Flat Earther and AGW Denier to head nasa into obscurity.

On 25/04/2018 11:58, Gary Harnagel wrote:
On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 10:25:45 PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:35:39 -0700 (PDT), Gary Harnagel
wrote:

I base my beliefs on evidence.

You have NO evidence for atheism.

Atheism isn't a belief.

Of COURSE it is.

It is a claim that the precise number of deities in the universe is
known to be exactly Zero.

It doesn't require evidence. It's simply the
default position when there's no evidence for any deities. Which, of
course, there is not.

Of COURSE there is evidence. You just refuse to accept it.

When did you last see a miracle performed then? Or do you apply double
standards to your religious "evidence" and to scientific evidence.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On 25/04/2018 12:12, Gary Harnagel wrote:
On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 1:49:59 AM UTC-6, Martin Brown wrote:

However, thin high cirrus cloud barely makes a dent in the insolation
perhaps reflecting 10% of the incoming solar radiation

10% is a BIG effect.

but it is
optically dense in the thermal IR band so it slows down escaping heat
making it warmer at ground level both day and night.

Don't take my word for it:

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Clouds/

https://www.earthobservatory.nasa.go...ds/clouds3.php

Read the URL 10% less sunlight getting in but 90% less thermal band IR
is getting out when there is thin high cirrus acting as a barrier to the
outgoing thermal radiation. It is optically dense in thermal IR but
relatively transparent to incoming visible light. Result is warming
during daytime *and* night time compared to a clear sky.

It is the same principle as the thermal radiation barrier in cryogenics.
Placing an isolated mirror midway between the ultracold chamber and the
outside world has the effect of greatly decreasing radiative flux.

Still, if there is less insolation, the result is lower temperature in
the long run. Unless you are thinking of clouds preventing earth's
internal heat from escaping? :-)

You don't understand science.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Chris L Peterson wrote in
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:35:39 -0700 (PDT), Gary Harnagel
wrote:

I base my beliefs on evidence.

You have NO evidence for atheism.

Atheism isn't a belief.

In your case, it's such a blind, irrational belief that you're
incapable of seeing that it is a belief.

This is because you are stuipd.

It doesn't require evidence. It's simply
the default position when there's no evidence for any deities.
Which, of course, there is not.

That is not atheism. That is agnosticism. Many atheists (at least,
the ones - like you - so insecure in their belief that they have to
constantly reinforce it by screaming it loudly to the internet) try
to feel they are less a bunch of freaks by inflating their numbers by
way of trying to redefine agnosticism (which is an order of magnitude
more common) as atheism (which is pretty rare, and rather freakish).

And absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.

You do not know what science is. And are too stupid to learn.

--
Terry Austin

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"Chris.B" wrote in
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On Wednesday, 25 April 2018 06:25:45 UTC+2, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:35:39 -0700 (PDT), Gary Harnagel
wrote:

I base my beliefs on evidence.

You have NO evidence for atheism.

Atheism isn't a belief. It doesn't require evidence. It's
simply the default position when there's no evidence for any
deities. Which, of course, there is not.

You seem to be trying to have a logical discussion with a
self-confessed sucker.

It is a 'tard fight, isn't it?

--
Terry Austin

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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

Paul Schlyter wrote in
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:25:43 -0600, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:35:39 -0700 (PDT), Gary Harnagel
wrote:

I base my beliefs on evidence.

You have NO evidence for atheism.

Atheism isn't a belief. It doesn't require evidence. It's
simply the default position when there's no evidence for any
deities. Which, of course, there is not.

You are confusing atheism with agnosticism...

On purpose. Makes him feel less like a freak.

--
Terry Austin

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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

Chris L Peterson wrote in
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 12:27:10 +0200, Paul Schlyter
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:25:43 -0600, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:35:39 -0700 (PDT), Gary Harnagel
wrote:

I base my beliefs on evidence.

You have NO evidence for atheism.

Atheism isn't a belief. It doesn't require evidence. It's
simply the default position when there's no evidence for any
deities. Which, of course, there is not.

You are confusing atheism with agnosticism...

I certainly am not.

You certainly are.

Atheism is a lack of belief in deities.

Not in common usage. Only among freaks like you, who are too insecure
in their beliefs to accept they are freaks.

This is because you are stupid.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

Martin Brown wrote in
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On 25/04/2018 11:58, Gary Harnagel wrote:
On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 10:25:45 PM UTC-6, Chris L
Peterson wrote:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:35:39 -0700 (PDT), Gary Harnagel
wrote:

I base my beliefs on evidence.

You have NO evidence for atheism.

Atheism isn't a belief.

Of COURSE it is.

It is a claim that the precise number of deities in the universe
is known to be exactly Zero.

Which is, _by definition_, unprovable. Ergo, a statement of faith.
Pure belief.


It doesn't require evidence. It's simply the
default position when there's no evidence for any deities.
Which, of course, there is not.

Of COURSE there is evidence. You just refuse to accept it.

When did you last see a miracle performed then? Or do you apply
double standards to your religious "evidence" and to scientific
evidence.

I know a guy who was cured of an incurable disease by the laying on
of hands by a Catholic priest. Miracle? Spontaneous remission?
Misdiagnosis? Some unique combination of factors that actually
cured it, unknown to science? Could be any of them. There's no
evidence to support any of them.

And you're a ****ing moron if you believe otherwise. (And we both
know you do.)

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:55:26 +0100, Martin Brown
wrote:

On 25/04/2018 11:58, Gary Harnagel wrote:
On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 10:25:45 PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:35:39 -0700 (PDT), Gary Harnagel
wrote:

I base my beliefs on evidence.

You have NO evidence for atheism.

Atheism isn't a belief.

Of COURSE it is.

It is a claim that the precise number of deities in the universe is
known to be exactly Zero.

It is seldom that. I don't actually know any atheists who make that
claim, and I certainly don't. It almost always means a lack of belief
in deities, not a claim that there are none. Atheism makes no claims
at all.

I don't know that there are zero deities in the Universe. What I know
is that there is zero evidence for any, and there is nothing we
observe that is better explained by a deity than by other mechanisms,
so I quite rationally lack any belief in them. If evidence shows up,
I'll re-evaluate my beliefs.

I can assert that _specific_ gods, such as the Abrahamic one, don't
exist, given internal logical inconsistencies or clear evidence of the
way they were invented from earlier gods. I can't think of a way to
disprove a deistic creator that doesn't interfere with the Universe.
But since there's no reason to assume one, I don't.

Chris L Peterson wrote in
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:55:26 +0100, Martin Brown
wrote:

On 25/04/2018 11:58, Gary Harnagel wrote:
On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 10:25:45 PM UTC-6, Chris L
Peterson wrote:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:35:39 -0700 (PDT), Gary Harnagel
wrote:

I base my beliefs on evidence.

You have NO evidence for atheism.

Atheism isn't a belief.

Of COURSE it is.

It is a claim that the precise number of deities in the universe
is known to be exactly Zero.

It is seldom that. I don't actually know any atheists who make
that claim, and I certainly don't. It almost always means a lack
of belief in deities, not a claim that there are none. Atheism
makes no claims at all.

Not common usage. If you insiste on redefining words, you need to
make that clear or you'll look stupid.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:32:08 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
wrote:

It is seldom that. I don't actually know any atheists who make
that claim, and I certainly don't. It almost always means a lack
of belief in deities, not a claim that there are none. Atheism
makes no claims at all.

Not common usage. If you insiste on redefining words, you need to
make that clear or you'll look stupid.

This is BY FAR the most common usage.