Testing one stromatolite data from China with my linear extrapolationof Pannella's fossil points

Hi,

I noticed one publication about ancient time data from China:

QU Yuangao, XIE Guwei and GONG Yiming, 2004.
Relationship between Earth-Sun-Moon 1000 Ma ago:
Evidence from the stromatolites.
Chinese Science Bulletin, 2004, Vol. 49, No. 21, 2288-2295.


Writers result which they counted from the stromatolite was:

1000 Ma:
------------

516 +- 20 days/year,

40 days/month (38.5 - 40 days/month in the paper mentioned also),

24* 365.25 / (516 +-20) = 16.99 +-0.66 hours/day

(516 +-20) / 40 = 12.9 +-0.5 months/year

(516 +-20) / 38.5 = 13.4 +-0.5 (this was not mentioned in the text).

My linear extrapolation figures of Pannella's fossil data would give:

1000 Ma:
------------

about 455 days/year,

about 33.6 days/month,

about 19.4 hours/day, ( about 24* 365.2422 / 455 = about 19.3),

about 455 / 33.6 = about 13.5 months/year,

One possible conclusion about writers data:

The stromatolites used in the above reference are not
suitable for ancient time counting, if age determination is
correct and accurate enough ???

When I investigated stromatolites for ancient time counting
I found only few reliable stromatolites for such purposes:

The Gunflint Formation stromatolite YPM-IP-28511/28510
exact age of which was 1878.3 +-1.3 Ma.
Mode= 18 - 36, Highest Count= 39.

36 - 39 mean solar days per tropical year.

Fortnights per tropical year= 28 ( which means
14 synodic months per tropical year).

From these: 504 - 546 mean solar days per tropical year.

and

The Bulawayan stromatolite UCLA-Bul-7 (= P.P.R.G. 253)
age of which was little uncertain due it is not certain that
does it belong to the Upper Bulawayan Group (age about 2700 Ma)
or to the Lower Bulawayan Group (roughly age 2800 Ma-2900 Ma)
or to the Middle Bulawayan Group. (Please take a look my earlier
writing about their ages due I put those figures from my memory).

Mode=10-20-40, Highest Count=41. No other data available.

40-41 mean solar days / tropical year.



Best Regards,

Hannu Poropudas

Vesaisentie 9E,
90900 Kiiminki
email: hanporop at luukku.com

On Mar 14, 11:38*am, mathematician wrote:
Hi,

I noticed one publication about ancient time data from China:

QU Yuangao, XIE Guwei and GONG Yiming, 2004.
Relationship between Earth-Sun-Moon 1000 Ma ago:
Evidence from the stromatolites.
Chinese Science Bulletin, 2004, Vol. 49, No. 21, 2288-2295.

Writers result which they counted from the stromatolite was:

1000 Ma:
------------

516 +- 20 days/year,

40 days/month (38.5 - 40 days/month in the paper mentioned also),

24* 365.25 / (516 +-20) = 16.99 +-0.66 hours/day

(516 +-20) / 40 = 12.9 +-0.5 months/year

(516 +-20) / 38.5 = 13.4 +-0.5 (this was not mentioned in the text).

My linear extrapolation figures of Pannella's fossil data would give:

1000 Ma:
------------

about 455 days/year,

about 33.6 days/month,

about 19.4 hours/day, ( about 24* 365.2422 / 455 = about 19.3),

about 455 / 33.6 = about 13.5 months/year,

One possible conclusion about writers data:

The stromatolites used in the above reference are not
suitable for ancient time counting, if age determination is
correct and accurate enough ???

When I investigated stromatolites for ancient time counting
I found only few reliable stromatolites for such purposes:

The Gunflint Formation stromatolite YPM-IP-28511/28510
exact age of which was 1878.3 +-1.3 Ma.
Mode= 18 - 36, Highest Count= 39.

36 - 39 mean solar days per tropical year.

Fortnights per tropical year= 28 ( which means
14 synodic months per tropical year).

From these: 504 - 546 mean solar days per tropical year.

and

The Bulawayan stromatolite UCLA-Bul-7 (= P.P.R.G. 253)
age of which was little uncertain due it is not certain that
does it belong to the Upper Bulawayan Group (age about 2700 Ma)
or to the Lower Bulawayan Group (roughly age 2800 Ma-2900 Ma)
or to the Middle Bulawayan Group. (Please take a look my earlier
writing about their ages due I put those figures from my memory).

Mode=10-20-40, Highest Count=41. No other data available.

40-41 mean solar days / tropical year.

Best Regards,

Hannu Poropudas

Vesaisentie 9E,
90900 Kiiminki
email: hanporop at luukku.com

Correcting couple writing errors:

36 - 39 mean solar days per tropical year.

This should be

36-39 mean solar days per synodic month.

40-41 mean solar days / tropical year.

This should be

40 - 41 mean solar days per synodic month.

Hannu

On Mar 14, 11:49*am, mathematician wrote:
On Mar 14, 11:38*am, mathematician wrote:





Hi,

I noticed one publication about ancient time data from China:

QU Yuangao, XIE Guwei and GONG Yiming, 2004.
Relationship between Earth-Sun-Moon 1000 Ma ago:
Evidence from the stromatolites.
Chinese Science Bulletin, 2004, Vol. 49, No. 21, 2288-2295.

Writers result which they counted from the stromatolite was:

1000 Ma:
------------

516 +- 20 days/year,

40 days/month (38.5 - 40 days/month in the paper mentioned also),

24* 365.25 / (516 +-20) = 16.99 +-0.66 hours/day

(516 +-20) / 40 = 12.9 +-0.5 months/year

(516 +-20) / 38.5 = 13.4 +-0.5 (this was not mentioned in the text).

My linear extrapolation figures of Pannella's fossil data would give:

1000 Ma:
------------

about 455 days/year,

about 33.6 days/month,

about 19.4 hours/day, ( about 24* 365.2422 / 455 = about 19.3),

about 455 / 33.6 = about 13.5 months/year,

One possible conclusion about writers data:

The stromatolites used in the above reference are not
suitable for ancient time counting, if age determination is
correct and accurate enough ???

When I investigated stromatolites for ancient time counting
I found only few reliable stromatolites for such purposes:

The Gunflint Formation stromatolite YPM-IP-28511/28510
exact age of which was 1878.3 +-1.3 Ma.
Mode= 18 - 36, Highest Count= 39.

36 - 39 mean solar days per tropical year.

Fortnights per tropical year= 28 ( which means
14 synodic months per tropical year).

From these: 504 - 546 mean solar days per tropical year.

and

The Bulawayan stromatolite UCLA-Bul-7 (= P.P.R.G. 253)
age of which was little uncertain due it is not certain that
does it belong to the Upper Bulawayan Group (age about 2700 Ma)
or to the Lower Bulawayan Group (roughly age 2800 Ma-2900 Ma)
or to the Middle Bulawayan Group. (Please take a look my earlier
writing about their ages due I put those figures from my memory).

Mode=10-20-40, Highest Count=41. No other data available.

40-41 mean solar days / tropical year.

Best Regards,

Hannu Poropudas

Vesaisentie 9E,
90900 Kiiminki
email: hanporop at luukku.com

Correcting couple writing errors:

36 - 39 mean solar days per tropical year.

This should be

36-39 mean solar days per synodic month.

40-41 mean solar days / tropical year.

This should be

40 - 41 mean solar days per synodic month.

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I found those age estimates of the Upper and Lower Bulawayan Groups
which I mentioned my previous article (about age of the Bulawayan
Stromatolite.
UCLA-Bul-7= P.P.R.G.253 in JW Schop's collection).

(These are not LOCAL age determinations from the Huntsmann Quarries
in the Bubi Greenstone Belt whrere the stomatolite was found by
Dr. Kvenvolden)


Age of the Upper Bulawayan Group:

Younger or equal than 2715 +-15 Ma, ZIM-74, Iron Mask Formation.

Older or equal than 2672 +-12 Ma, ZIM-29, "Black Cat Porphyry"
in Harare-Shamva greenstone sequence.

Age of the Lower Bulawayan Group:

Younger or equal than 2904 +-9 Ma, ZIM-92/24, Hokonui Formation.

Older or equal than 2831 +-6 Ma, ZIM-92/32, Koodoovale Formation.

Best Regards,

Hannu Poropudas