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Old March 13th 06, 11:25 PM posted to sci.environment,sci.space.policy,alt.global-warming,sci.geo.geology
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It's official.

Unless something changes soon, we be ****ed.

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What makes it "official," Thomas? Do you have a URL?

I look for such announcements he
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/new/new.html

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Thomas (a "Mass" of excrement called "Tom)--

Humans can survive 800 ppm CO2 easily--in fact most rush hour traffic
has that much C02 I've read.

We're "F'd" if we listen to folks like you and Dodger Crappock, and
stop the growth engine called America.

Roger--what you got against intellectuals? You want me to be like Dan,
an ignorant follower of you?

RL


Roger Coppock wrote:
What makes it "official," Thomas? Do you have a URL?

I look for such announcements he
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/new/new.html


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"raylopez99" wrote in message
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Thomas (a "Mass" of excrement called "Tom)--

Humans can survive 800 ppm CO2 easily--in fact most rush hour traffic
has that much C02 I've read.


It's not CO2 with regards to respiration that's the problem, loopy liar
troll. It's the warming associated with it.

We're "F'd" if we listen to folks like you and Dodger Crappock, and
stop the growth engine called America.

Roger--what you got against intellectuals? You want me to be like Dan,
an ignorant follower of you?

RL


Poor loopy, you've lost all touch with reality.


Roger Coppock wrote:
What makes it "official," Thomas? Do you have a URL?

I look for such announcements he
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/new/new.html




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"Humans can survive 800 ppm CO2 easily--in fact most rush hour traffic
has that much C02 I've read."

Even for you, Ray, that is a very shallow statement.
Hint: "What make us 'human?' Can that survive 800
ppm CO2 easily?

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Roger Coppock wrote:
"Humans can survive 800 ppm CO2 easily--in fact most rush hour traffic
has that much C02 I've read."

Even for you, Ray, that is a very shallow statement.
Hint: "What make us 'human?' Can that survive 800
ppm CO2 easily?


I see your point--nobody wants to go outside only wearing a moonsuit.
But I was simply saying that humans can survive 800 ppm C02. It is
uncomfortable but survivable. Kind of like breathing fumes in a
crowded freeway.

As for toxicity, here is what OSHA says: "OSHA has indicated that the
lowest oxygen concentration for shift-long exposure is 19.5%,
corresponding to a carbon dioxide concentration well above 60 000 ppm
(6%). Carbon dioxide concentration, not oxygen concentration, is
limiting in such circumstances."

Not that I am advocating we go to the limit, but from 381 to 60k is a
ways to still go.

RL

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"raylopez99" wrote in message
oups.com...
Roger Coppock wrote:
"Humans can survive 800 ppm CO2 easily--in fact most rush hour traffic
has that much C02 I've read."

Even for you, Ray, that is a very shallow statement.
Hint: "What make us 'human?' Can that survive 800
ppm CO2 easily?


I see your point--nobody wants to go outside only wearing a moonsuit.
But I was simply saying that humans can survive 800 ppm C02. It is
uncomfortable but survivable. Kind of like breathing fumes in a
crowded freeway.

As for toxicity, here is what OSHA says: "OSHA has indicated that the
lowest oxygen concentration for shift-long exposure is 19.5%,
corresponding to a carbon dioxide concentration well above 60 000 ppm
(6%). Carbon dioxide concentration, not oxygen concentration, is
limiting in such circumstances."

Not that I am advocating we go to the limit, but from 381 to 60k is a
ways to still go.

RL


The earth would likely cook long before it ever got to those concentrations
(60K), so what is your point?

George


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Ray wrote:
"Humans can survive 800 ppm CO2 easily--in fact most rush hour traffic
has that much C02 I've read."



"Roger Coppock" wrote
Even for you, Ray, that is a very shallow statement.
Hint: "What make us 'human?' Can that survive 800
ppm CO2 easily?


The problem is that Ray is human and can survive 800 ppm of CO2 easily.
He bases his assumption that the social infrastructure that keeps him alive
will still be there to support him.



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"Scott Nudds" wrote in message
...
Ray wrote:
"Humans can survive 800 ppm CO2 easily--in fact most rush hour traffic
has that much C02 I've read."



"Roger Coppock" wrote
Even for you, Ray, that is a very shallow statement.
Hint: "What make us 'human?' Can that survive 800
ppm CO2 easily?


The problem is that Ray is human and can survive 800 ppm of CO2 easily.
He bases his assumption that the social infrastructure that keeps him
alive
will still be there to support him.


He also assumes that the environment in which we all live could sustain
such levels. I don't think there is any precedent for that assumption.

George


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Old March 14th 06, 11:11 AM posted to sci.environment,sci.space.policy,alt.global-warming,sci.geo.geology
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In article .com,
"raylopez99" wrote:
Thomas (a "Mass" of excrement called "Tom)--

Humans can survive 800 ppm CO2 easily--in fact most rush hour traffic
has that much C02 I've read.

We're "F'd" if we listen to folks like you and Dodger Crappock, and
stop the growth engine called America.

Roger--what you got against intellectuals? You want me to be like Dan,
an ignorant follower of you?

RL



From Stanford:

"GUIDELINES FOR USE OF CARBON DIOXIDE FOR RODENT EUTHANASIA "

But nobody's claiming we're going to asphixiate from the added CO2.


Roger Coppock wrote:
What makes it "official," Thomas? Do you have a URL?

I look for such announcements he
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/new/new.html


 




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