Got that whatever BC Moon ?

Craig Oldfield verbally sodomised in
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In article J4Erh.163189$hn.32887@edtnps82,
wrote in crayon on my screen...
the moon offers no protection;
from pillocks who top-post and leave a full quote below.

Glad to see you're still contributing your profound statements to Usenet,
Crag.

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"captain." wrote in message
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why do you hate the bad astronomy forum so much? are they mean to you?

I hate BA because BA is BA. Their closed and thereby lest constructive
mindset is clearly worse off than any Old Testament thumping and
singular BIG BANG spewing Jew could ever hope to convert the Pope or
that of a good Muslim into becoming a born-again Jewish faith based
wizard, as they'd each much rather die while taking whomever else along
for their final ride, than compromise by an inch or even a mm. At least
that's what history has on record as being the truth and nothing but the
truth.

Earth w/o moon and w/o Sirius would have been the ultimate Winter
Olympic destination world of our solar system. Every 100,000 some odd
years the added warmth and life giving spectrums of illuminations via
Sirius would have made for a much less icy and otherwise and expedited
life thriving environment, but w/o moon it would not stay that way for
long as our solar system treks itself away from the Sirius star/solar
system and of its massive Oort cloud of icy (Sedna/Pluto like)
proto-moons.

This is still an ongoing work in progress, though badly mainstream
status quo flak damaged, I believe it's our best game in town for
appreciating what our physically dark and nasty moon, that's so
absolutely massive in ratio to its binary partner, has to offer such an
environment that would otherwise have been nearly that of a frosty
monoseason with an extremely modus solar tide and at times icy into the
tropics of Cancer/Capricorn. In other words, Earth w/o moon and w/o
Sirius would have been the ultimate Winter Olympics globe of mostly snow
and ice, that which only the winter sporting humans like us could
appreciate.

Unless you folks don't happen to believe in the regular laws of physics,
in that case I'll share my dyslexic encrypted research which essentially
stipulates that our somewhat recently obtained moon has been the primary
GW culprit, and then of course it's also caused by a little damage to
our somewhat sooty albedo, of what we've accomplished on behalf of
dimming our global environment so that we manage to get more solar
energy into our badly failing environment, and thirdly it's the sun
doing it's usual thing of gradually going postal as it expands unless
something feeds the right sort of fuel into that sucker.

With each orbital applied kgf = 9.80665 joules, the influence upon all
that's Earth by way of our extremely large, massive and nearby orbital
mascon we call our moon is worth 2e20 Joules.

At the very least, some of that orbital/tidal energy gets unavoidably
converted into heat via tidal friction that's directly associated with
our atmosphere, oceans and the internal movements of the Earth itself
that's below our dumbfounded two left feet. That's not to mention the
direct influence upon having transferred thermal energy about our globe
due to the atmospheric and ocean tidal currents.

0.001% of 2e20 j/m2 = 3.91 j/m2, or per surface m3 if you'd care to
think in terms of surface volume, that's in some way or another
distributed upon/within the average surface area of Earth. Obviously
the equator receives the vast majority of that lunar/tidal energy, and
the north/south poles receive the least in direct benefit. I'm
excluding upon the secondary/recoil worth of lunar IR/FIR because it's
still so taboo/nonmdisclosure to even talk about, and otherwise even
though our moon's IR/FIR albedo is fairly high (roughly 0.33~0.5), our
moon's IR/FIR most likely isn't worth 1% of what the gravity/tidal
influence has to offer.

Moon's tidal energy, upon average at 0.001% = 3.91 j/m2

Us humans at one kj/soul = 6.7e12 joules = 13.1 mj/m2

Mother Earth that's getting rid of 40 TJ = 78.25 mj/m2

The 2e20 J as per acting upon the total volume of Earth (excluding our
52e17 kg of atmosphere), with Earth's physical volume being 1.083e21 m3
= 185 mj/m3

At .01% of 2e20 J, isn't the moon actually worthy of 39.1 j/m2 ?
I happen to believe in the regular laws of physics, and in those thermal
dynamics that's derived from good old friction and the unavoidable
transferring of such energy about and within our globe, whereas my best
swag as to our moon's tidal affects upon Earth is leaning closer to if
not a tough greater than 0.01%, therefore we're talking about receiving
a continuous surface environment worth of 39.1 j/m2, and at best our
combined (all inclusive) human influence or environmental impact simply
isn't worth much greater than 10% of that amount (as even that's 298
kj/soul), therefore perhaps humanity isn't at best worth but 1% of the
total GW package.

So, you folks can cry all you want about whatever humanity did or didn't
do to mother Earth, and lo and behold global warming will unavoidably
continue w/o our help, though merely at a slightly reduced rate, and
that's even if each and every fossil consuming or even yellowcake energy
sucking and unavoidably soot and toxic chemical polluting soul upon this
planet were removed. Sorry about that.
-
Brad Guth


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Yeah sure, but what about Venus? We are all here to learn about Venus.

BTW...they really screwed Pluto, didn' they?


"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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"captain." wrote in message
news:6Y0sh.147042$rv4.99026@edtnps90

why do you hate the bad astronomy forum so much? are they mean to you?

I hate BA because BA is BA. Their closed and thereby lest constructive
mindset is clearly worse off than any Old Testament thumping and
singular BIG BANG spewing Jew could ever hope to convert the Pope or
that of a good Muslim into becoming a born-again Jewish faith based
wizard, as they'd each much rather die while taking whomever else along
for their final ride, than compromise by an inch or even a mm. At least
that's what history has on record as being the truth and nothing but the
truth.

Earth w/o moon and w/o Sirius would have been the ultimate Winter
Olympic destination world of our solar system. Every 100,000 some odd
years the added warmth and life giving spectrums of illuminations via
Sirius would have made for a much less icy and otherwise and expedited
life thriving environment, but w/o moon it would not stay that way for
long as our solar system treks itself away from the Sirius star/solar
system and of its massive Oort cloud of icy (Sedna/Pluto like)
proto-moons.

This is still an ongoing work in progress, though badly mainstream
status quo flak damaged, I believe it's our best game in town for
appreciating what our physically dark and nasty moon, that's so
absolutely massive in ratio to its binary partner, has to offer such an
environment that would otherwise have been nearly that of a frosty
monoseason with an extremely modus solar tide and at times icy into the
tropics of Cancer/Capricorn. In other words, Earth w/o moon and w/o
Sirius would have been the ultimate Winter Olympics globe of mostly snow
and ice, that which only the winter sporting humans like us could
appreciate.

Unless you folks don't happen to believe in the regular laws of physics,
in that case I'll share my dyslexic encrypted research which essentially
stipulates that our somewhat recently obtained moon has been the primary
GW culprit, and then of course it's also caused by a little damage to
our somewhat sooty albedo, of what we've accomplished on behalf of
dimming our global environment so that we manage to get more solar
energy into our badly failing environment, and thirdly it's the sun
doing it's usual thing of gradually going postal as it expands unless
something feeds the right sort of fuel into that sucker.

With each orbital applied kgf = 9.80665 joules, the influence upon all
that's Earth by way of our extremely large, massive and nearby orbital
mascon we call our moon is worth 2e20 Joules.

At the very least, some of that orbital/tidal energy gets unavoidably
converted into heat via tidal friction that's directly associated with
our atmosphere, oceans and the internal movements of the Earth itself
that's below our dumbfounded two left feet. That's not to mention the
direct influence upon having transferred thermal energy about our globe
due to the atmospheric and ocean tidal currents.

0.001% of 2e20 j/m2 = 3.91 j/m2, or per surface m3 if you'd care to
think in terms of surface volume, that's in some way or another
distributed upon/within the average surface area of Earth. Obviously
the equator receives the vast majority of that lunar/tidal energy, and
the north/south poles receive the least in direct benefit. I'm
excluding upon the secondary/recoil worth of lunar IR/FIR because it's
still so taboo/nonmdisclosure to even talk about, and otherwise even
though our moon's IR/FIR albedo is fairly high (roughly 0.33~0.5), our
moon's IR/FIR most likely isn't worth 1% of what the gravity/tidal
influence has to offer.

Moon's tidal energy, upon average at 0.001% = 3.91 j/m2

Us humans at one kj/soul = 6.7e12 joules = 13.1 mj/m2

Mother Earth that's getting rid of 40 TJ = 78.25 mj/m2

The 2e20 J as per acting upon the total volume of Earth (excluding our
52e17 kg of atmosphere), with Earth's physical volume being 1.083e21 m3
= 185 mj/m3

At .01% of 2e20 J, isn't the moon actually worthy of 39.1 j/m2 ?
I happen to believe in the regular laws of physics, and in those thermal
dynamics that's derived from good old friction and the unavoidable
transferring of such energy about and within our globe, whereas my best
swag as to our moon's tidal affects upon Earth is leaning closer to if
not a tough greater than 0.01%, therefore we're talking about receiving
a continuous surface environment worth of 39.1 j/m2, and at best our
combined (all inclusive) human influence or environmental impact simply
isn't worth much greater than 10% of that amount (as even that's 298
kj/soul), therefore perhaps humanity isn't at best worth but 1% of the
total GW package.

So, you folks can cry all you want about whatever humanity did or didn't
do to mother Earth, and lo and behold global warming will unavoidably
continue w/o our help, though merely at a slightly reduced rate, and
that's even if each and every fossil consuming or even yellowcake energy
sucking and unavoidably soot and toxic chemical polluting soul upon this
planet were removed. Sorry about that.
-
Brad Guth


--
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"Blame It On Rio !" wrote in
message

Yeah sure, but what about Venus? We are all here to learn about Venus.

BTW...they really screwed Pluto, didn' they?

OK, Venus it is, and yes Pluto got the royal shaft, as seemingly Ceres
is getting a similar official NASA fid.

While roasting our weiners on Venus, how much energy do you suppose a
good air conditioning system as part of your CO2--CO/O2 process is
going to demand?

Remember, at that sort of pressure you'll not require more than a 1% O2
factor, and the remainder should be of H2. Thus 99% H2 and 1% O2. Also
remember that you'll be fighting off the lesser gravity of being 90.5%
and otherwise having all of that pesky 64+ kg/m3 of buoyancy to fend
off. Of course, if you only had half a village idiot brain, as such you
might utilize such factors as to your benefit.

Say per 1000 m3/(interior 10 x 20 x 5 meter abode) if that Venusian
habitat volume were insulated at R-1024/meter?

Is there something otherwise specific that you'd like to review, such as
on behalf of those nifty composite rigid airships?

How about we review on behalf of defending yourself from those
exoskeletal Cathars that can't seem to take no for an answer?
-
Brad Guth


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"Blame It On Rio !" wrote in
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Yeah sure, but what about Venus? We are all here to learn about Venus.

When is Russia going back to Venus?

How about a Russian VL2/(Venus L2) platform and way better than TRACE
replacement?

How about establishing a Russian POOF at VL2? Or, is that too cool for
a POOF to deal with?
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"Blame It On Rio !" wrote in
message

OK, our moon sucks and Venus it is, and yes Pluto got the royal shaft,
as seemingly Ceres is getting a similar official NASA fid.

While roasting our weiners on Venus, how much energy do you suppose a
good air conditioning system as part of your CO2--CO/O2 process is
going to demand?

Remember, at that sort of pressure you'll not require more than a 1% O2
factor, and the remainder should be of H2. Thus 99% H2 and 1% O2. Also
remember that you'll be continually fighting off the lesser gravity of
90.5%, and otherwise having all of that pesky 64+ kg/m3 of buoyancy to
fend off. Of course, if you only had half a village idiot brain, as
such you might utilize such factors as to your benefit.

Say per 1000 m3/(interior 10 x 20 x 5 meter abode) if that Venusian
habitat volume were insulated at R-1024/m2; what's the thermal budget
of keeping your cache of beer and vodka icy cold?

That's roughly a surface/foundation area of 264 m2, a portion of what
should be roughly a 828 m2 exterior that's exposed to the hotter than
hell surface that's getting rid of 20 J/m2, and otherwise fending off
the somewhat toasty atmosphere. Therefore it's nearly always hot
outside and there's just the structual composite insulated barrier of
R-1024/m that's giving way to an inward flux of thermal conduction
that's worth 0.00097656/m2 to deal with, which seems rather managable,
if not a touch overkill.

Is there something otherwise specific that you'd like to review or
contribute, such as on behalf of those nifty composite rigid airships?

How about we review on behalf of defending yourself from those
exoskeletal Cathars that can't seem to take no for an answer?

Would you like to talk about the VL2 platform/depot or how about
interplanetary communications?
-
Brad Guth


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"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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"Blame It On Rio !" wrote in
message

Yeah sure, but what about Venus? We are all here to learn about Venus.

When is Russia going back to Venus?


Will they be taking all the Russians with them?

"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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"Blame It On Rio !" wrote in
message

OK, our moon sucks and Venus it is, and yes Pluto got the royal shaft,
as seemingly Ceres is getting a similar official NASA fid.

While roasting our weiners on Venus, how much energy do you suppose a
good air conditioning system as part of your CO2--CO/O2 process is
going to demand?


You might as well roast your wiener on Venus. I doubt you use it for much
else.

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"captain." wrote in message
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why do you hate the bad astronomy forum so much? are they mean to you?

Why do you like the Third Reich status quo of infomercial spewing along
with whatever emerges from between the butt-cheeks of NASA?


not quite sure what you mean.

Doesn't the truth have any meaning whatsoever in your NASA/Apollo koran?
(obviously not)


no idea what you're talking about.


Would you like to talk about the planetology of Earth, of our fairly
recent moon or perhaps focus upon Venus?


none of the above if you're interested to know. i prefer more distant
things.


Would you like to talk about and thus share ideas and to review the
benefits as to utilizing our MEL1/(moon L1), or not?


i think it's a good idea in theory but like the moon and venus, you tend to
go on and on about it until it gets to the point where i feel like skipping
most of the post because i've already read it before.

Would you much rather talk about ways of starting up and somehow
surviving WW-III?
-

nope.

Brad Guth


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"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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"captain." wrote in message
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why do you hate the bad astronomy forum so much? are they mean to you?

I hate BA because BA is BA. Their closed and thereby lest constructive
mindset is clearly worse off than any Old Testament thumping and
singular BIG BANG spewing Jew could ever hope to convert the Pope or
that of a good Muslim into becoming a born-again Jewish faith based
wizard, as they'd each much rather die while taking whomever else along
for their final ride, than compromise by an inch or even a mm. At least
that's what history has on record as being the truth and nothing but the
truth.


i've always found them to be most helpful and friendly. some of them have
many years past research careers to back them up.


Earth w/o moon and w/o Sirius would have been the ultimate Winter
Olympic destination world of our solar system. Every 100,000 some odd
years the added warmth and life giving spectrums of illuminations via
Sirius would have made for a much less icy and otherwise and expedited
life thriving environment, but w/o moon it would not stay that way for
long as our solar system treks itself away from the Sirius star/solar
system and of its massive Oort cloud of icy (Sedna/Pluto like)
proto-moons.


what do you think have been the effects of the occasional brown/white dwarf
that has passed through the outermost layers of the oort cloud on the
climate of the earth over time (if any besides more craters) ?


This is still an ongoing work in progress, though badly mainstream
status quo flak damaged, I believe it's our best game in town for
appreciating what our physically dark and nasty moon, that's so
absolutely massive in ratio to its binary partner, has to offer such an
environment that would otherwise have been nearly that of a frosty
monoseason with an extremely modus solar tide and at times icy into the
tropics of Cancer/Capricorn. In other words, Earth w/o moon and w/o
Sirius would have been the ultimate Winter Olympics globe of mostly snow
and ice, that which only the winter sporting humans like us could
appreciate.


i'll grant you that it's a possibility but only a possibility.


Unless you folks don't happen to believe in the regular laws of physics,
in that case I'll share my dyslexic encrypted research which essentially
stipulates that our somewhat recently obtained moon has been the primary
GW culprit, and then of course it's also caused by a little damage to
our somewhat sooty albedo, of what we've accomplished on behalf of
dimming our global environment so that we manage to get more solar
energy into our badly failing environment, and thirdly it's the sun
doing it's usual thing of gradually going postal as it expands unless
something feeds the right sort of fuel into that sucker.

With each orbital applied kgf = 9.80665 joules, the influence upon all
that's Earth by way of our extremely large, massive and nearby orbital
mascon we call our moon is worth 2e20 Joules.

At the very least, some of that orbital/tidal energy gets unavoidably
converted into heat via tidal friction that's directly associated with
our atmosphere, oceans and the internal movements of the Earth itself
that's below our dumbfounded two left feet. That's not to mention the
direct influence upon having transferred thermal energy about our globe
due to the atmospheric and ocean tidal currents.

0.001% of 2e20 j/m2 = 3.91 j/m2, or per surface m3 if you'd care to
think in terms of surface volume, that's in some way or another
distributed upon/within the average surface area of Earth. Obviously
the equator receives the vast majority of that lunar/tidal energy, and
the north/south poles receive the least in direct benefit. I'm
excluding upon the secondary/recoil worth of lunar IR/FIR because it's
still so taboo/nonmdisclosure to even talk about, and otherwise even
though our moon's IR/FIR albedo is fairly high (roughly 0.33~0.5), our
moon's IR/FIR most likely isn't worth 1% of what the gravity/tidal
influence has to offer.

Moon's tidal energy, upon average at 0.001% = 3.91 j/m2

Us humans at one kj/soul = 6.7e12 joules = 13.1 mj/m2

Mother Earth that's getting rid of 40 TJ = 78.25 mj/m2

The 2e20 J as per acting upon the total volume of Earth (excluding our
52e17 kg of atmosphere), with Earth's physical volume being 1.083e21 m3
= 185 mj/m3

At .01% of 2e20 J, isn't the moon actually worthy of 39.1 j/m2 ?
I happen to believe in the regular laws of physics, and in those thermal
dynamics that's derived from good old friction and the unavoidable
transferring of such energy about and within our globe, whereas my best
swag as to our moon's tidal affects upon Earth is leaning closer to if
not a tough greater than 0.01%, therefore we're talking about receiving
a continuous surface environment worth of 39.1 j/m2, and at best our
combined (all inclusive) human influence or environmental impact simply
isn't worth much greater than 10% of that amount (as even that's 298
kj/soul), therefore perhaps humanity isn't at best worth but 1% of the
total GW package.

So, you folks can cry all you want about whatever humanity did or didn't
do to mother Earth, and lo and behold global warming will unavoidably
continue w/o our help, though merely at a slightly reduced rate, and
that's even if each and every fossil consuming or even yellowcake energy
sucking and unavoidably soot and toxic chemical polluting soul upon this
planet were removed. Sorry about that.
-
Brad Guth


i don't support the above theory. sorry. it doesn't mean i don't like your
motivation though.