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"Jeff Findley" wrote: Because it would likely be cheaper and faster than any US solution to regenerative O2 production. The Russians would be doing the overhaul, the US shuttle would just be used for transportation. I believe I read somewhere that an Elektron is 300 lbs. That's not very much extra mass to put into an MPLM for a ride up. As for the ride down, the MPLM is already used for disposing of trash. The American OGA (Oxygen Generator Assembly) was in dev testing as far back as the late 80's. Testing continued all the way through the early '90's when the design was finalized and the developer went through its CDR - I seem to recall that all but a few RIDs were closed out before SSF transmorgrified into ISS. I'd bet lots of money that the U.S. qual unit is sitting in a warehouse at MSFC if it's not actually being used in a closed-loop development lab somewhere. I think (but I don't recall) that it weighed less than 300 pounds, too. Also, the U.S. ECLSS racks were spec'd (and built, I hope) to be stubbed out to simply plug in the OGA and a CO2 Reduction Assembly unit, funding permitting their fabrication and launch. I'd bet lots of money that the dev units for that one are lying around somewhere, too. We can thank this whole mess on the short-sightedness of Congress and NASA HQ for cutting these two units out of the program baseline in 1993. *sigh* -- Herb Schaltegger, B.S., J.D. "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity." ~ Robert A. Heinlein http://www.angryherb.net |
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Jeff Findley wrote: While this is true, there are still ground units that the Russians operate on the ground (for training, testing, and the like) in addition to the ones on ISS. I'm sure that there are plenty of engineers that understand these units to some degree. Send it to China; they'll copy it with 4 times the reliability, and 1/4 the price. Pat |
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"Jeff Findley" wrote:
Look at the number of "classic cars" that are still on the road despite the fact that their manufacturers are long gone... They have what Elektron doesn't.... They were built to be worked on with standard tools, they have an enormous amount of 'junkers' around to scavenge for parts, they have a large number of 3rd party manufacturers making parts, they have tens of thousands of enthusiasts..... D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message ... Had people been predicting a Russian calamity, you'd have a point. Instead, as usual so far, you confuse drug addled hallucinations for reality. Derek, No offense, but what is it with you and drugs lately? Seems like every other post of yours has some reference to "drug addled...." D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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"Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote:
"Derek Lyons" wrote in message ... Had people been predicting a Russian calamity, you'd have a point. Instead, as usual so far, you confuse drug addled hallucinations for reality. Derek, No offense, but what is it with you and drugs lately? Seems like every other post of yours has some reference to "drug addled...." I'm in a great deal of pain, and on them myself... That and I cannot imagine how this idividual can otherwise spout the nonsense he does. This guy is the anti-Bbo, Bbo spews nothing but dark scenarios and this nothing but 'dontworrybehappy'. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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