that provides stunning, high quality photographs of our planet taken from the Space Shuttle and International Space Station. Since 1996, ISS EarthKAM students have taken thousands of photographs of Earth by using the world wide web to direct a digital camera on select space flights and currently on the International Space Station." Again, you're playing the usual pretend-atheists game of hide and seek, as in pretending that nothing of any interest is either coming towards, passing nearby or going away from Earth. What exactly are you and so many others of your brown-nosed kind so deathly afraid of? .. - Brad Guth |
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Great missions STS-122 & Expedition 16
On Feb 21, 8:58*pm, BradGuth wrote:" Instead you
have elected to lie by way of simply excluding science and thus having excluded evidence...BTW, ISS could have been configured as 99% robotic, " huh? here is a great image from expedition 16, and an incredible description from expedition 6, you see brad it is human nature to creatively/subjectively describe events with words that present a feeling to the reader that is far beyond the characters composing the text, and that is why humans must be part of space travel... http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/...16e009407.html STS-120 Shuttle Mission Imagery ISS016-E-009407 (3 Nov. 2007) --- A colorful view of airglow layers at Earth's horizon is featured in this image photographed by an Expedition 16 crewmember on the International Space Station http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/...es/aurora.html "Auroras Dancing in the Night 02.12.04 Aboard the International Space Station, Expedition 6 Science Officer Don Pettit offers a unique perspective on auroras. If Iris, the goddess of the rainbow, had a sister she would be the goddess of Aurora. Glowing green ripples form arcs that constantly transform their shape into new glowing diaphanous forms: there is nothing static about aurora. It is always moving, always changing, and like snowflakes, each display is different from the last. Sometimes, there is a faint touch of red layered above the green. There are bright spots within the arcs that come and go, and transform into upward directed rays topped by feathery red structures. Sometimes there will be six or more rays, sometimes none at all. Where does the auroral light come from? Most of the light is emitted by oxygen atoms excited from bombardment by charged solar particles. Charged particles consisting of atomic fragments released by the Sun stream through space and run into Earth's magnetic field. When a charged particle moves through a magnetic field, a force perpendicular to the motion is created and that force diverts the particle into a spiral path until it collides with atoms in the upper atmosphere. In a sense, auroras are the neon lights of the Earth's poles. The upper atmospheric collisions excite the atoms (oxygen and nitrogen) into emitting light, in much the same way that electrons pumped inside of a glass tube filled with neon gas create a neon light. The green light emitted from excited oxygen is centered around a wavelength of 558 nanometers, while the rarer red light is emitted around wavelengths in the 630 nanometer region. (See what it looks like) Because auroras follow Earth's magnetic field, we observed them near the Earth's poles. Further, we saw auroras more frequently on the Canadian side of the Northern Hemisphere than the Siberian side due to the north magnetic pole lying in the proximity of Hudson Bay. Auroral activity seems to be at its peak 180 degrees from the sun. When our orbit coincided with local midnight at high latitudes, we looked forward to turning down the lights and peering out a north- facing window. From the ISS vantage point at approximately 400 km above the Earth's surface, we observe aurora profiles. The edge-on view in the upper atmosphere allows aurora height scales to be estimated. Using the atmosphere as a ruler where its edge is taken to be about 50 kilometers in altitude, the green emissions extend from the ever present thin-shell of airglow at 2 atmospheric thicknesses (about 100 km altitude) to perhaps 6 atmospheric thicknesses (300 km). The red emissions are at higher altitudes. They lie on top of the green and extend beyond that layer by about 4 atmospheric thicknesses, thus placing them in the 300 to 500 km range. Auroras form large concaved arcs 30 to 70 degrees along the visible horizon with well-defined edges. From this large-scale arc smaller curtain-like structures extend in southerly directions. One time the space station flew through one of these curtains while over northern Canada near local midnight. Our orbital altitude was 388 km. Glowing green lines, some curvy like a doodle on a scrap of paper and some spotted like a connect-the-dot drawing were seen while looking through a nadir-viewing window. We were most definitely above the aurora looking down onto the structure. A glance through the north-facing window was a sight to behold. We were in a dimly glowing fog of red. It was like we had been shrunk down to some miniature dimension and inserted into the tube of a neon sign. And it was just on the other side of the windowpane ... we wanted to reach out and touch! Afterwards, I had to clean a nose print off of the window. For a few days, our viewing geometry was such that we enjoyed a celestial treat: we could see at the same time the green glow of auroras and the iridescent layers of orange and blue of the Earth's horizon at sunset. It was as if Iris and her sister of the night were having a brief conversation. During one orbit, I observed a green aurora in the blackness above the sunlit atmosphere. But a red aurora glowed above the terminator (the fuzzy line on Earth that separates day from night). The red emissions seemed to follow the path of the terminator as it moved westward until it was no longer in sight. I was star-struck! Auroras, out of all other natural phenomena, are the most deserving of goddess stature." |
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On Feb 21, 9:50 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote: On Feb 21, 8:58 pm, BradGuth wrote:" Instead you have elected to lie by way of simply excluding science and thus having excluded evidence...BTW, ISS could have been configured as 99% robotic, " huh? here is a great image from expedition 16, and an incredible description from expedition 6, you see brad it is human nature to creatively/subjectively describe events with words that present a feeling to the reader that is far beyond the characters composing the text, and that is why humans must be part of space travel... http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/...120/html/iss01... STS-120 Shuttle Mission Imagery ISS016-E-009407 (3 Nov. 2007) --- A colorful view of airglow layers at Earth's horizon is featured in this image photographed by an Expedition 16 crewmember on the International Space Station http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/...es/aurora.html "Auroras Dancing in the Night 02.12.04 Aboard the International Space Station, Expedition 6 Science Officer Don Pettit offers a unique perspective on auroras. If Iris, the goddess of the rainbow, had a sister she would be the goddess of Aurora. Glowing green ripples form arcs that constantly transform their shape into new glowing diaphanous forms: there is nothing static about aurora. It is always moving, always changing, and like snowflakes, each display is different from the last. Sometimes, there is a faint touch of red layered above the green. There are bright spots within the arcs that come and go, and transform into upward directed rays topped by feathery red structures. Sometimes there will be six or more rays, sometimes none at all. Where does the auroral light come from? Most of the light is emitted by oxygen atoms excited from bombardment by charged solar particles. Charged particles consisting of atomic fragments released by the Sun stream through space and run into Earth's magnetic field. When a charged particle moves through a magnetic field, a force perpendicular to the motion is created and that force diverts the particle into a spiral path until it collides with atoms in the upper atmosphere. In a sense, auroras are the neon lights of the Earth's poles. The upper atmospheric collisions excite the atoms (oxygen and nitrogen) into emitting light, in much the same way that electrons pumped inside of a glass tube filled with neon gas create a neon light. The green light emitted from excited oxygen is centered around a wavelength of 558 nanometers, while the rarer red light is emitted around wavelengths in the 630 nanometer region. (See what it looks like) Because auroras follow Earth's magnetic field, we observed them near the Earth's poles. Further, we saw auroras more frequently on the Canadian side of the Northern Hemisphere than the Siberian side due to the north magnetic pole lying in the proximity of Hudson Bay. Auroral activity seems to be at its peak 180 degrees from the sun. When our orbit coincided with local midnight at high latitudes, we looked forward to turning down the lights and peering out a north- facing window. From the ISS vantage point at approximately 400 km above the Earth's surface, we observe aurora profiles. The edge-on view in the upper atmosphere allows aurora height scales to be estimated. Using the atmosphere as a ruler where its edge is taken to be about 50 kilometers in altitude, the green emissions extend from the ever present thin-shell of airglow at 2 atmospheric thicknesses (about 100 km altitude) to perhaps 6 atmospheric thicknesses (300 km). The red emissions are at higher altitudes. They lie on top of the green and extend beyond that layer by about 4 atmospheric thicknesses, thus placing them in the 300 to 500 km range. Auroras form large concaved arcs 30 to 70 degrees along the visible horizon with well-defined edges. From this large-scale arc smaller curtain-like structures extend in southerly directions. One time the space station flew through one of these curtains while over northern Canada near local midnight. Our orbital altitude was 388 km. Glowing green lines, some curvy like a doodle on a scrap of paper and some spotted like a connect-the-dot drawing were seen while looking through a nadir-viewing window. We were most definitely above the aurora looking down onto the structure. A glance through the north-facing window was a sight to behold. We were in a dimly glowing fog of red. It was like we had been shrunk down to some miniature dimension and inserted into the tube of a neon sign. And it was just on the other side of the windowpane ... we wanted to reach out and touch! Afterwards, I had to clean a nose print off of the window. For a few days, our viewing geometry was such that we enjoyed a celestial treat: we could see at the same time the green glow of auroras and the iridescent layers of orange and blue of the Earth's horizon at sunset. It was as if Iris and her sister of the night were having a brief conversation. During one orbit, I observed a green aurora in the blackness above the sunlit atmosphere. But a red aurora glowed above the terminator (the fuzzy line on Earth that separates day from night). The red emissions seemed to follow the path of the terminator as it moved westward until it was no longer in sight. I was star-struck! Auroras, out of all other natural phenomena, are the most deserving of goddess stature." You do like our spendy eye-candy, don't you. I'm not talking about eye-candy. I'm talking about real honest to god science, and the discovery of whatever's really happening. Take off the filter that's keeping UV from getting recorded, and otherwise make full use of the dynamic range(DR) of whatever a good CCD can muster. We also need live video as much if not more so than still images. The human visual spectrum simply doesn't detect 0.1% of what's out there to see, but then you're just another rusemaster anyway, so what's the difference as to whatever an unfiltered CCD can detect. Obviously you don't care as long as the whole truth and nothing but the truth simply can't see your faith-based light of day(sort of speak). .. - Brad Guth |
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On Feb 21, 9:50 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote: On Feb 21, 8:58 pm, BradGuth wrote:" Instead you have elected to lie by way of simply excluding science and thus having excluded evidence...BTW, ISS could have been configured as 99% robotic, " huh? here is a great image from expedition 16, and an incredible description from expedition 6, you see brad it is human nature to creatively/subjectively describe events with words that present a feeling to the reader that is far beyond the characters composing the text, and that is why humans must be part of space travel... http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/...120/html/iss01... STS-120 Shuttle Mission Imagery ISS016-E-009407 (3 Nov. 2007) --- A colorful view of airglow layers at Earth's horizon is featured in this image photographed by an Expedition 16 crewmember on the International Space Station http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/...es/aurora.html "Auroras Dancing in the Night 02.12.04 Aboard the International Space Station, Expedition 6 Science Officer Don Pettit offers a unique perspective on auroras. If Iris, the goddess of the rainbow, had a sister she would be the goddess of Aurora. Glowing green ripples form arcs that constantly transform their shape into new glowing diaphanous forms: there is nothing static about aurora. It is always moving, always changing, and like snowflakes, each display is different from the last. Sometimes, there is a faint touch of red layered above the green. There are bright spots within the arcs that come and go, and transform into upward directed rays topped by feathery red structures. Sometimes there will be six or more rays, sometimes none at all. Where does the auroral light come from? Most of the light is emitted by oxygen atoms excited from bombardment by charged solar particles. Charged particles consisting of atomic fragments released by the Sun stream through space and run into Earth's magnetic field. When a charged particle moves through a magnetic field, a force perpendicular to the motion is created and that force diverts the particle into a spiral path until it collides with atoms in the upper atmosphere. In a sense, auroras are the neon lights of the Earth's poles. The upper atmospheric collisions excite the atoms (oxygen and nitrogen) into emitting light, in much the same way that electrons pumped inside of a glass tube filled with neon gas create a neon light. The green light emitted from excited oxygen is centered around a wavelength of 558 nanometers, while the rarer red light is emitted around wavelengths in the 630 nanometer region. (See what it looks like) Because auroras follow Earth's magnetic field, we observed them near the Earth's poles. Further, we saw auroras more frequently on the Canadian side of the Northern Hemisphere than the Siberian side due to the north magnetic pole lying in the proximity of Hudson Bay. Auroral activity seems to be at its peak 180 degrees from the sun. When our orbit coincided with local midnight at high latitudes, we looked forward to turning down the lights and peering out a north- facing window. From the ISS vantage point at approximately 400 km above the Earth's surface, we observe aurora profiles. The edge-on view in the upper atmosphere allows aurora height scales to be estimated. Using the atmosphere as a ruler where its edge is taken to be about 50 kilometers in altitude, the green emissions extend from the ever present thin-shell of airglow at 2 atmospheric thicknesses (about 100 km altitude) to perhaps 6 atmospheric thicknesses (300 km). The red emissions are at higher altitudes. They lie on top of the green and extend beyond that layer by about 4 atmospheric thicknesses, thus placing them in the 300 to 500 km range. Auroras form large concaved arcs 30 to 70 degrees along the visible horizon with well-defined edges. From this large-scale arc smaller curtain-like structures extend in southerly directions. One time the space station flew through one of these curtains while over northern Canada near local midnight. Our orbital altitude was 388 km. Glowing green lines, some curvy like a doodle on a scrap of paper and some spotted like a connect-the-dot drawing were seen while looking through a nadir-viewing window. We were most definitely above the aurora looking down onto the structure. A glance through the north-facing window was a sight to behold. We were in a dimly glowing fog of red. It was like we had been shrunk down to some miniature dimension and inserted into the tube of a neon sign. And it was just on the other side of the windowpane ... we wanted to reach out and touch! Afterwards, I had to clean a nose print off of the window. For a few days, our viewing geometry was such that we enjoyed a celestial treat: we could see at the same time the green glow of auroras and the iridescent layers of orange and blue of the Earth's horizon at sunset. It was as if Iris and her sister of the night were having a brief conversation. During one orbit, I observed a green aurora in the blackness above the sunlit atmosphere. But a red aurora glowed above the terminator (the fuzzy line on Earth that separates day from night). The red emissions seemed to follow the path of the terminator as it moved westward until it was no longer in sight. I was star-struck! Auroras, out of all other natural phenomena, are the most deserving of goddess stature." Obviously, with such impressive eye-candy is why you think we're it, the one and only intelligent species within this universe, and as such we're only allowed to detect upon whatever's within the visual spectrum. Are you nuts, or just Muslim? BTW, notice the color saturation and of them pesky stars above Earth, and Earth isn't even the least bit over saturated, is it. I bet you and others of your silly kind don't even get the drift of what this sort of Kodak DCS760 digital camera dynamic range represents. .. - Brad Guth |
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On Feb 22, 7:36 am, BradGuth wrote:"so what's the
difference as to whatever an unfiltered CCD can detect" Human perception of color. The human eye is not like a ccd, as imaging devices do not process the data in a similar manner as the human brain, for example humans perceive color by comparing the responses from the long cone and medium cones, red/green opponency that determines our "yellow", which is then compared to the amount of short cone response yellow/blue opponency.. Imaging devices that use ccd's or even photomultiplier tubes count photons based on a quantum efficiency of a particular material, which is much different from the synthesis that occurs in the human eye when the retinal pigments (rhodopsin, cyanolabe, cholorlabe, and erythrolabe) are stimulated by light (ccd's do not respond like the human eye). Image capturing devices have wider energy reception ranges than the human eye, but all imaging devices must have their images viewed by either a positive (monitor) device, or be printed as a hard copy, both of which do not possess the ranges of the original capture device, and therefore any image must be modified and adapted through the use of color appearance models and gamut mapping algorithms in order to be viewed. One of the biggest problems with current color appearance models is attempting to mathematically compensate for how the human eye perceives an objects color to be the same, even during changing light conditions (color constancy) and therefore reproducing what the "eye sees" is not very easy, and combines artistry as well as science. Our eyes receive energy in a very specific energy range, but the perception of that energy is not done by analyzing one photon like a ccd does, as that does not resolve how humans perceive how the colors of an object relate to each other. Humans have a unique perception of colors that instruments do not see please see "Newton's extraspectral hues" or check out an artist color wheel (an artist color wheel shows that humans perceive dark reds wrapping around to blues, which mean human color perception connects low energy to high energy in the visible part of the electromagnetic spectrum). Therefore once again it is human nature to creatively/subjectively describe events and sights (an observed events colors) with words that present a feeling to the reader that is far beyond the characters composing the text, and that is why humans must be part of space travel.. http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/...es/aurora.html "Auroras Dancing in the Night 02.12.04 Aboard the International Space Station, Expedition 6 Science Officer Don Pettit offers a unique perspective on auroras. If Iris, the goddess of the rainbow, had a sister she would be the goddess of Aurora. Glowing green ripples form arcs that constantly transform their shape into new glowing diaphanous forms: there is nothing static about aurora. It is always moving, always changing, and like snowflakes, each display is different from the last. Sometimes, there is a faint touch of red layered above the green. " |
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On Feb 22, 9:16 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote: On Feb 22, 7:36 am, BradGuth wrote:"so what's the difference as to whatever an unfiltered CCD can detect" Human perception of color. The human eye is not like a ccd, as imaging devices do not process the data in a similar manner as the human brain, for example humans perceive color by comparing the responses from the long cone and medium cones, red/green opponency that determines our "yellow", which is then compared to the amount of short cone response yellow/blue opponency.. Imaging devices that use ccd's or even photomultiplier tubes count photons based on a quantum efficiency of a particular material, which is much different from the synthesis that occurs in the human eye when the retinal pigments (rhodopsin, cyanolabe, cholorlabe, and erythrolabe) are stimulated by light (ccd's do not respond like the human eye). Image capturing devices have wider energy reception ranges than the human eye, but all imaging devices must have their images viewed by either a positive (monitor) device, or be printed as a hard copy, both of which do not possess the ranges of the original capture device, and therefore any image must be modified and adapted through the use of color appearance models and gamut mapping algorithms in order to be viewed. One of the biggest problems with current color appearance models is attempting to mathematically compensate for how the human eye perceives an objects color to be the same, even during changing light conditions (color constancy) and therefore reproducing what the "eye sees" is not very easy, and combines artistry as well as science. Our eyes receive energy in a very specific energy range, but the perception of that energy is not done by analyzing one photon like a ccd does, as that does not resolve how humans perceive how the colors of an object relate to each other. Humans have a unique perception of colors that instruments do not see please see "Newton's extraspectral hues" or check out an artist color wheel (an artist color wheel shows that humans perceive dark reds wrapping around to blues, which mean human color perception connects low energy to high energy in the visible part of the electromagnetic spectrum). Therefore once again it is human nature to creatively/subjectively describe events and sights (an observed events colors) with words that present a feeling to the reader that is far beyond the characters composing the text, and that is why humans must be part of space travel.. http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/...es/aurora.html "Auroras Dancing in the Night 02.12.04 Aboard the International Space Station, Expedition 6 Science Officer Don Pettit offers a unique perspective on auroras. If Iris, the goddess of the rainbow, had a sister she would be the goddess of Aurora. Glowing green ripples form arcs that constantly transform their shape into new glowing diaphanous forms: there is nothing static about aurora. It is always moving, always changing, and like snowflakes, each display is different from the last. Sometimes, there is a faint touch of red layered above the green. " Another interesting second or third hand rant, even though you are intent upon playing word games, rather than offering us science that can be peer replicated as to what I had previously specified. Via ISS, of somewhat old images of Earth by Kodak DCS760 camera with its 12-bit limited DR(dynamic range), 3032 x 2008 pixels and sensor area: 27.65mm x 18.43mm = 9+ micron pixels. Seems perfectly good enough, whereas truly scientific CCD cameras with nearly that size of pixel and of 16-bit DR should be the norm for anything associated with ISS EVC or DCS760, even if having to be of monochrome and using 3 or 4 specific color spectrum filters for creating the composite colour renditions would be a whole lot better off, although full colour CCD renditions from IR to UV at 16 bit DR can't be all that insurmountable, especially of larger format CCDs having starlight sensitivity and fast enough frame scans for low noise video capture applications, as otherwise with commercial video equipment if need be you can always incorporate three or even four individual CCDs per color video camera. Also remember, as similar results with over-saturating film, except CCDs offer vastly superior spectrum bandwidth that can also have their FWC(full well capacity) exceeded without harm, allowing those other less saturated pixels to better record whatever's dim or of far +/- spectrum items with much greater ease than film. http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/...es/aurora.html "Auroras Dancing in the Night 02.12.04 Aboard the International Space Station, Expedition 6 Science Officer Don Pettit offers a unique perspective on auroras. Obviously, with such impressive eye-candy is why most folks are so easily mislead to think we're it, the one and only intelligent species within this universe, and as such we're so often being fooled into only detecting upon whatever's within the visual spectrum. BTW, notice the color saturation and of them pesky stars above Earth, and to notice Earth isn't even the least bit over saturated, is it. I bet you and others of your silly kind don't even get the drift of what this sort of Kodak DCS760 digital camera dynamic range represents. .. - Brad Guth |
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Via ISS, of somewhat old images of Earth by way of their Kodak DCS760
camera with its 12-bit limited DR(dynamic range), 3032 x 2008 pixels and sensor format area of 27.65mm x 18.43mm = 9+ micron pixels. http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/...es/aurora.html Auroras Dancing in the Night 02.12.04 Aboard the International Space Station, Expedition 6 Science Officer Don Pettit offers a unique perspective on auroras. Seems perfectly good enough eye-candy, whereas truly scientific CCD cameras of the same era with nearly that size of pixel and of 16-bit DR should have been the norm for anything of ISS associated with their EVC or instead of the DCS760, even if having to be of monochrome and using 3 or 4 specific color spectrum filters for creating the composite colour renditions would be a whole lot better science, although full colour CCD renditions from IR to UV at 16 bit DR can't be all that insurmountable, especially of larger format CCDs having starlight sensitivity and fast enough frame scans for low noise video capture applications, as otherwise with commercial video equipment if need be you can always incorporate three or even four individual CCDs per color video camera. Obviously our MESSENGER mission of using CCDs and mirror optics is yet another prime and spendy example of what not to do, because their scientific composite color images were absolutely pathetic, and they could have used another 10X in their telephoto capability. Also remember, as similar results with over-saturating film, except saturated CCD pixels offer vastly superior spectrum bandwidth that can also have their FWC(full well capacity) exceeded without harm, allowing those other less saturated pixels available to better record whatever's dim or of far +/- spectrum items with much greater ease than film because those CCDs exceed in DR as well as in their scope of IR/UV spectrum detection. Obviously, with such impressive eye-candy is why most folks are so easily mislead to think we're it, the one and only intelligent species within this universe, and as such we're so often being fooled into only detecting upon whatever's within the visual spectrum. BTW, notice the 12-bit limited hue/color saturation and of having easily including them pesky stars above Earth, and to notice Earth isn't even the least bit over saturated, is it. http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/...es/aurora.html Too bad there's not the original 18 MB image files to look at, as those images would be absolutely terrific. I bet you and others of your silly infowar of eye-candy spewing kind don't even get the drift of what this sort of Kodak DCS760 digital camera dynamic range represents. Now try to imagine what a 16-bit CCD camera w/o optical spectrum limitations would accomplish, or even by their existing 12-bit if simply having allowed for greater FWC saturation (meaning longer exposure and/or of a lower optical f-stop). .. - Brad Guth |
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