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Old November 28th 03, 03:53 PM
Morris
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Did you know you can buy land on the moon?

This site claims that there are already over 1,125,000 lunar land owners
from 176 countries around the world. To date more than 300 million acres
have been issued to people from all walks of life here on planet Earth. The
sale of lunar property has been ongoing for 22 years by the Lunar Embassy!

Can this be trusted? It's a pretty good investment but I don't know if it
holds in court.


http://go.jitbot.com/buy-land-on-moon


Morris


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Old November 29th 03, 09:57 PM
Charles Buckley
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Morris wrote:
Did you know you can buy land on the moon?

This site claims that there are already over 1,125,000 lunar land owners
from 176 countries around the world. To date more than 300 million acres
have been issued to people from all walks of life here on planet Earth. The
sale of lunar property has been ongoing for 22 years by the Lunar Embassy!

Can this be trusted? It's a pretty good investment but I don't know if it
holds in court.


http://go.jitbot.com/buy-land-on-moon


Morris





It won't hold.

Off the top of my head, I can think of a heck of a lot of loopholes
in their claims, mainly dealing with how the US enacted the specific
legal requirements to meet the Space Treaty and entered them into the
US Civil Code.

Essentially, the US has no mechanism in place to legally recognize
anything other than the specific hardware launched and no international
convention in place to assure any such land claim being recognized.
In fact, the international treaties and conventions tend to specifically
negate any claims not based on specific hardware and purposes. The US
entered into a number of agreements whereby any claims made are not
exclusive. Other nations have the right of usage as long as it does not
significantly impact the specific purpose of the land in question.

Now, within the US, there are potential avenues of treating lunar land
as property, but none have any legal basis as of this date.

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Old November 30th 03, 07:55 AM
John Beaderstadt
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I was reading in the bathroom when I ran across an item written by
Charles Buckley on Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:57:38
-0700, which said:

Morris wrote:


A hell of a lot of spam. I took a look at the site, and this
"inquiry" uses almost exactly the same language as the site does.
This same post, and at least one other that was similar, has shown up
in sci.astro.amateur and who knows where else.

BTW, the site justifies itself with statements that could be
successfully countered by any reasonably bright high school history
student.

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Old November 30th 03, 06:53 PM
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In article ,
Scott Ferrin wrote:
How many of these Natives have even survived? The US proudly
advertises the time honored policy of "Manifest Destiny", while
chastising other countries for genocide.


There's also that skeleton in the closet of slavery.


It's not like slavery was something only the US thought of. They were
just a bit slower to get rid of it than most of the rest of the world.
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Old November 30th 03, 08:21 PM
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Stuf4 wrote:

I'd say that the bright student sees through the propaganda to realize
that during such transfer of "title", there was no consent by the vast
majority of those who were using the land at the time of "purchase".


And nor was there need to. Just ask 'em... the Native Americans "had no
concept of land ownership," as we're so often told. Consequently, they
were not the owners of the land.


There's a strange irony in the US tradition of "Thanksgiving".
Schoolkids are taught that this is a feast to commemorate how European
settlers celebrated with the Natives.


When in actual fact, it's a celebration of privatization over the
geno-suicidal disaster that is communism.

How many of these Natives have even survived?


More of 'em today than back then.

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Old November 30th 03, 10:48 PM
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Chris Jones wrote:

Scott Lowther writes:

Stuf4 wrote:
There's a strange irony in the US tradition of "Thanksgiving".
Schoolkids are taught that this is a feast to commemorate how European
settlers celebrated with the Natives.


When in actual fact, it's a celebration of privatization over the
geno-suicidal disaster that is communism.


Where DO you get your actual facts?


Here's a good preliminary source:
http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?c...sgivin g+Hoax

If you don't believe it, read Bradford's "Of Plimouth Plantation," and
see what he has to say about how they increased crop production. Here's
a hint: they ahda communal system, and were starving... then swtiched
to privatization, and had plenty.


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Old November 30th 03, 10:52 PM
Scott Lowther
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Henry Spencer wrote:

In article ,
Scott Ferrin wrote:
How many of these Natives have even survived? The US proudly
advertises the time honored policy of "Manifest Destiny", while
chastising other countries for genocide.


There's also that skeleton in the closet of slavery.


It's not like slavery was something only the US thought of. They were
just a bit slower to get rid of it than most of the rest of the world.


Wow... way to be HORRIBLY wrong there, Henry. Slavery remained a common
enoguh state of things until quite recently, and still goes on in many
places.

Unless, of course, you think that "the rest of the world" really only
means European civilization... and even then you're wrong. I'm no math
wiz, but I'm pretty sure 1865 came *before* 1945...


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Old November 30th 03, 11:25 PM
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:52:01 -0500, Chris Jones wrote:

Where DO you get your actual facts? I think they must come to you out
of thin air.


....Only after he's farted, natch.

(Kids, please just killfile CT and be done with him. Thanks!)


OM

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Old December 1st 03, 12:42 AM
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Scott Lowther writes:

Chris Jones wrote:

Scott Lowther writes:

Stuf4 wrote:
There's a strange irony in the US tradition of "Thanksgiving".
Schoolkids are taught that this is a feast to commemorate how European
settlers celebrated with the Natives.

When in actual fact, it's a celebration of privatization over the
geno-suicidal disaster that is communism.


Where DO you get your actual facts?


Here's a good preliminary source:
http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?c...sgivin g+Hoax

If you don't believe it, read Bradford's "Of Plimouth Plantation," and
see what he has to say about how they increased crop production. Here's
a hint: they ahda communal system, and were starving... then swtiched
to privatization, and had plenty.


Scott, Scott, Scott! I need no convincing that the Puritanical
colonists of Plimouth Plantation were loons. Despite living so close to
their disembarkation point, I, and almost all the current inhabitants of
Massachusetts, have almost nothing in common with them besides whichever
laws we choose to share (an ever decreasing, though I will admit not
vanishing, amount).

So, they practiced communism and suffered (of course, they were also
newcomers with strange ideas, which could also account for some
failure). As they grew, they went to a private property system. Both
seem eminently reasonable choices to me. But that's not what we
celebrate at Thanksgiving, it's a harvest feast, and we give thanks we
have enough to make it through the winter, and we also give thanks for
all the other things that bless our lives. I put them in that order
intentionally.

 




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